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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Jim05 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:03 pm

Interesting stat that afridi has 3 of the top 6 fastest centuries in ODI's.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Jim05 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:06 pm

The pakis are my favourite team to watch when they are switched on and in full flight.
Still my smokeys for the final, any side that has afridi,misbah and the two akmals are always a big chance
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:08 pm

half way up middle?.......getthefuggouttahere
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Jim05 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:12 pm

gadj1976 wrote:half way up middle?.......getthefuggouttahere

Hawke eye is the biggest load of shit. That ball was angling down leg and would have been lucky to hit leg
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Jim05 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:18 pm

Pakistan finish on 7/317
46 extras WTF, 37 wides absolute disgrace
Kenya will do well to get half of the pakis score.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby brod » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:23 pm

Jim05 wrote:Interesting stat that afridi has 3 of the top 6 fastest centuries in ODI's.


Great stat Jim..and you know I like a stat ;)
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Jim05 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:31 pm

brod wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Interesting stat that afridi has 3 of the top 6 fastest centuries in ODI's.


Great stat Jim..and you know I like a stat ;)

I love a good stat :D
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Brucetiki » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:43 pm

Jim05 wrote:Pakistan finish on 7/317
46 extras WTF, 37 wides absolute disgrace
Kenya will do well to get half of the pakis score.


Kenya's highest score against Pakistan is 179 so they will indeed be very lucky to get half that score!
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:44 pm

Jim05 wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:half way up middle?.......getthefuggouttahere

Hawke eye is the biggest load of ****. That ball was angling down leg and would have been lucky to hit leg


The biggest problem I have with it is the prediction given when a batsmen is hit on the front pad which is two or three feet outside of the crease. Wouldn't even normally get a look in from the umpire, yet they go to review and give them out. Massive flaw in the review system.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby brod » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:47 pm

Brucetiki wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Pakistan finish on 7/317
46 extras WTF, 37 wides absolute disgrace
Kenya will do well to get half of the pakis score.


Record number of extras in an ODI is 59 twice by Pakistan

Kenya's highest score against Pakistan is 179 so they will indeed be very lucky to get half that score!


The 46 extras by Kenya sits 5th all time, the highest since 1999
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Grahaml » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:57 pm

Quichey wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:half way up middle?.......getthefuggouttahere

Hawke eye is the biggest load of ****. That ball was angling down leg and would have been lucky to hit leg


The biggest problem I have with it is the prediction given when a batsmen is hit on the front pad which is two or three feet outside of the crease. Wouldn't even normally get a look in from the umpire, yet they go to review and give them out. Massive flaw in the review system.


That's not true. Often batsmen are hit on the front pad going forward and given. Never seen the rule you can be too far down the pitch, so feel free to point it out. Batsmen have been telling me for years the rule exists so I'm sure it's there somewhere......

Going down the pitch really just makes it harder to be hit in line. In some cases it can be harder for an umpire to be sure the ball is hitting the stumps, but the ball has travelled something like 80% of the journey already.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby brod » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:00 am

brod wrote:
Brucetiki wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Pakistan finish on 7/317
46 extras WTF, 37 wides absolute disgrace
Kenya will do well to get half of the pakis score.


Record number of extras in an ODI is 59 twice by Pakistan

Kenya's highest score against Pakistan is 179 so they will indeed be very lucky to get half that score!


The 46 extras by Kenya sits 5th all time, the highest since 1999


The 37 wides equals the most ever in a ODI
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Media Park » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:30 am

KENYA 112 ALL OUT

Shahid Afridi 5/16 (8 overs)
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Q. » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:28 am

Grahaml wrote:
Quichey wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:half way up middle?.......getthefuggouttahere

Hawke eye is the biggest load of ****. That ball was angling down leg and would have been lucky to hit leg


The biggest problem I have with it is the prediction given when a batsmen is hit on the front pad which is two or three feet outside of the crease. Wouldn't even normally get a look in from the umpire, yet they go to review and give them out. Massive flaw in the review system.


That's not true. Often batsmen are hit on the front pad going forward and given. Never seen the rule you can be too far down the pitch, so feel free to point it out. Batsmen have been telling me for years the rule exists so I'm sure it's there somewhere......

Going down the pitch really just makes it harder to be hit in line. In some cases it can be harder for an umpire to be sure the ball is hitting the stumps, but the ball has travelled something like 80% of the journey already.


Not 'going forward', but 'already forward'. It's not a rule, but it makes it mighty hard to be given out because it's so hard to tell where the ball will end up. The human eye has it's limitations and I'm of the opinion that hawkeye has its limitations in that scenario.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby whufc » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:28 pm

Im really excited about the West Indies chances this World Cup, i havent felt this amount of excitment for them in many years.

Any batting line up which includes Chris Gayle, Keiran Pollard, Dwayne Bravo, Ramnaresh Sarwan is capable of hitting 300 plus.

Watch for Darren Bravo this bloke is the next Bryan Lara, he is very very very good!!!!

