Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:34 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
NFC wrote:I'm a bit staggered, maybe even upset, at the bagging Hughes has receieved. He's 20 years old. Sure he's not perfect, and has weaknesses but by nature he's an attacking, agressive batsman. He's just been given a last minute call-up, is playing his first test in Aus and chances are this will just a one off match. He's playing on a wicket that is massively in favour of the bowlers and all the pressure is on to perform. He saw a few short balls and tried to give them the treatment. He handled the short ball fine IMO. He's a friggen kid, he's got unbelievable natural talent, give him a bit of time before we bag him so much he's a spent force. Lets not go Damien Martyn on this one very talented youngster. :evil:


I'm a supporter of Hughes, but the wicket had nothing to do with his dismissal yesterday. He flashed at 3 balls that he should have been letting go, was dropped once, played and missed at the second, caught the third time.

What worries me is two things. After the first let off, he really needed to put the cue in the rack for awhile and have a good look at the bowlers. Playing a natural game is all well and good, but sometimes a Test opener cannot afford to do this .. not from ball 1 anyway.

So he has a propensity to flash early outside the off stump which is something he needs to eliminate from his game if he wishes to succeed as a Test opener, and he also appears unwilling to make adjustments to his game. Batting in conditions favourable to bowlers is a huge part of being an opener.

For the record, I think he'll make it, but I'm not convinced he's quite up to Test standard at this time. A 2nd innings 100 will help me change my mind. :)


I agree Hughes is Micheal Slater.....minus the talent. But I can't say that apparently because he's 20. Shocking technique which is fine when you are scoring runs but clearly an area of improvement when you are not.

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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby mal » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:45 am

Jimmy wrote:
mal wrote:FFS
Why isint MJ playing with a dead bat. irresponsible, selfish, terrible batting
No ones criticising him
Ah thats right hes making runs
Haurrie clobbered a few undisiplined batting as well, no critics
Ah thats right he made runs

I guess the criteria is if you play shots and get out cheap youra dill
But if you make runs well played

No doubt if Haddin was 40 not out by now we would e saying well batted

8/115 now
MJ smashes another 4 over the infield

GEEZ IM GLAD MITCH IS PLAYING HIS NATURAL GAME


im astonished by this post...do we really need to explain.... :roll: anyone who has played cricket knows why you are WRONG!


Everyone on SAFOOTY should be astonished by this post
Anyone who has played cricket knows Im wrong
This post was a sheer send up to all the posters who blasted Haddin for his rash stroke


HADDIN
MJ
HAURITZ
All played blazing shots in thier innings
HADDIN failed and was blasted by the safooty critics
MJ/HAURITZ were exonerated due to the fact they made sizable contributions

OTHER BATSMAN TOP 7
Only 1 batsman should be castigated after yesterdays debacle
HUGHES plays that shot so ok [agree 100% with rod rooster would have been better of getting out 1st nut]
WATSON beaten by a ripsnorter
PONTING plays the pull compulsively no prob, although the execution was a bit nuffy
CLARKE beaten by a pearler
NORTH just a poor decision
HADDIN looked awful but its the way he plays

The guy I want to hammer is HUSSEY
Forget about his nice gritty 28
For a genuine sound batsman with a sound technique his pull shot off a reasonable full length was a shocker

The pitch was a veritable minefield by modern standards
As in England when the ball did a few tricks our batters were vulnerable
If AU were to play on pitches of that nature more often, yesterdays debacle would need to be addressed
But with the likelyhood of avenues, streets and roads being the norm I wouldnt be to fazed

Todays prediction
AU 127
PA 266
AU 1/58
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:58 am

CoverKing wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
NFC wrote:I'm a bit staggered, maybe even upset, at the bagging Hughes has receieved. He's 20 years old. Sure he's not perfect, and has weaknesses but by nature he's an attacking, agressive batsman. He's just been given a last minute call-up, is playing his first test in Aus and chances are this will just a one off match. He's playing on a wicket that is massively in favour of the bowlers and all the pressure is on to perform. He saw a few short balls and tried to give them the treatment. He handled the short ball fine IMO. He's a friggen kid, he's got unbelievable natural talent, give him a bit of time before we bag him so much he's a spent force. Lets not go Damien Martyn on this one very talented youngster. :evil:


Great post NFC. As i said in a post earlier today he might have been better off getting caught first ball as he did look all at sea for the rest of his brief stay and that has probably harmed his reputation more than getting a first baller would have (unfairly IMO by the way). As you say though conditions were very much in favour of the bowlers and he hasn't had an ideal preperation.

