3RD ASHES TEST EG V AU EDGBASTON 2009

[whufc]

LUNCH 8/203
Perhaps now we can see the value of Brad Haddin ...

in what way and whilst you are explaining that, explain the value of a couple of others in the side at this time

Easy explanation just peruse Brad Haddins innings in this Test Series

Mal stop talking so much sense, how dare you say a single bad word about a south aussie, all south aussies are great.

Manou I can still hold my dream of one day playing for Australia.

[carey]

Remember when bowlers used to bowl 'line and length' instead of 'putting it the right areas'

I'm getting old.

nah your not mate thats what i ment by the right areas i was always shown line and length

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LUNCH 8/203
Perhaps now we can see the value of Brad Haddin ...

in what way and whilst you are explaining that, explain the value of a couple of others in the side at this time

Easy explanation just peruse Brad Haddins innings in this Test Series

I don't recall him having to deal with that much swing. What the problem is, we seem to not be able to handle the swing, and it's now kind of like India where we have not been able to handle the spin (2004/05 aside).

[MADDOG3]

One of the greatest tragedies of world cricket is the assumption that all umpires are biased towards their own country. Therefore the best Test cricket team in the world, never has their matches umpired by the best umpire in the world.

Another great tragedy in world cricket is how Australians instantly revert to blaming the umpires when they're getting flogged.

Give me a break.

We are playing rubbish and they are playing well. Hurts more when you have showponies like Koertzen rubbing it in.

[carey]

merv hughes just summed it up englands bowlers are bowling well and he believes the aussie bowlers will bowl just as well i guess we'll see

[Hondo]

I don't think struggling with quality swing bowling is a problem unique to Australian batsman

I think most batting line ups would have struggled out there against that standard of bowling

Up to our lads to bowl as well and, if they do, we'll see a low scoring test match probably

[dedja]

Just a suggestion ... maybe wait until both sides have batted before deciding that all is lost.

[carey]

LUNCH 8/203
Perhaps now we can see the value of Brad Haddin ...

in what way and whilst you are explaining that, explain the value of a couple of others in the side at this time

Easy explanation just peruse Brad Haddins innings in this Test Series

Mal stop talking so much sense, how dare you say a single bad word about a south aussie, all south aussies are great.

Manou I can still hold my dream of one day playing for Australia.

what a cracker that got manou tho?

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I don't have much of a problem now with Aleem Dar, as he has improved greatly, but I've never had a good opinion of Koertzen. I still say Simon Taufel and Steve Davis are the two best umpires in International Cricket at the moment.

[Dutchy]

Just a suggestion ... maybe wait until both sides have batted before deciding that all is lost.

spot on...

[Pup]

Hang on you guys think he should be given out if the ball isn't hitting the stumps . Whether a shot is offered or not if it ain't hitting the stumps it isn't out.

You watch the replay from where the umpire is standing and tell me would have given that not out? No way.

Every umpire in the world would have given that out IMO.

That may be the case, i don't know, but it still doesn't mean it is out. Simple if the ball isn't hitting the stumps it isn't out. Our batting has been poor so far this test and in the second but the contribution the umpires are making is far too significant IMO.

So you are blaming the umpires for the current predicament?

Like i said at full speed i thought plum and so would have everyone else, The umpires do not get the benefit of hawk eye which frankly is not that accurate anyway. I would have given that out.

[MADDOG3]

Pretty amazing bowling by the Poms... the conditions are perfect for making the ball talk and they are doing it well.

The selectors are going to rue not picking Clark. Even without KP the Poms look like making a mess of our attack.

[wycbloods]

One of the greatest tragedies of world cricket is the assumption that all umpires are biased towards their own country. Therefore the best Test cricket team in the world, never has their matches umpired by the best umpire in the world.

Another great tragedy in world cricket is how Australians instantly revert to blaming the umpires when they're getting flogged.

MD has a point Simon Taufel is widely recognised as the best umpire in the world and he is unable to officiate in a test match that we play in which isn't great for the game IMO. I am not blaming the umpires for the position we find ourselves in, the poms have bowled extremely well and have continously put the umpires under pressure to make close calls, as the great Shane Warne and Glenn Mcgrath were great at doing.

[Pup]

Pretty amazing bowling by the Poms... the conditions are perfect for making the ball talk and they are doing it well.

The selectors are going to rue not picking Clark. Even without KP the Poms look like making a mess of our attack.

I wouldn't be so sure.

Strauss and Cook are both vunerable early.

Bopara is rubbish, Bell is just back into the side and Collingwood, Flintoff and Prior are no world beaters.

Not that great a batting line up really.

[MADDOG3]

That may be the case, i don't know, but it still doesn't mean it is out. Simple if the ball isn't hitting the stumps it isn't out. Our batting has been poor so far this test and in the second but the contribution the umpires are making is far too significant IMO.

So you are blaming the umpires for the current predicament?

Like i said at full speed i thought plum and so would have everyone else, The umpires do not get the benefit of hawk eye which frankly is not that accurate anyway. I would have given that out.

Sorry but don't include me with everyone else. There was doubt with the height at full speed.

I think wycbloods is right, this is the top level of cricket and there have been too many mistakes in a marquee series, just like 2005. Do you think we should pretend like there isn't a problem? You can say 'that's cricket' till you are blue in the face but the players are professional and we expect a heap from them, why should the umpires be any different?

[wycbloods]

Pretty amazing bowling by the Poms... the conditions are perfect for making the ball talk and they are doing it well.

The selectors are going to rue not picking Clark. Even without KP the Poms look like making a mess of our attack.

I wouldn't be so sure.

Strauss and Cook are both vunerable early.

Bopara is rubbish, Bell is just back into the side and Collingwood, Flintoff and Prior are no world beaters.

Not that great a batting line up really.

Agreed Pup, they have bowled very well to have us in the bother we are in and their batting line-up isn't as good as ours IF we bowl about 3/4's as well as they have we will be in with a shot here.

[Mic]

The most absurd thing about this awful performance is that Watson will be our highest scorer.

[carey]

Pretty amazing bowling by the Poms... the conditions are perfect for making the ball talk and they are doing it well.

The selectors are going to rue not picking Clark. Even without KP the Poms look like making a mess of our attack.

I wouldn't be so sure.

Strauss and Cook are both vunerable early.

Bopara is rubbish, Bell is just back into the side and Collingwood, Flintoff and Prior are no world beaters.

Not that great a batting line up really.

i think every batsmen in the world is.

but i do agree that an early wicket or 2 and england are a big chance to fold your right it isnt a great batting line had this been in aust total diff story

[wycbloods]

It would be good to see us get to 260 or 270 and steal some of the momentum back from the poms, just as Anderson and Onions did to us last test.

[silicone skyline]

Loving having Stuart Broad on at the moment.