I like the bowling line up as well with Roach they have an out and out quick, Darren Sammy provides line and length and in Suliman Benn and Chris Gayle they have 2 spinners who we will be able to get through 20 overs very quickly and sneak up on other teams.

For me their line up will be something like

1. Chris Gayle
2. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
3. Ramnaresh Sarwan
4. Darren Bravo
5. Dwayne Bravo
6. Keiran Pollard
7. Darren Sammy
8. Devon Thomas
9. Nikita Miller / R.Rampaul
10. Sulimann Benn
11. Kemar Roach
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Grahaml » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:33 pm

whufc wrote:Im really excited about the West Indies chances this World Cup, i havent felt this amount of excitment for them in many years.

Any batting line up which includes Chris Gayle, Keiran Pollard, Dwayne Bravo, Ramnaresh Sarwan is capable of hitting 300 plus.

Watch for Darren Bravo this bloke is the next Bryan Lara, he is very very very good!!!!

I like the bowling line up as well with Roach they have an out and out quick, Darren Sammy provides line and length and in Suliman Benn and Chris Gayle they have 2 spinners who we will be able to get through 20 overs very quickly and sneak up on other teams.

For me their line up will be something like

1. Chris Gayle
2. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
3. Ramnaresh Sarwan
4. Darren Bravo
5. Dwayne Bravo
6. Keiran Pollard
7. Darren Sammy
8. Devon Thomas
9. Nikita Miller / R.Rampaul
10. Sulimann Benn
11. Kemar Roach


I don't mind their hitting power at all. Chanderpaul will be vital though to keep a steady head and try to keep Bravo/Pollard from coming in too early.

Their bowling looks ordinary to me. Roach has good pace, but if he doesn't fire it's hard to see where the wickets are going to come from.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby whufc » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:47 pm

Grahaml wrote:
whufc wrote:Im really excited about the West Indies chances this World Cup, i havent felt this amount of excitment for them in many years.

Any batting line up which includes Chris Gayle, Keiran Pollard, Dwayne Bravo, Ramnaresh Sarwan is capable of hitting 300 plus.

Watch for Darren Bravo this bloke is the next Bryan Lara, he is very very very good!!!!

I like the bowling line up as well with Roach they have an out and out quick, Darren Sammy provides line and length and in Suliman Benn and Chris Gayle they have 2 spinners who we will be able to get through 20 overs very quickly and sneak up on other teams.

For me their line up will be something like

1. Chris Gayle
2. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
3. Ramnaresh Sarwan
4. Darren Bravo
5. Dwayne Bravo
6. Keiran Pollard
7. Darren Sammy
8. Devon Thomas
9. Nikita Miller / R.Rampaul
10. Sulimann Benn
11. Kemar Roach


I don't mind their hitting power at all. Chanderpaul will be vital though to keep a steady head and try to keep Bravo/Pollard from coming in too early.

Their bowling looks ordinary to me. Roach has good pace, but if he doesn't fire it's hard to see where the wickets are going to come from.


Yeah i agree i think our bowling is more about Quantity rather than Quality, i think we will be using a real T20 feel about the way they bowl, with bowlers bowling lots of short spells lots of change up, hussling through the overs. Wouldnt be surprised to see Gayle open the bowling. If they can restrict teams to under 280-290 i think they will feel there in most matches.

Bowling wise they have

Roach
Miller/Rampaul
Sammy
Dw.Bravo
Benn
Gayle
Pollard
and possibly Sarwan
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby gadj1976 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:25 pm

If England falter, then they could make it through to the next stage. But I can't see them making the semi's unless a team bowls very poorly too them.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby whufc » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:28 pm

gadj1976 wrote:If England falter, then they could make it through to the next stage. But I can't see them making the semi's unless a team bowls very poorly too them.


Yep there batting is the key they will need 300+ to win most games.

I think they are capable of this

I love the balance they have between power hitters and workers of the ball

How many teams make it through to the next stage from each group, 2 or 4
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Grahaml » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:58 pm

whufc wrote:Yeah i agree i think our bowling is more about Quantity rather than Quality, i think we will be using a real T20 feel about the way they bowl, with bowlers bowling lots of short spells lots of change up, hussling through the overs. Wouldnt be surprised to see Gayle open the bowling. If they can restrict teams to under 280-290 i think they will feel there in most matches.

Bowling wise they have

Roach
Miller/Rampaul
Sammy
Dw.Bravo
Benn
Gayle
Pollard
and possibly Sarwan


Lol. How many foreign teams do you support? Melbourne Victory, Gold Coast and now West Indies?

I don't think that short spells with 7 bowlers is going to work in a 50 over game. It might work in T20 where a cheap over or two is massive, but in 50 overs I think the batsmen will pick off the bowlers more easily as the innings wears on.

Worry for me is who slows down a fast start? Roach goes for runs early who stop it? Bravo is the best death bowler so you don't want him bowling too much earlier (with PP overs you could easily expect him to bowl 4-5 overs in the last 10)

But in all honestly, you won't win a world cup if you concede 280-290 regularly. You need to keep teams down to 250 or lower most of the time.
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