Unfortunately Hughes will cop criticism for the rest of his career more than most other players as he doesn't have a textbook technique and if he's not making runs people will be very quick to suggest his technique is at fault. Those same people will be very quiet whilst he is making mountains of runs though and that will be more often than not over the next decade i reckon.


two great posts IMO. well done lads. I completely agree!


Me too, I'd rather see him in there than North, bring on the youth.
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:22 am

mal wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
mal wrote:FFS
Why isint MJ playing with a dead bat. irresponsible, selfish, terrible batting
No ones criticising him
Ah thats right hes making runs
Haurrie clobbered a few undisiplined batting as well, no critics
Ah thats right he made runs

I guess the criteria is if you play shots and get out cheap youra dill
But if you make runs well played

No doubt if Haddin was 40 not out by now we would e saying well batted

8/115 now
MJ smashes another 4 over the infield

GEEZ IM GLAD MITCH IS PLAYING HIS NATURAL GAME


im astonished by this post...do we really need to explain.... :roll: anyone who has played cricket knows why you are WRONG!


Everyone on SAFOOTY should be astonished by this post
Anyone who has played cricket knows Im wrong
This post was a sheer send up to all the posters who blasted Haddin for his rash stroke


HADDIN
MJ
HAURITZ
All played blazing shots in thier innings
HADDIN failed and was blasted by the safooty critics
MJ/HAURITZ were exonerated due to the fact they made sizable contributions

OTHER BATSMAN TOP 7
Only 1 batsman should be castigated after yesterdays debacle
HUGHES plays that shot so ok [agree 100% with rod rooster would have been better of getting out 1st nut]
WATSON beaten by a ripsnorter
PONTING plays the pull compulsively no prob, although the execution was a bit nuffy
CLARKE beaten by a pearler
NORTH just a poor decision
HADDIN looked awful but its the way he plays

The guy I want to hammer is HUSSEY
Forget about his nice gritty 28
For a genuine sound batsman with a sound technique his pull shot off a reasonable full length was a shocker

The pitch was a veritable minefield by modern standards
As in England when the ball did a few tricks our batters were vulnerable
If AU were to play on pitches of that nature more often, yesterdays debacle would need to be addressed
But with the likelyhood of avenues, streets and roads being the norm I wouldnt be to fazed

Todays prediction
AU 127
PA 266
AU 1/58


Hussey simply mis-read the bounce. Ponting's shot was deplorable, first ball and the skipper plays a half-assed hook, c'mon mal. Watson & Clarke faced rippers to get them out, Hughes got found out from a short preparation and nerves, North played a nothing shot, Haddin's shot was embarrasing, caught in two minds, should've tried to slog it in hindsight.
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby locky801 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:35 am

On the way Day 2

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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:39 am

locky801 wrote:On the way Day 2

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Half way there LOL.
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby locky801 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:46 am

North drops a sitter at first slip

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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby Pup » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:47 am

North puts down a sitter.
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby locky801 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:55 am

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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:56 am

Has North put down other catches in the slips this summer?
I seem to recall he has...
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby Swamp Donkey » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:13 am

They're 0/40 and we havent made a change in the bowling this morning. Given we only have 128 on the board bring on Mitch, the sooner this partnership breaks the better or we will be in all sorts (even more so)
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby locky801 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:13 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Has North put down other catches in the slips this summer?
I seem to recall he has...



One i can remember but not a simple as that one

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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby Hondo » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:13 am

Is North going south?
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:17 am

Is the pitch doing anything?
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby locky801 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:17 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Is the pitch doing anything?



still movement off the pitch and some swing
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby locky801 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:29 am

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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby Dogmatic » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:41 am

I don't have a problem with Haddin playing shots, what I do have an issue with is his shot selection.
He needs to be a lot smarter and not premeditating shots.
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby locky801 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:42 am

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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

Postby Pup » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:07 am

hondo71 wrote:Is North going south?


Are you trying to find a new man? Giving Hussey a rest? ;)
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Re: Second Test Jan 3rd-7th@SCG

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