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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:14 am

Result T5 Eng-Aust Result LIVE

Select the winner or a draw.
No. Description Win
20401 England $1.28
20403 Australia $4.25
20402 Draw $21.00
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby Pup » Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:13 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Result T5 Eng-Aust Result LIVE

Select the winner or a draw.
No. Description Win
20401 England $1.28
20403 Australia $4.25
20402 Draw $21.00


How can we be $4.25 chasing 540. :shock:
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby Jimmy » Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:14 am

this thing can be done :twisted: :evil: 8)
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby Pottsy » Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:15 am

Australia 100/1. Or more.

The history of the game demands no less!
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:16 am

Pup wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Result T5 Eng-Aust Result LIVE

Select the winner or a draw.
No. Description Win
20401 England $1.28
20403 Australia $4.25
20402 Draw $21.00


How can we be $4.25 chasing 540. :shock:


Because bookies have no faith in the English cricket team.
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby mal » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:49 am

AU 0/80
KATDUTCHY 42*
WATRODSON 31*

Dutchy and Rod Roosters boys have done well
Sadly this game will be over just b4 stumps TOMorrow with AU all out for 348
This is what might happen

WATSON LBW to a off cutter that keeps low or misses an off break
KATICH C GULLY flicking at a widish ball
HUSSEY BOWLED OR LBW not playing a shot

WATSON has done his job
BUT
The much MALigned iconic legendary safooty allrounder has to do better
He must convert a start into a ton at this level
He also needs to work on that off cutter that squares him up
Its not a recent techical flaw, its hounded him throughout his international career
In India where the ball keeps too low he was exposed and was dismissed or almost Bowled and LBW too often.
Fortunately in other parts of the world the ball actually bounces and a lot of his LBW decisions are going too high.
And he has to fluke staying fit .....

Having said all that one thing he should rightly be accredited with is his courage
He gets behind the ball, he takes the blows for his country and always tries his best
Unlike the more abundantly talented junior who conceded his spot to Watto


My prediction
58 KAT
66 WATTO
1 PONTING
0 HUSSEY
44 CLARKE
9 NORTH
93* HADDIN
21 JOHNSON
8 SIDDLE
25 CLARK
2 HILFENHAUS
21 EXTRAS

348
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:02 am

My prediction. All out for 248.

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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:05 am

To be fair mal i've always said Watto could bat and if he just focussed on that and gave away the bowling he'd be far better off. Look what happens when he hardly ever bowls. I still don't think he should be opening (and in the long term i am sure he'll find his way to the middle order) but he is doing very well.
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby wycbloods » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:26 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Result T5 Eng-Aust Result LIVE

Select the winner or a draw.
No. Description Win
20401 England $1.28
20403 Australia $4.25
20402 Draw $21.00


$1.28 is an absolute gift. No way we will win this one unfortunately.
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby stampy » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:28 am

Pup wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Result T5 Eng-Aust Result LIVE

Select the winner or a draw.
No. Description Win
20401 England $1.28
20403 Australia $4.25
20402 Draw $21.00


How can we be $4.25 chasing 540. :shock:


absolutely ridiculous odds, should be $26, might interest me a bit but $4.25? nfw!!

wouldnt it be great to pull this off though?, history says no way, but i was at adelaide oval back in '92 when SA got 500+ to knock off QLD, anybody else there that february day? we could have got 600 that day so lets hope the aussies can do the same
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby mal » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 am

rod_rooster wrote:To be fair mal i've always said Watto could bat and if he just focussed on that and gave away the bowling he'd be far better off. Look what happens when he hardly ever bowls. I still don't think he should be opening (and in the long term i am sure he'll find his way to the middle order) but he is doing very well.


His spot is opening or top order
Quality spin and the ball keeping lower would be his prob batting 6 or 7
He is best suited at 3 or 4 but that aint ever gunna be

After years of mass debating over Watto I have too say this is the most dissappointed ive been with the Iconic legendary safooty allrounder
Its been very frustrating seeing him get starts and not converting
Openers who only get to 50 are not the answer
The average takes a hammering after a couple of failures[4 x 50s + 2 x 0s = ave of 33]

Going back to that off cutting weakness of WATTO
here is his innings v India + England in recent times

2 B SHARMA
41 B SHARMA
78 LBW MISHRA
2 LBW SHARMA
36 B SHEWAG
2 B SINGH
9 C DHONI B SINGH

7 innings in India 6 either LBW or Bowled

62 LBW ONIONS
53 C PRIOR B ANDERSON
51 LBW ONIONS
34 LBW BROAD
31 *

4 completed innings in England and 3 LBWs

So in the 2 series he has been dismissed 9 times to LBW/BOWLED and twice Caught Behind
The prob with that is the bowlers are getting Watto out
If he was getting caught at long on, fine leg and stumped that would his own doing

