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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:55 pm

From cricket.com.au


Negotiations between Cricket Australia and the players' union are progressing following latest meeting between respective CEOs
Cricket Australia has quelled speculation the coming Ashes summer is under threat, claiming that negotiations for a new Memorandum of Understanding are progressing positively despite a series of curious statements by the players' union over the weekend that have been described as fuelling a "concocted crisis". CA Chief Executive James Sutherland met for more than two hours with his Australian Cricketers' Association counterpart Alistair Nicholson today to further progress an agreement, with further meetings scheduled over coming days. The tone of conciliation stands starkly at odds with claims made in ACA correspondence over the weekend that left CA officials "perplexed" and "bemused" given that productive talks had taken place just hours before the union wrote to players warning the weeks of negotiations were at risk of regressing 'back to square one'. In an email sent after Nicholson had updated the ACA's executive on progress of the MOU negotiations last Friday, players were also told that the vast level of detail that needed to be covered in a new agreement meant it "still may not be completed with time enough to meet the needs of fans, sponsors and broadcasters invested in the upcoming tours and the summer of cricket". CA indicated today it remains "100 per cent confident" the summer's Ashes series against England will proceed as planned starting in Brisbane on November 23, but were less clear on the rationale for the rolling commentary on the ongoing talks provided by the ACA over the weekend. This included:
Claims that a 'terms sheet' flagged as a possible "peace proposal" by the ACA had been rejected by CA even though the union had specifically noted it was not a legally binding document
Assertions that the 'terms sheet' had been tendered on Tuesday and the union was awaiting CA's response, even though contents and financial assumptions contained within the document had been discussed at length (despite its unofficial status) during negotiations last Wednesday
A pledge that the union will continue to fight for a "fair share for all players and for grassroots cricket" even though the proposal contained in the initial 'terms sheet' delivered more money to players and less to grassroots than was mandated under the previous MOU
A suggestion that any move by CA to ignore the proposals outlined in the 'terms sheet' would "have the effect of taking the negotiations back to 'square one' minimising the good work and good faith acquired over the last two weeks and again jeopardising upcoming tours" even though the document was tendered unsolicited and held no formal status

Despite being confused by claims that MOU negotiations that seemed to be progressing harmoniously on Friday afternoon were suddenly at risk of collapsing just hours later – without any formal meetings having taken place in the interim – CA remains hopeful an agreement is imminent. "Cricket Australia will not comment on details of the negotiation but productive discussions were held today and progress is being made on a range of issues," a CA spokesman said this evening in the wake of the meeting between Sutherland and Nicholson. "We have been in constant communication with the ACA and we are expecting further meetings on the negotiation to continue over the coming days." It is understood the ACA used its missive to players on Friday evening as part of its regular communications roll-out to keep their members abreast of developments in the negotiations for a new MOU that was due to come into effect on July 1. The decision to air the prospect of talks regressing to "square one" has also been interpreted as a stunt to gain additional leverage in negotiations, by raising the prospect of a major setback to the process when the unofficial 'terms sheet' was not accepted by CA as a de facto MOU. A media statement issued by the ACA this morning, the 35th put out by the union in relation to the MOU (CA has released 14 over the same period), referred to the unofficial 'term sheet' under a headline 'Players Propose Peace Plan'. Among the items included in the 'term sheet' and outlined in the media statement was a proposal for players to allocate a sum of up to $30 million to grassroots cricket out of the share of money they would receive from revenue above CA's forecasts, as well as performance bonuses they might earn. The union also reiterated that back pay to players who have been continuing to train without remuneration since becoming uncontracted when the previous MOU expired on June 30 was "plainly and rightly non-negotiable". And claimed that both parties agreeing to the 'terms sheet', despite their mutual agreement that it was not a legally binding document, provided a vehicle by which the ongoing impasse could be quickly resolved "given the urgency" of the negotiations. "Reaching in principle agreement is what the players have attempted to do this week as a way of breaking the deadlock and not jepoardising (sic) any more cricket," Nicholson said in the release.
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby Booney » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:43 am

So going nowhere then?
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby bennymacca » Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:24 pm

Looks like they have voted to boycott the Bangladesh tour if the MOU is not in place
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby heater31 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:01 pm

SACA membership renewal arrived in the post today.....over $700 for 2 tickets and no guarantee of any cricket :shock: :roll:
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby Booney » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:56 am

heater31 wrote:SACA membership renewal arrived in the post today.....over $700 for 2 tickets and no guarantee of any cricket :shock: :roll:


Crazy money IMO for what you get. Is the below list accurate?

