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Postby Grahaml » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:14 am

And I thought the same about Michael Bevan. Poor man's Darren Lehmann as far as I'm concerned. If you want to compare records between Bevan and Pietersen it's pretty similar. Bevan was a small target specialist, but wasn't anywhere near as useful posting a score unless you were up the s#@t. These days with scores of 260 a minimum he wouldn't play anywhere near as much for Australia.
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Postby blink » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:58 pm

I agree with Mal here, KP is very very good. On current form at the moment, only Ponting and possibly Hayden are better.

He plays excellent cricket against Australia on the biggest stages (World Cup & The Ashes) and for those of you who call that choking, I have no idea why.
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Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:35 pm

blink wrote:I agree with Mal here, KP is very very good. On current form at the moment, only Ponting and possibly Hayden are better.

He plays excellent cricket against Australia on the biggest stages (World Cup & The Ashes) and for those of you who call that choking, I have no idea why.


Who called KP a choker Billy? I just said he is overrated. Just because he is South African doesn't make him a choker :wink:

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Postby blink » Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:05 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:but surely failing by KP's standard would be making less then 100 but getting to 50 as he is the WORLDS BEST choker


I agree REB he is slightly overrated, but no more than slightly! He is one of the top 4 ODI batsmen at the moment.
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Postby Maddogmike » Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:53 pm

He is going to be englands gun for the next decade. They need him to fire to consistently perform well as a team.
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Postby rod_rooster » Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:52 pm

Maddogmike wrote:He is going to be englands gun for the next decade. They need him to fire to consistently perform well as a team.


Don't think for the next decade mad dog. In ten years time he will be well and truly finished.
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Postby Grahaml » Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:52 pm

I think he'll be a fixture in England's team for at least 10 years. I also think he'll end up with a test average of more than 45, and ODI average of more than 40. I just hope he stops hiding a spot too low in the order and learns that winning is #1. Of course, if he doesn't at least it'll mean Australia will always have the wood over him in the long run.
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Postby rod_rooster » Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:24 am

Grahaml wrote:I think he'll be a fixture in England's team for at least 10 years. I also think he'll end up with a test average of more than 45, and ODI average of more than 40. I just hope he stops hiding a spot too low in the order and learns that winning is #1. Of course, if he doesn't at least it'll mean Australia will always have the wood over him in the long run.


In 10 years time he'll be 37. Not too many 37 year olds going round nowadays and there will be even less by 2017.
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Postby Grahaml » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:37 pm

No, not too many do, but most of the really talented ones do.
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Postby Dissident » Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:05 pm

KP is a good batsman and can change a game.

Pity I hate watching him bat. I really can't stand his style at all. And 85% of this shots are off the front foot. He lets a lot of balls go because they aren't easy to hit on the front foot.

IMHO, very very effective batsman, ugly to watch.
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:06 pm

when the pressures on where does KP go, either back to the dressing room or down to the non-strikers end
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Postby Maddogmike » Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:01 pm

Oh dear - its a pity in Australia we dont get coverage of some of the Englad summer tests. Last summer his 140 odd against Sri Lanka at Edgbaston was some of the best batting I have ever seen. He reverse swept Murali 1 handed for 6.

I dont see how you can say his style is ugly? Surely it is just different to that of what we are used to. There was a really good article on him in the Australian magazine just as the Ashes started and the amount of hard work he put in to get where he is and the crap he was up against.
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Postby Maddogmike » Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:03 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:when the pressures on where does KP go, either back to the dressing room or down to the non-strikers end


MT79 - I think you will find most coaches would tell you to rotate the strike and take the pressure off you and your partner by "getting down the other end" Its a bit hard to understand the game from your armchair I suppose.
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Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:35 am

Maddogmike wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:when the pressures on where does KP go, either back to the dressing room or down to the non-strikers end


MT79 - I think you will find most coaches would tell you to rotate the strike and take the pressure off you and your partner by "getting down the other end" Its a bit hard to understand the game from your armchair I suppose.


OUCH. Yep, you can't beat the non-strikers end when the bowling gets a bit quick. Love those singles!

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PS - KP 10 against the gun Bangers attack last night :wink:
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Postby mal » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:50 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
Maddogmike wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:when the pressures on where does KP go, either back to the dressing room or down to the non-strikers end


MT79 - I think you will find most coaches would tell you to rotate the strike and take the pressure off you and your partner by "getting down the other end" Its a bit hard to understand the game from your armchair I suppose.


OUCH. Yep, you can't beat the non-strikers end when the bowling gets a bit quick. Love those singles!

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PS - KP 10 against the gun Bangers attack last night :wink:


PS Why dont you put up all of his innings.
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Postby Stumps » Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:31 am

KP is a superstar IMHO, he is technically "different" but to me (and im sure many others) that is what is exciting about him. I think people dont realise how hard it is to have a lengthy lay off from cricket- like pieterson did with his ribs- and come back and perform at international level from the word go (60 or 70 first up in the world cup if i remember correctly)- it is for this reason I wouldnt have brought symonds back in I wouldve stayed with hodge (until watson eventually went down).

I agree KP batted a bit slow the other night but he needed someone at the other end helping him out, he is a star but hes not houdini- that is the aussies strength, if one bloke is in trouble- another will take the reigns for 20 min til he gets a loose one to get him going.

The man is a gun, he looks and carries himself like a complete tosser, but he is a gun (IMHO)
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Postby blink » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:38 am

The way Pietersen carries himself is in most part, the cause of the huge amount of detractors he has.

Off the field (occasionaly on), he almost seems to act more like a Premier League player rather than an international cricketer.

Having said that, I do rate him as a player - as mentioned above. The way he treated Warne and Murali in some of his innings was nothing short of amazing and remember he was doing that to two bowlers who have taken nearly 1400 Test wickets between them.
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Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:41 am

mal wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
Maddogmike wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:when the pressures on where does KP go, either back to the dressing room or down to the non-strikers end


MT79 - I think you will find most coaches would tell you to rotate the strike and take the pressure off you and your partner by "getting down the other end" Its a bit hard to understand the game from your armchair I suppose.


OUCH. Yep, you can't beat the non-strikers end when the bowling gets a bit quick. Love those singles!

regards,

REB

PS - KP 10 against the gun Bangers attack last night :wink:


PS Why dont you put up all of his innings.


ps - why don't you take his poster off your ceiling :wink:

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Postby Dogwatcher » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:54 am

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Postby mal » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:58 pm

blink wrote:The way Pietersen carries himself is in most part, the cause of the huge amount of detractors he has.

Off the field (occasionaly on), he almost seems to act more like a Premier League player rather than an international cricketer.

Having said that, I do rate him as a player - as mentioned above. The way he treated Warne and Murali in some of his innings was nothing short of amazing and remember he was doing that to two bowlers who have taken nearly 1400 Test wickets between them.


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