Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby Jim05 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:53 pm

stampy wrote:how often is a former captain in the side?

Happens a fair bit on the sub continent.
Pretty sure Pakistan had 4 or more on same side.
Not sure about India but I seem to recall Azharuddin, Tendulkar and Kumble all had stints as captain but then played under Ganguly. I think Dravid captained in that mix for a while aswell
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby Pup » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:01 pm

So where are all the Clarke Haters?

Another hundred as captain this time a big big one, Came to the crease at 3 for not many and worked hard and then cashed in. Quality player who just keeps proving people wrong, Keep the critics coming.

I dont think he gave a chance today either Dedja.

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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby am Bays » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:02 pm

mal wrote:Locky , Im tipping never



RT Ponting 206 and AC Gilchrist 113no Sydney 2005, Ponting replaced Gilchrist for the 4th test in India in 2004 as captain*

* Gilchrist was captain because Ponting's broken finger kept him out of the team for the first three tests
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby locky801 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:09 pm

am Bays wrote:
mal wrote:Locky , Im tipping never



RT Ponting 206 and AC Gilchrist 113no Sydney 2005, Ponting replaced Gilchrist for the 4th test in India in 2004 as captain*

* Gilchrist was captain because Ponting's broken finger kept him out of the team for the first three tests


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Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby Turbo » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:14 pm

Pup wrote:So where are all the Clarke Haters?

Another hundred as captain this time a big big one, Came to the crease at 3 for not many and worked hard and then cashed in. Quality player who just keeps proving people wrong, Keep the critics coming.

I dont think he gave a chance today either Dedja.

Brilliantly batted Pup.


Totally agree. One of the best innings we will see and a record breaker for Australians at the scg and maybe overall at the scg
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby Jim05 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:17 pm

Pup wrote:So where are all the Clarke Haters?

Another hundred as captain this time a big big one, Came to the crease at 3 for not many and worked hard and then cashed in. Quality player who just keeps proving people wrong, Keep the critics coming.

I dont think he gave a chance today either Dedja.

Brilliantly batted Pup.

Batted superbly.
Gave one chance for memory.
Sharma dropped a caught and bowled chance, reckon he was about 170 at the time
One of the best innings ive seen for a while, reckon he is a huge chance for 400 tomorrow if he can see off the first hour.
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby dedja » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:47 pm

Pup wrote:So where are all the Clarke Haters?

Another hundred as captain this time a big big one, Came to the crease at 3 for not many and worked hard and then cashed in. Quality player who just keeps proving people wrong, Keep the critics coming.

I dont think he gave a chance today either Dedja.

Brilliantly batted Pup.


Get you facts right ... he was dropped on 182.
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby Media Park » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:48 pm

The scary thing for this Clarke innings is that we have only completed Day Two, and Australia have a 291 run lead.
With Hussey in touch, and hoping Brad Haddin can do something reasonable, there is no pressure on Australia to declare at all tomorrow (although they likely will).
Clarke could be past 300 by this time.
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby Trader » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:16 pm

CoverKing wrote:
Trader wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Need to pull a stump out if the bails are already off dont you?


correct brodlach

and the chance of a run out in that instance was zilch as no fielder went to the stumps :lol: :lol:


If the throw is hard enough and knocks the stump out of the ground then that's out.


Lol that a joke?


Nope, I haven't bothered to check, but my understanding is the law is something along the lines of if the stumps are already broken then a stump must be removed from the round via contact from the ball. Obviously this is normally completed by holding the ball against the stump, but if you hit it with enough force, you can knock it out of the ground.
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby mal » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:25 pm

It was one of those rare days
No one haddago at certain Australian players during todays play
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Haddin
Not one of these guys failed today, or copped the wrath of the critics

As For Clarke this time recently vrs England he was roasted after a soft disMissAL in the Adelaide Oval Test
Then the roasters started on him in the ODI series vrs England as well
The detractors delighted in MALigning a fine Australian cricketer

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ITS OK TO HAVAGO AT A PLAYER WHEN HE IS UNDERPERFORMING
I CAN ACCEPT THAT IF AN ESTABLISHED PLAYER IS PLAYING BELOW HIS BEST HE WILL BE ROASTED
WHAT I CANT ACCEPT IS THE SLEDGERS WHO THEN WONT ACKNOWLEDGE THESE GUYS WHEN THEY DO PERFORM
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This was happening B4 today
He took over a team perceived to be on the slide
His batsman have underperformed as a rule
His bowling attack has been decimated with injuries, including Watto his star cricketer
His keeper is on a downward spiral as a cricketer
His captaincy has been immaculate in the whole
Despite the worries of captaincy, he has managed to be the best batsman in the team


This innings , which will go into a 3rd days batting for him, surely has earnt the respect of even his most ardent critics
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby smac » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:47 pm

Trader wrote:Nope, I haven't bothered to check, but my understanding is the law is something along the lines of if the stumps are already broken then a stump must be removed from the round via contact from the ball. Obviously this is normally completed by holding the ball against the stump, but if you hit it with enough force, you can knock it out of the ground.

That is correct.

