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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby Johno6 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:49 pm

The cricket app had Hastings tweet up. Now all of a sudden it's gone lol
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby Pup » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:55 pm

Johno6 wrote:The cricket app had Hastings tweet up. Now all of a sudden it's gone lol


What a farce that was.

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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby RustyCage » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:34 am

Johno6 wrote:The cricket app had Hastings tweet up. Now all of a sudden it's gone lol


It says a lot when everyone whose tweet I posted is either a current player or has a current coaching role, and none had any idea what's going on.
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby Media Park » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:46 am

Boof tom cooper and dean jones all tweeted about it to.
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby Jim05 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:10 am

And they wonder why people think this comp is a farce, what a disgrace.
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby Media Park » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:47 am

So the official reply is that the duckworth lewis total was 5, so at 0/29 they bowled one ball more and it was over.
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby CoverKing » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:59 am

makes sense to me IMO.

5 overs to constitue a game. the game got reduced to 5 overs.

Stars had a revised total of 6. Therefore they needed to face one more ball so the game restarted, as they were 0/29 they were ahead of the revised target. Game finished
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby saintal » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:07 am

CoverKing wrote:makes sense to me IMO.

5 overs to constitue a game. the game got reduced to 5 overs.

Stars had a revised total of 6. Therefore they needed to face one more ball so the game restarted, as they were 0/29 they were ahead of the revised target. Game finished


But the stars only faced 13 balls, did they not? Or is the rule a min of 5 overs across two innings, rather than min of 5 overs per innings?

I'm with Jim and co. Farcical sport/comp.
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby CoverKing » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:10 am

So if you bowl a side out for 30, and you chase the runs down in less than 5 overs, you keep going until you bat for 5 overs so it constitutes a game?

I don't see what the problems are with this result. each to their own though
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby saintal » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:15 am

CoverKing wrote:So if you bowl a side out for 30, and you chase the runs down in less than 5 overs, you keep going until you bat for 5 overs so it constitutes a game?

I don't see what the problems are with this result. each to their own though


That is clearly a different scenario.
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby Ecky » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:16 am

CoverKing wrote:So if you bowl a side out for 30, and you chase the runs down in less than 5 overs, you keep going until you bat for 5 overs so it constitutes a game?

I don't see what the problems are with this result. each to their own though

Agree with you Coverking, if you follow it through logically, it all makes sense.
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby heater31 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:25 am

Yet another reason why this BBL is a crock of shite....
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby RustyCage » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:28 am

CoverKing wrote:So if you bowl a side out for 30, and you chase the runs down in less than 5 overs, you keep going until you bat for 5 overs so it constitutes a game?

I don't see what the problems are with this result. each to their own though


No, it constitutes a game for having one team pass the other teams score. The 5 over thing only comes into play with innings that can't be completed.
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby CoverKing » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:49 am

Yes but then a team passed the score even though its within 5 overs. No confusion here
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby RustyCage » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:06 pm

CoverKing wrote:Yes but then a team passed the score even though its within 5 overs. No confusion here


no, because there is no score, just a moving Duckworth/Lewis target that comes in to play at the 5 over mark. They weren't chasing 20 off a maximum 2.1 overs or whatever the score they needed to get then was.
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby Trader » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:18 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
CoverKing wrote:So if you bowl a side out for 30, and you chase the runs down in less than 5 overs, you keep going until you bat for 5 overs so it constitutes a game?

I don't see what the problems are with this result. each to their own though


No, it constitutes a game for having one team pass the other teams score. The 5 over thing only comes into play with innings that can't be completed.


While I tend to agree with this, it doesn't make sense that they then had to face a ball, if they were past the revised total, they had won already, so why bowl a ball?
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby RustyCage » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:20 pm

Trader wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:
CoverKing wrote:So if you bowl a side out for 30, and you chase the runs down in less than 5 overs, you keep going until you bat for 5 overs so it constitutes a game?

I don't see what the problems are with this result. each to their own though


No, it constitutes a game for having one team pass the other teams score. The 5 over thing only comes into play with innings that can't be completed.


While I tend to agree with this, it doesn't make sense that they then had to face a ball, if they were past the revised total, they had won already, so why bowl a ball?


that part was very strange
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby CoverKing » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:36 pm

Because the target wasn't 6 at the 2 over mark when they went off with rain. The target was revised during the rain break. So once they came out and faced one ball, the game was back on, the target was reached and the game was finished with 2.1 overs bowled
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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby Coach Bombay » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:53 pm

makes perfect sense.

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Re: BBL 2012/13

Postby MAY-Z » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:13 pm

CoverKing wrote:Because the target wasn't 6 at the 2 over mark when they went off with rain. The target was revised during the rain break. So once they came out and faced one ball, the game was back on, the target was reached and the game was finished with 2.1 overs bowled


that isnt correct at all though - duckworth lewis is always calculating, they dont wait for a rain delay and then get thier calculators out.

if the stars had faced 6 overs, and not yet got to the full target they wouldnt have come back on to make the game 6.1 overs.

what makes this idea of them reaching the target absolute nonsense is that the duckowrth lewis changes on each wicket, so if the stars where infront by only 1 or 2 runs at the end of the 2 over mark, then had to play this extra ball and lost a wicket they may have been behind duckworth lewis

farcical situation where you need to play the whole game (or what constitutes a game) to get the right(ish) result.

the only reason it was played out like it was, was becuase the stars had been so dominant, if the scorchers had made 150 you can guarantee that the game wouldve been called off after 2 overs and the points wouldve been shared
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