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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby NFC » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:02 pm

Killa wrote:I don't think ronchi is the best option because keeping work is not up to it. At the moment payne and manou is the best option on form.

Ronchi is the most overrated player in Australia.
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:11 pm

Agreed NFC. Paine has him covered IMO.

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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby CoverKing » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:20 am

If haddin was to miss a test the candidates are:
Luke Ronchi (27years old) - 32 first class matches (4 dayers) batting average of 35.11
Tim Paine (23) - 22 matches at 30.03
Graham Manou (29) - 79 matches at 22.48
Adam Crosthwaith (24) - 24 matches at 22.09
Matthew Wade (21) - 12 matches at 24.13
Chris Hartley (26) - 40 matches at 25.39
Brad Haddin's record (31) - 5 tests average of 33.13... 96 first class matches at 41.03

and for the record adam gilchrists record was - 190 first class matches batting average of 44.16 but the site obviously includes his test matches which he has an average of 47 so his first class average would be approximately 41 or thereabouts..

From this the best wicketkeeper/batsman (which they will pick it on because gilchrist has changed the way selection is looked at), IMHO would be one of three choices, Luke Ronchi as he has the best record, Tim Paine because he has a steady record over 22 matches and has talent to burn, and is only 23 years old, or Matthew Wade because i think he also has amazing talent and is only 21 years old. Graham Manou wont get a gig because his record over 79 matches is not good enough, crosthwaith is the same and hartley can not be a quality number 7 for australia.
My personal pick would be Paine because we could set him up for a ten year international career, he can play in both forms of the game but in test cricket, he will be able to play cameos or knuckle down and score a fighting hundred. He is only 23 and is the future, but also the present if Haddin fails to keep his fitness. Wat do others think??
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby bulldogs » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:26 am

How can Cam white play for Aussies. bowled 80 overs for Vics last year and now he is the frontline spinner against the best players of spin in the world on there own decks. wake up selectors and pick a decent side.poor poor poor poor
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby CoverKing » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:33 am

bulldogs wrote:How can Cam white play for Aussies. bowled 80 overs for Vics last year and now he is the frontline spinner against the best players of spin in the world on there own decks. wake up selectors and pick a decent side.poor poor poor poor


look at the quality of spinners for australia, there is not much too choose from.. Once again cameron white got a wicket today and given not out. another umpiring blunder. the umpiring standards have dropped dramatically but not more use of technology. its only a matter of time
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby bulldogs » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:54 am

CoverKing wrote:
bulldogs wrote:How can Cam white play for Aussies. bowled 80 overs for Vics last year and now he is the frontline spinner against the best players of spin in the world on there own decks. wake up selectors and pick a decent side.poor poor poor poor


look at the quality of spinners for australia, there is not much too choose from.. Once again cameron white got a wicket today and given not out. another umpiring blunder. the umpiring standards have dropped dramatically but not more use of technology. its only a matter of time

he aint the answer.
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby rod_rooster » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:27 am

Well this is just plain ridiculous:

Fox Sports wrote:"After considering the evidence, Broad found Watson guilty of verbally engaging with Gambhir in a manner that was not in keeping with the spirit of cricket," the International Cricket Council said in a statement.


from http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,,24579980-23209,00.html

I'll be very interested in the punishment handed out to Gambhir. It better be a whole lot more severe. Really feel for Watto here. Had Gambhir not gone out of his way to make physical contact with him nothing would have come of this at all.

Gambhir, good player, bad bloke. This is not the first time he's been involved in a simialr incident by the way.
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby MAY-Z » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:50 am

rod_rooster wrote:Well this is just plain ridiculous:

Fox Sports wrote:"After considering the evidence, Broad found Watson guilty of verbally engaging with Gambhir in a manner that was not in keeping with the spirit of cricket," the International Cricket Council said in a statement.


from http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,,24579980-23209,00.html

I'll be very interested in the punishment handed out to Gambhir. It better be a whole lot more severe. Really feel for Watto here. Had Gambhir not gone out of his way to make physical contact with him nothing would have come of this at all.

Gambhir, good player, bad bloke. This is not the first time he's been involved in a simialr incident by the way.


ok as you asked for earlier i will give my opinion - personally i thought there was nothing in the incident and it should be play on - watson was pretty much in the way of gambhir on purpose - as the 2 had had some words earlier - which again should be play on - watson clearly knew he was in the way because gambhir went past him for the first run, so then when h was on the way back for the second watson shouldve had tome to get out the way - i dont think there was anything to malicious in the incidents though so the icc should just let it be and focus on teh importnant matters in test cricket such as the continually terrible slow overrates
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby Drop Bear » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:21 am

rod_rooster wrote: Gambhir, good player, bad bloke. This is not the first time he's been involved in a simialr incident by the way.