The relevant Law:
Law 28 (The wicket is down)

1. Wicket put down
(a) The wicket is put down if a bail is completely removed from the top of the stumps, or a stump is struck out of the ground,
(i) by the ball,

There is no necessity for someone to hold the stump and remove it from the ground, it is just much more likely to happen that way.
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby valleys07 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:18 pm

mal wrote:ITS OK TO HAVAGO AT A PLAYER WHEN HE IS UNDERPERFORMING
I CAN ACCEPT THAT IF AN ESTABLISHED PLAYER IS PLAYING BELOW HIS BEST HE WILL BE ROASTED
WHAT I CANT ACCEPT IS THE SLEDGERS WHO THEN WONT ACKNOWLEDGE THESE GUYS WHEN THEY DO PERFORM


Well said Mal.

I have given clarke a bit of stick (not necessarily on here) as its obvious the bloke has a sh*tload of talent. Today was bloody nice to see him and punter get reward for what one would assume to be some pretty hard work behind the scenes.

As for the position of the game, pup should have a crack at Lara's record, why not? 3 days left of play and plenty of artillery in the shed, no reson why we cant reach 800 and look at declaring late day 3 / early day 4.

Been a few years since australian cricket has seen such a dominant display in the first 2 days and hopefully this is the sign of things to come in preparation for the ashes. Come on Australia!!!!
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby dedja » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:21 pm

stop shouting mal ...
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:45 pm

What a performance from Punter, Hussey and especially Pup. And to think this idiot wanted to pension the Huss and Punter off. Fantastic batting today and India were beaten from ball three today I haven't seen anything quite like it. I guess that is what Steve Waugh would term 'mental disintegration'. I reckon Pup goes by Mark Waugh today with that knock. MEW is the more talented player and Pup had a bit of Junior about him, or at least that is the way it seemed. However, now that Clarke has unleashed this mammoth knock I believe the grit he has shown today takes over from MEW's skill advantage. Pup played a knock today that we all wanted to see from Junior but it never came.

Well done Pup and all the boys. GEAR. =D>

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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:05 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:What a performance from Punter, Hussey and especially Pup. And to think this idiot wanted to pension the Huss and Punter off. Fantastic batting today and India were beaten from ball three today I haven't seen anything quite like it. I guess that is what Steve Waugh would term 'mental disintegration'. I reckon Pup goes by Mark Waugh today with that knock. MEW is the more talented player and Pup had a bit of Junior about him, or at least that is the way it seemed. However, now that Clarke has unleashed this mammoth knock I believe the grit he has shown today takes over from MEW's skill advantage. Pup played a knock today that we all wanted to see from Junior but it never came.

Well done Pup and all the boys. GEAR. =D>

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never been a clarke fan. but today was excellent... great captains knock...

However i reckon MEW is the better cricketer...

Also fantastic knock by ponting... been probably the most consitant batter in the aussie side this summer and was rewarded with a ton today...
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:06 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:What a performance from Punter, Hussey and especially Pup. And to think this idiot wanted to pension the Huss and Punter off. Fantastic batting today and India were beaten from ball three today I haven't seen anything quite like it. I guess that is what Steve Waugh would term 'mental disintegration'. I reckon Pup goes by Mark Waugh today with that knock. MEW is the more talented player and Pup had a bit of Junior about him, or at least that is the way it seemed. However, now that Clarke has unleashed this mammoth knock I believe the grit he has shown today takes over from MEW's skill advantage. Pup played a knock today that we all wanted to see from Junior but it never came.

Well done Pup and all the boys. GEAR. =D>

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never been a clarke fan. but today was excellent... great captains knock...

However i reckon MEW is the better cricketer...

Also fantastic knock by ponting... been probably the most consitant batter in the aussie side this summer and was rewarded with a ton today...


More talented perhaps, but not the better cricketer IMO.

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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby dedja » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:09 pm

Surely the BCCI will dream up an excuse to pull out of the tour now?

Meanwhile, back in Bollywood, they're getting the effigies of Duncan Fletcher and boxes of redheads at the ready ...
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:52 pm

I certainly see were you're coming from reb, but I reckon junior played against better sides. Also mark is a better all round cricketer IMO. Was a good medium pace bowler before taking up off spin, and mark is probably one of the best slip fielders off all time... I'm not disagreeing with you just to argue, or because I'm not a Clarke fan (after today though, I respect him a hell of alot more, he certainly has swayed my opinion of late), I just believe M.Waugh is better. But they both certainly have that relaxed/effortless batting technique which makes them so unique and a pleasure to watch...
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby dedja » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:57 pm

Don't be stupid with this comparison rubbish REB ... Pup prefers his women much, much younger than Junior's
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Re: Australia v India 2nd Test - Sydney - commencing 3/1/12

Postby CoverKing » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:02 am

Well **** me, I never knew that. Sorry trader, my bad!
smac wrote:
Trader wrote:Nope, I haven't bothered to check, but my understanding is the law is something along the lines of if the stumps are already broken then a stump must be removed from the round via contact from the ball. Obviously this is normally completed by holding the ball against the stump, but if you hit it with enough force, you can knock it out of the ground.

That is correct.

The relevant Law:
Law 28 (The wicket is down)

1. Wicket put down
(a) The wicket is put down if a bail is completely removed from the top of the stumps, or a stump is struck out of the ground,
(i) by the ball,

There is no necessity for someone to hold the stump and remove it from the ground, it is just much more likely to happen that way.
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