Gilchrist - A Cheat??

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Postby heater31 » Mon May 07, 2007 7:28 pm

Grahaml wrote:Not sure why it seems to have been missed, but one of the blogs actually answers the question. In regards to equipment, there is no mention of the batsman's gloves having to conform to a standard. They list stumps, balls, bats et al yet no mention of gloves. And I'm 100% sure the umpires never ask what a glove is made of. My conclusion is that since there is no law declaring this illegal, there is nothing wrong with doing it. It also says about umpires being satisfied. This means if the umpires allow it, it's allowed so long as the ICC haven't issued a ban before the game. I think the short answer is, with no rule existing defining the material and dimensions of gloves, you can make them out of anything. And with no rule saying what you can and can't put inside your gloves (inners, bandaged, splints etc being used commonly) what grounds could they have to dispute the legality of putting a squash ball in a glove?



the only gloves mentioned in the laws of cricket are the wicket keeper's gloves specifically in relation to the size of the webbing between the thumb and index finger. Only became aware of this rule when an umpire gave a warning to our keeper and a request to buy a new set of gloves
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Postby power01 » Mon May 07, 2007 10:12 pm

BPBRB wrote:No different than other batsman having their palms taped, then putting on a pair of thinner inner gloves - much the same as wicket keepers do, to absord the shock of the bat making contact. :shock: All the half a sqaush ball did was stop his hand rotating when his bat was swinging! He could have put a folded up hanky in there for the same effect.

:evil: :evil: FFS those curry munching murdering match fixing corrupt cheats from the sub continent have sunk to an all time low with this one yet they cry and threaten umpries and and refuse to play in Australia if anyone questions that "chucker" who sadly will hold the all time wicket taking record shortly. No wonder Murali smiles all the time because he knows he is cheating and is getting away with it. It is reverse racism because he is an asian with black skin. If a white bloke chucked like him they would have been out of international cricket years ago.

I say bring them down to Australia for a 4 test series playing 2 tests on each of the Gabba and the WACA and open our bowling attack with Tait and Lee and dish up some "serious chin" music to the whinging losers. Some idiot on one of those Cricket forums thinks it is unsporting and illegal that our aggresive Aussie bowlers always target the rib cage area! FFS!!


To those stupid one eyed fantical lovers of Murali I hope you spent the aid dollars sent to your country after the Tsunami wisely. If there is any left over go and buy yourselves a some brains, common sense and sportsmanship and learn how to be gracious losers.

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Now tell us how u really feel..... :lol:
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Postby BPBRB » Tue May 08, 2007 11:31 am

power01 wrote: Now tell us how u really feel..... :lol:


Sorry for holding back and not being clear - I'll try harder next time! :lol: :lol:
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Postby Grahaml » Tue May 08, 2007 1:40 pm

Exactly right Heater. You can't break a rule that doesn't exist. I can't believe this was even in today's paper. This thought deserves only to be a rant on a forum like this, not given credibility by someone making money out of printing it.
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Postby Booney » Tue May 08, 2007 2:56 pm

heater31 wrote:If Gilly's a cheat then Murali is a f**king chucka



When I bat I wear batting inners am I a cheat ???????


Nope,you're a dreamer.You think you are going to be out there long enough to sweat up a pair of gloves? :lol:
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Postby Jimmy » Wed May 09, 2007 3:40 am

i just wanna know how the hell you can hold the bat with a squash ball in your glove???? how the fk did he do that....he deserved more medals for that feat alone...

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Postby MAY-Z » Wed May 09, 2007 9:46 am

personally i dont agree with him doing this as he is obviously doing it to help his batting. wht options do bowlers have to try and artificially improve their perfomance? none, just another way to make the game more batter friendly
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Postby devilsadvocate » Wed May 09, 2007 11:51 am

I was redoing my garden with straw and came out after break to find all of the said straw missing..........turns out those dirty curry munchers were grasping at it.
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Postby Grahaml » Wed May 09, 2007 3:05 pm

What do bowlers do to artificially imrove their performance? Get the fieldsmen to throw the ball into the ground to try to firstly soften the ball up so it's harder to hit, dirsty the ball so it's harder to see and help with reverse swing. If Gilchrist had a large patch of rubber built into the glove in the right spot it would have the same result but be a physical part of the glove. Would that help alleviate your angst, MAY-Z?
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Postby MAY-Z » Thu May 10, 2007 9:49 am

Grahaml wrote:What do bowlers do to artificially imrove their performance? Get the fieldsmen to throw the ball into the ground to try to firstly soften the ball up so it's harder to hit, dirsty the ball so it's harder to see and help with reverse swing. If Gilchrist had a large patch of rubber built into the glove in the right spot it would have the same result but be a physical part of the glove. Would that help alleviate your angst, MAY-Z?


the umpires change the ball very regularly now as soon as the batsmen misstime a shot it get changed so the throwing into the ground isnt really an issue
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Postby scoob » Thu May 10, 2007 10:37 am

MAY-Z wrote:
Grahaml wrote:What do bowlers do to artificially imrove their performance? Get the fieldsmen to throw the ball into the ground to try to firstly soften the ball up so it's harder to hit, dirsty the ball so it's harder to see and help with reverse swing. If Gilchrist had a large patch of rubber built into the glove in the right spot it would have the same result but be a physical part of the glove. Would that help alleviate your angst, MAY-Z?