The umpires should just wave the arms and call play on. Cricket is becoming to over sensitive, especially India v Australia.
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby Drop Bear » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:27 am

NFC wrote:We'll lose this match by an innings, count on it.

Pathetic stuff.


At least let us bat out our 1st innings before you write us off. Have faith brother.
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby Ned » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:12 pm

bulldogs wrote:
CoverKing wrote:
bulldogs wrote:How can Cam white play for Aussies. bowled 80 overs for Vics last year and now he is the frontline spinner against the best players of spin in the world on there own decks. wake up selectors and pick a decent side.poor poor poor poor


look at the quality of spinners for australia, there is not much too choose from.. Once again cameron white got a wicket today and given not out. another umpiring blunder. the umpiring standards have dropped dramatically but not more use of technology. its only a matter of time

he aint the answer.


There is no spinner in Oz at the moment who is test standard, White only bowled 80 overs last year because he was coming off a broken foot. He is not the top spin bowler for Vic, he is there captain who bats 5 and may bowl a few overs if needed. Im hoping this tour will not hurt him mentally he is a vey good batsmen who I hope one day will cement the number 6 spot in a andrew symonds type role, very attacking batsmen, brillant fielder, great cricket brain and can bowl a little bit if needed.
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby bulldogs » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:00 pm

Ned wrote:
bulldogs wrote:
CoverKing wrote:
bulldogs wrote:How can Cam white play for Aussies. bowled 80 overs for Vics last year and now he is the frontline spinner against the best players of spin in the world on there own decks. wake up selectors and pick a decent side.poor poor poor poor


look at the quality of spinners for australia, there is not much too choose from.. Once again cameron white got a wicket today and given not out. another umpiring blunder. the umpiring standards have dropped dramatically but not more use of technology. its only a matter of time

he aint the answer.


There is no spinner in Oz at the moment who is test standard, White only bowled 80 overs last year because he was coming off a broken foot. He is not the top spin bowler for Vic, he is there captain who bats 5 and may bowl a few overs if needed. Im hoping this tour will not hurt him mentally he is a vey good batsmen who I hope one day will cement the number 6 spot in a andrew symonds type role, very attacking batsmen, brillant fielder, great cricket brain and can bowl a little bit if needed.

cant bowl.Oz need to pick there best 6 batsman not bits and pieces
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby Booney » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:17 pm

That may or may not be the case,but if we pick 6 batsmen we find ourselves short of bowlers and you need to take 20 wickets to win a test. Just relying on making tons of runs gets you no closer to a win. Wickets mate,wickets.

I think B.Lee needs to tone down his off field and T20 commitments as now he is our front line strike bowler we need him to be as close to 100% as he can be as often as he can be. This tour he has looked down right flat IMO.
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby bulldogs » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:31 pm

Booney wrote:That may or may not be the case,but if we pick 6 batsmen we find ourselves short of bowlers and you need to take 20 wickets to win a test. Just relying on making tons of runs gets you no closer to a win. Wickets mate,wickets.

I think B.Lee needs to tone down his off field and T20 commitments as now he is our front line strike bowler we need him to be as close to 100% as he can be as often as he can be. This tour he has looked down right flat IMO.

yes i agree with your comment wickets win test matches but the alrounder must be up to taking them othrwise play your 6 batsman and give the ball to M.Clarke, Katich, Ponting Hussey they will do as good as job as white and then you can play your 4 front line bowlers. makes for a much more settled side.
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:48 pm

Booney wrote:That may or may not be the case,but if we pick 6 batsmen we find ourselves short of bowlers and you need to take 20 wickets to win a test. Just relying on making tons of runs gets you no closer to a win. Wickets mate,wickets.



So that's why they picked White.

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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby silicone skyline » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:52 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Booney wrote:That may or may not be the case,but if we pick 6 batsmen we find ourselves short of bowlers and you need to take 20 wickets to win a test. Just relying on making tons of runs gets you no closer to a win. Wickets mate,wickets.



So that's why they picked White.

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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby silicone skyline » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:13 pm

Touch wood here, but Aussies batting well with none down and Katich bringing up 50.

India will do well to bowl AUS out twice on this deck. [-o<
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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby Drop Bear » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:31 pm

silicone skyline wrote:Touch wood here, but Aussies batting well with none down and Katich bringing up 50.

India will do well to bowl AUS out twice on this deck. [-o<


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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby locky801 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:32 pm

Been a while since the Aussies had two double centuries made against them in the one innings I would think

Aust at the minute

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Re: 3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

Postby Drop Bear » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:34 pm

locky801 wrote:Been a while since the Aussies had two double centuries made against them in the one innings I would think

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