5 days ( maybe ) Test
One ODI
One I T20?
Big Whoop matches.
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby Trader » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:02 am

Does a SACA membership get you into the ground at the other test matches?
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby matt » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:27 am

Booney wrote:
heater31 wrote:SACA membership renewal arrived in the post today.....over $700 for 2 tickets and no guarantee of any cricket :shock: :roll:


Crazy money IMO for what you get. Is the below list accurate?

5 days ( maybe ) Test
One ODI
One I T20?
Big Whoop matches.


This is what shits me.

As a comparison:
2017/2018
Test match
1 x ODI
Strikers 20/20s
Some Shield games (maybe 3 at Adelaide Oval and 2 at the Bay - fixture not released yet)

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Test match
3 x ODIs
5 Shield games (full program)
5 Domestic ODs
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby heater31 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:27 pm

The value for money is worse for me as I refuse to support a franchise playing in blue and black and claim to be representing Adelaide but yet their captain the past few years has been a shit bloke from Victoria, opening bat from Tasmania and a beanpole opening bowler from Queensland who played a couple good games and gets picked to play international cricket and they claim him like he's just taken 8 fa in the shield final!
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby Brodlach » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:48 pm

If this trouble with CA continues does that mean the Sheffield Shield is cancelled also?
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby heater31 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:56 pm

Brodlach wrote:If this trouble with CA continues does that mean the Sheffield Shield is cancelled also?
Would states select their sides full of uncontracted players? Match payments only??
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:13 pm

New deal has been done. Will be announced tomorrow I believe
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:17 pm

Jim05 wrote:New deal has been done. Will be announced tomorrow I believe


Maybe not Jim-

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/latest-n ... 2017-07-31

The likelihood of Australia's cricketers being back on the field for upcoming series against Bangladesh, India and England has risen amid speculation that an agreement on the protracted pay dispute could be reached within days.

While Cricket Australia and the Australian Cricketers' Association both described media reports this evening that a deal on a new Memorandum of Understanding could be announced tomorrow as "premature", it is understood intensive negotiations between the two parties continue to progress.

News Corp Australia reported this evening that agreement had been reached on the key points of difference that have seen the parties at loggerheads for the past nine months, but sources confirmed that talks remained ongoing tonight and that no formal announcements had been scheduled.

"Good progress is being made with the ACA but we will not comment on details of the negotiation, nor will we enter into any media speculation on the negotiation," a CA spokesperson said last night.

A spokesman for the ACA also described reports that a resolution had been reached as "premature" and declined to comment further on the negotiations
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby bennymacca » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:49 pm

MOU is in place.

This article doesnt contain any details though

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/pay-disp ... 2017-08-03
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby Dog_ger2 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:25 pm

Cricket has gone backwards for me over the last decade or more.

Only our arch enemy can bring back some interest.

An Ashes tour but I don't think the true love will e4ver return.

We need something new again to revive the passion.

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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:13 pm

How does this guy find the time and resources to sponsor the biggest series in Test Cricket?

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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:03 pm

The Adelaide Oval is set to host the opening Test of next Summer with a Day/Night contest against India. Matches to follow in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney.

Sri Lanka will be here in January for 2 Tests in Brisbane and Tassie.
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby The Bedge » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:06 pm

PatowalongaPirate wrote:The Adelaide Oval is set to host the opening Test of next Summer with a Day/Night contest against India. Matches to follow in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney.

Sri Lanka will be here in January for 2 Tests in Brisbane and Tassie.

Was actually wondering the other day why they don't mix up the test order for series.
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:10 pm

The Bedge wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:The Adelaide Oval is set to host the opening Test of next Summer with a Day/Night contest against India. Matches to follow in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney.

Sri Lanka will be here in January for 2 Tests in Brisbane and Tassie.

Was actually wondering the other day why they don't mix up the test order for series.

Tradition generally.

They'll never swap the Melbourne or Sydney dates.
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby Spargo » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:15 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:The Adelaide Oval is set to host the opening Test of next Summer with a Day/Night contest against India. Matches to follow in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney.

Sri Lanka will be here in January for 2 Tests in Brisbane and Tassie.

Was actually wondering the other day why they don't mix up the test order for series.

Tradition generally.

They'll never swap the Melbourne or Sydney dates.

I’m sure they’ll enjoy the tension plus all the roller coasting highs & lows of the upcoming dead rubber test matches...
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Re: Australian International Summer

Postby Corona Man » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:21 pm

Spargo wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:The Adelaide Oval is set to host the opening Test of next Summer with a Day/Night contest against India. Matches to follow in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney.

Sri Lanka will be here in January for 2 Tests in Brisbane and Tassie.

Was actually wondering the other day why they don't mix up the test order for series.

Tradition generally.

They'll never swap the Melbourne or Sydney dates.

I’m sure they’ll enjoy the tension plus all the roller coasting highs & lows of the upcoming dead rubber test matches...

I will enjoy the banter and the beers.
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