the umpires change the ball very regularly now as soon as the batsmen misstime a shot it get changed so the throwing into the ground isnt really an issue


So you dont agree with putting sweat on the ball to help it swing?
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Postby Grahaml » Thu May 10, 2007 3:13 pm

If it wasn't really an issue then they wouldn't do it. Obviously they think it gives them an advantage otherwise they wouldn't do it. However you try to defend it, uit's a way the bowlers "artificially" improve their performance. And as Scoob says, polishing a ball is another "artificial" improvement. And dare we say it, but most bowlers are chucking the ball now. The ICC gives them 15 degrees so many of them are taking their full 15. Shaun Tait wouldn't be as quick as he is without the elbow flick he puts in (I wince watching slow mo of him and Brett Lee), Murali can't bowl the doosra without a 14 degree bend apparently and most young bowlers are adding this to their repetoire. In the end, we have several different manners in which a bowler can assist their bowling while 1 batsman has come up with 1 way to help his batting. Does that make it more of a batsman's game or is it changing the balance.

BTW, if it was getting more and more a batsman's game then why aren't we seeing more draws? We're getting less draws being played out these days than any other time post war.
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Postby MAY-Z » Fri May 11, 2007 9:52 am

scoob wrote:
MAY-Z wrote:
Grahaml wrote:What do bowlers do to artificially imrove their performance? Get the fieldsmen to throw the ball into the ground to try to firstly soften the ball up so it's harder to hit, dirsty the ball so it's harder to see and help with reverse swing. If Gilchrist had a large patch of rubber built into the glove in the right spot it would have the same result but be a physical part of the glove. Would that help alleviate your angst, MAY-Z?


the umpires change the ball very regularly now as soon as the batsmen misstime a shot it get changed so the throwing into the ground isnt really an issue


So you dont agree with putting sweat on the ball to help it swing?


umm people naturally sweat, i havent seen many people naturally born with a squash ball in their hand
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Postby Rik E Boy » Fri May 11, 2007 3:53 pm

Grahaml wrote:What do bowlers do to artificially imrove their performance? Get the fieldsmen to throw the ball into the ground to try to firstly soften the ball up so it's harder to hit, dirsty the ball so it's harder to see and help with reverse swing. If Gilchrist had a large patch of rubber built into the glove in the right spot it would have the same result but be a physical part of the glove. Would that help alleviate your angst, MAY-Z?


You cannot alleviate Maysie's angst as he cannot come to terms with our irrefutable prominence in World Cricket. Maysie problem is always going to be about this..

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If some county hack had put a squash ball inside his glove this circus clown would be on here praising the innovation of the county circuit and how it never fails to produce an unerring production line of platinum Test cricketers for England.

We are number one
County cricket is where our Shield players earn easy cash
You are our bitches
We are number one

Suck it up and come back for more.

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Postby mal » Fri May 11, 2007 4:21 pm

I cheated once, I put a bandaid on my 3rd finger around the knuckle
as I cut it that morning and I went out and batted that day....

I would be more concerned about the manufacturing of cricket bats
these days as against bandaids and squash balls used in cricket
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Postby MAY-Z » Fri May 11, 2007 4:49 pm

Reb cricket is the one sport in i which I don’t actively follow one side passionately I jut like to see a fair contest and I respect all competitors unlike yourself.

Batsmen get far to may advantages in the currnet game and it is a good point you raised their mal- a couple of years ago in a b grade district match our opening bowling had a band aid on his bowling hand and was forced to remove it as the batsmen believed it may have improved his grip on the ball and thus was unfair, even last year I was forced by the umpire to bowl with my shirt tucked in as if my shirt moved too much when the wind blew it may put the batsmen off
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Postby mal » Fri May 11, 2007 5:09 pm

I had the same problem when I bowled with my shirt out
The sight of my guts flopping put the batsman off
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri May 11, 2007 5:33 pm

mal wrote:I had the same problem when I bowled with my shirt out
The sight of my guts flopping put the batsman off


and if it was a sunny day then the sun reflecting off the white skin made it awfully hard to see the ball.........it was as if the side-screen was bowling....
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Postby mal » Fri May 11, 2007 7:09 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
mal wrote:I had the same problem when I bowled with my shirt out
The sight of my guts flopping put the batsman off


and if it was a sunny day then the sun reflecting off the white skin made it awfully hard to see the ball.........it was as if the side-screen was bowling....


YEAH AND YOUR OLD CRICKET SHIRT IS NOW USED AS A CIRCUS TENT
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Postby scoob » Fri May 11, 2007 9:07 pm

MAY-Z wrote:
scoob wrote:
MAY-Z wrote:
Grahaml wrote:What do bowlers do to artificially imrove their performance? Get the fieldsmen to throw the ball into the ground to try to firstly soften the ball up so it's harder to hit, dirsty the ball so it's harder to see and help with reverse swing. If Gilchrist had a large patch of rubber built into the glove in the right spot it would have the same result but be a physical part of the glove. Would that help alleviate your angst, MAY-Z?


the umpires change the ball very regularly now as soon as the batsmen misstime a shot it get changed so the throwing into the ground isnt really an issue


So you dont agree with putting sweat on the ball to help it swing?


umm people naturally sweat, i havent seen many people naturally born with a squash ball in their hand


Yeah you are right, Gilchrist is a down right cheat!
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