IF
WATTO can address that weakness on about off peg he may blossom
He needs to drive more often in Test games and not allow bowlers to dictate to him

10 MATCHES
16 DIGS
423 RUNS
26-43 AVE

14 wickets @ 37
4/42 best

Cant survive being a Dave Clark 5 bits and pieces alllrounder at test level

MUST make hundreds batting
MUST take a fivefa bowling

Of the 2 his batting is the only chance
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby RoosterMarty » Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:08 pm

The spineless batting in our first dig has cost us dear. All we needed was for one or two players to dig in in the middle order but that is way too hard for this team.
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby wycbloods » Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:27 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:My prediction. All out for 248.

regards,

REB


My prediction all out 399.
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby Jimmy » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:16 pm

RoosterMarty wrote:The spineless batting in our first dig has cost us dear. All we needed was for one or two players to dig in in the middle order but that is way too hard for this team.


so ******* true...gutless display...very UNaustralian.

AB would be absolutely livid :evil:
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby Gozu » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:12 pm

Ashes 09: 466 to go

August 23, 2009 – 5:39 am, by Jarrod Kimber

The crowd stood and applauded their national hero gimp on his way out. They stood and applauded his 22. They stood and applauded their new talismanic all rounders arrival. They stood and applauded his stunning 29 (with two chances). They stood and applauded every shot Swann played (even the singles). They stood and gave him a unified ovation when he brought up his 50 (which he celebrated like a hundred). Then they stood and applauded Jonathan Trott (their 4th South African born batsman in this series) for making his hundred. They stood and applauded Trott walking off the ground.

At one stage Stuart Broad stretched in the field, they stood and applauded that too.

The English fans are the fittest in the world. Anyone who can be bothered getting to their feet for a standard single must be.

It was a dead day of test cricket. Australia never really looked like taking 10 wickets, and England seemed confused by the options of going for it, or just batting as long as they could.

In the end they went for it. They gave Australia their wickets, but also made runs at a fairly good click. The pitch, no matter what the commentators want to say, is pretty damn good to bat on.

Jonathan Trott was outstanding. He seems to have a composure almost alien to younger English batsmen. Other than the first ball of the day he never really looked like going out and he allowed the English lower middle order to swing from the hip.

Prior decided to run himself out. Freddie put in a typical underachieving overcongratulated cameo. Broad swung away madly trying to get himself out, and eventually did. And Swann played a gem of a knock. He is such a refreshing batsman, like the number 8s of the 50s & 60s he just goes out to entertain the crowd as much as anything else.

It was good he did, as the cricket had a distinct “lets get Australian in and get on with the game” feel to it at that stage.

When Trott finally was dismissed, England declared. Trott had proved to them that for all the demons, ghouls and spooks in the pitch, it is still a great batting pitch. There is still not one batsman who can claim the surface was the major factor in his dismissal. When one ball kept low, and by kept low I mean subterranean, the Australians must have been disappointed. But this pitch just refuses to actually give wickets. When the ball explodes it seems to be wide of the stumps, and even if you edge there is little chance it will make it to the keeper or the slip. The ball is still spinning, but it is not exaggerated fast spin, just good conditions for spin.

Australia’s best finger spinner took 4 wickets on it, and proved that he should have been given much more of a bowl in this series than he has done. If he is a part time spinner it is only because he doesn’t get used as often enough. The decision to not pick Hauritz does seem like a massive miscalculation of the conditions, but remember that England had the choice to bring in a second spinner, and they baulked as well.

That doesn’t make Stuart Clark’s one wicket in the match look any better though.

When Australia finally hit the crease they were chasing 546. While it seemed all but impossible on a pitch with chunks of dirt flying out of it, it was less than 3 runs an over for the rest of the match and two big hundreds from their top order away from them.

In the next 5 years a team will chase down 600 to win a test match, but it will be on a pitch that looks friendlier than this one.

They started positively, and Katich and Watson stroked England around to get to the close 0/80, 7 runs better than they managed in the first innings. Watson still looks like going out LBW every over, and Katich hit 3 or so balls to first slip one bounce. That is the pitch though, even if you score the runs you are going to have the odd scare, but unless something goes drastically wrong England should be able to pick up 10 wickets in the next 4 sessions.

Miracles can happen, and at 0/67 I heard the first English fan (now firmly seated) say, “This isn’t looking promising”.

If Australia somehow pull this off it would be the single greatest come from behind victory in test cricket. They wont win it, but the bookies over here have them at 4/1 already, which says much about the English mindset.

Expect Watson to go out early on (he always seems to go out after breaks) and then it may be down to the two most bloody minded cricketers in this Australian side, Ponting and Katich, to say whether this is a tame defeat, spirited loss, or freakish drop your undies come from behind win.

Statistical note: Cricinfo says that Australia have 10 wickets in hand, that is not correct, Michael Hussey is already out, he just doesn’t know it yet.
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby cennals05 » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:42 pm

It should never have come down to this test. We should have won the first test and been 2-1 up.
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby stampy » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:59 pm

Gozu wrote:Ashes 09: 466 to go

August 23, 2009 – 5:39 am, by Jarrod Kimber

The crowd stood and applauded their national hero gimp on his way out. They stood and applauded his 22. They stood and applauded their new talismanic all rounders arrival. They stood and applauded his stunning 29 (with two chances). They stood and applauded every shot Swann played (even the singles). They stood and gave him a unified ovation when he brought up his 50 (which he celebrated like a hundred). Then they stood and applauded Jonathan Trott (their 4th South African born batsman in this series) for making his hundred. They stood and applauded Trott walking off the ground.

At one stage Stuart Broad stretched in the field, they stood and applauded that too.

The English fans are the fittest in the world. Anyone who can be bothered getting to their feet for a standard single must be.

It was a dead day of test cricket. Australia never really looked like taking 10 wickets, and England seemed confused by the options of going for it, or just batting as long as they could.

In the end they went for it. They gave Australia their wickets, but also made runs at a fairly good click. The pitch, no matter what the commentators want to say, is pretty damn good to bat on.

Jonathan Trott was outstanding. He seems to have a composure almost alien to younger English batsmen. Other than the first ball of the day he never really looked like going out and he allowed the English lower middle order to swing from the hip.

Prior decided to run himself out. Freddie put in a typical underachieving overcongratulated cameo. Broad swung away madly trying to get himself out, and eventually did. And Swann played a gem of a knock. He is such a refreshing batsman, like the number 8s of the 50s & 60s he just goes out to entertain the crowd as much as anything else.

It was good he did, as the cricket had a distinct “lets get Australian in and get on with the game” feel to it at that stage.

When Trott finally was dismissed, England declared. Trott had proved to them that for all the demons, ghouls and spooks in the pitch, it is still a great batting pitch. There is still not one batsman who can claim the surface was the major factor in his dismissal. When one ball kept low, and by kept low I mean subterranean, the Australians must have been disappointed. But this pitch just refuses to actually give wickets. When the ball explodes it seems to be wide of the stumps, and even if you edge there is little chance it will make it to the keeper or the slip. The ball is still spinning, but it is not exaggerated fast spin, just good conditions for spin.

Australia’s best finger spinner took 4 wickets on it, and proved that he should have been given much more of a bowl in this series than he has done. If he is a part time spinner it is only because he doesn’t get used as often enough. The decision to not pick Hauritz does seem like a massive miscalculation of the conditions, but remember that England had the choice to bring in a second spinner, and they baulked as well.

That doesn’t make Stuart Clark’s one wicket in the match look any better though.

When Australia finally hit the crease they were chasing 546. While it seemed all but impossible on a pitch with chunks of dirt flying out of it, it was less than 3 runs an over for the rest of the match and two big hundreds from their top order away from them.

In the next 5 years a team will chase down 600 to win a test match, but it will be on a pitch that looks friendlier than this one.

They started positively, and Katich and Watson stroked England around to get to the close 0/80, 7 runs better than they managed in the first innings. Watson still looks like going out LBW every over, and Katich hit 3 or so balls to first slip one bounce. That is the pitch though, even if you score the runs you are going to have the odd scare, but unless something goes drastically wrong England should be able to pick up 10 wickets in the next 4 sessions.

Miracles can happen, and at 0/67 I heard the first English fan (now firmly seated) say, “This isn’t looking promising”.

If Australia somehow pull this off it would be the single greatest come from behind victory in test cricket. They wont win it, but the bookies over here have them at 4/1 already, which says much about the English mindset.

Expect Watson to go out early on (he always seems to go out after breaks) and then it may be down to the two most bloody minded cricketers in this Australian side, Ponting and Katich, to say whether this is a tame defeat, spirited loss, or freakish drop your undies come from behind win.

Statistical note: Cricinfo says that Australia have 10 wickets in hand, that is not correct, Michael Hussey is already out, he just doesn’t know it yet.



love that article!
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby MightyEagles » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:29 pm

cennals05 wrote:It should never have come down to this test. We should have won the first test and been 2-1 up.


Agree, but it was the rain on the 4th day of the 1st test that cost us the win.
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby spell_check » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:32 pm

Good start, any chance you get for runs - run like hell for the first one or two to give every chance for another. Every run counts.
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Re: 5th Ashes test Eng v Aust at The Oval, London

Postby mal » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:34 pm

Sorry lads could not refuse $1-31 the Poms
Business is business
But if AU fluked the 5 million runs needed I will still be happy
I put on $100 to win $31

Now watch WATTO make a ton !!!
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