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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Bulls forever » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:00 pm

pipers wrote:
smac wrote:Every thought of being on the Grade Cricket Committee? You'd fit right in.


Not really, means I'd probably have to deal with people like you.


Don't associate SMAC with the Grade Cricket Committee please Pipers.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby pipers » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:00 am

UK Fan wrote:I did mention The cost rise about a year ago(saca members were shown the price ranges) and was told I was selfish and holding the state back.



We weren't shown $1000/pa !!! We were told an "ultimate" membership would be about the same cost as the current SACA/SANFL memberships combined.

Not that I actually want an ultimate membership anyway, but that is beside the point.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby pipers » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:04 am

Bulls forever wrote:And there I was thinking I might have to sit next to Pipers and UK Fan at the cricket and listen to them whinge all day, thankfully now that will not happen


Indeed - you will probably have to stand up, as the money is drying up faster than the oval's centre wicket and we'll be lucky to get some army disposal tents and church pews...

State of the art. Ha!

More like state of the arse!



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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby UK Fan » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:50 pm

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UK Fan wrote:I did mention The cost rise about a year ago(saca members were shown the price ranges) and was told I was selfish and holding the state back.



We weren't shown $1000/pa !!! We were told an "ultimate" membership would be about the same cost as the current SACA/SANFL memberships combined.

Not that I actually want an ultimate membership anyway, but that is beside the point.



SACA members were told and voted on prices for available packages.

$900 - $1000 for an ultimate package was always quoted thru out the survey.

I always found it interesting that non saca members could 100% guarantee Adelaide ovals success without knowing about the cost of attending. Which you would think would be a vital bit of info to know before making a guarantee for success .

I pointed out the cost and was told people would be selfish to put their families budget over attending afl games.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby pipers » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:06 pm

UK Fan wrote:SACA members were told and voted on prices for available packages.


I'm a SACA member. No we weren't.

UK Fan wrote:$900 - $1000 for an ultimate package was always quoted thru out the survey.


No it wasn't.

UK Fan wrote:I always found it interesting that non saca members could 100% guarantee Adelaide ovals success without knowing about the cost of attending. Which you would think would be a vital bit of info to know before making a guarantee for success.

I pointed out the cost and was told people would be selfish to put their families budget over attending afl games.


The projections for income etc were pure speculation, based on undeliverable assumptions such as 35K+ crowds, more internatonal cricket and regular Socceroos games at the venue.

Ever wonder why the key funder was the government??? Private enterprise wouldn't buy that type of horsesh!t.

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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby heater31 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:20 pm

For some reason the $900 figure sticks in my mind. I wrote in the survey to go jump in the lake....
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby UK Fan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:52 pm

pipers wrote:
UK Fan wrote:SACA members were told and voted on prices for available packages.


I'm a SACA member. No we weren't.

UK Fan wrote:$900 - $1000 for an ultimate package was always quoted thru out the survey.


No it wasn't.

UK Fan wrote:I always found it interesting that non saca members could 100% guarantee Adelaide ovals success without knowing about the cost of attending. Which you would think would be a vital bit of info to know before making a guarantee for success.

I pointed out the cost and was told people would be selfish to put their families budget over attending afl games.


The projections for income etc were pure speculation, based on undeliverable assumptions such as 35K+ crowds, more internatonal cricket and regular Socceroos games at the venue.

Ever wonder why the key funder was the government??? Private enterprise wouldn't buy that type of horsesh!t.

Proud to be amongst the 18% who voted no!



Pipers saca members were e-mailed a survey on preferred membership offerings/structures/pricings before the election

The ultimate package was quoted as $900 - $1000.

I did mention the price increase and was told it was irrelevant and people would have to be pretty selfish to not go due to price.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby pipers » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:35 pm

UK Fan wrote:Pipers saca members were e-mailed a survey on preferred membership offerings/structures/pricings before the election

The ultimate package was quoted as $900 - $1000.

I did mention the price increase and was told it was irrelevant and people would have to be pretty selfish to not go due to price.


Ah, you were talking about the market research survey which was conducted, the results of which allegedly informed the proposal put to members for the vote.

A few things...

1) a market research survey is somewhat different from a vote
2) the results of that survey were never made public
3) the estimated prices quoted in the pre-vote marerials were exactly as I quoted above, and at no time was $900-$1000 mentioned
4) in my response to the survey, I very strongly indicated that any increase to prices was not acceptable to me, given I was really only interested in the cricket

And here is an interesting article: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/na ... 6464309181
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby whufc » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:12 pm

Darren Chandler is part of the SMA so AO is now truly F****D!!!!
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby UK Fan » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:33 pm

pipers wrote:
UK Fan wrote:Pipers saca members were e-mailed a survey on preferred membership offerings/structures/pricings before the election

The ultimate package was quoted as $900 - $1000.

I did mention the price increase and was told it was irrelevant and people would have to be pretty selfish to not go due to price.


Ah, you were talking about the market research survey which was conducted, the results of which allegedly informed the proposal put to members for the vote.

A few things...

1) a market research survey is somewhat different from a vote
2) the results of that survey were never made public
3) the estimated prices quoted in the pre-vote marerials were exactly as I quoted above, and at no time was $900-$1000 mentioned
4) in my response to the survey, I very strongly indicated that any increase to prices was not acceptable to me, given I was really only interested in the cricket

And here is an interesting article: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/na ... 6464309181



Yes it was.

Even heater commented at the $900- price for ultimate package quoted in the survey!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby heater31 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:37 pm

UK Fan wrote:
pipers wrote:
UK Fan wrote:Pipers saca members were e-mailed a survey on preferred membership offerings/structures/pricings before the election

The ultimate package was quoted as $900 - $1000.

I did mention the price increase and was told it was irrelevant and people would have to be pretty selfish to not go due to price.


Ah, you were talking about the market research survey which was conducted, the results of which allegedly informed the proposal put to members for the vote.

A few things...

1) a market research survey is somewhat different from a vote
2) the results of that survey were never made public
3) the estimated prices quoted in the pre-vote marerials were exactly as I quoted above, and at no time was $900-$1000 mentioned
4) in my response to the survey, I very strongly indicated that any increase to prices was not acceptable to me, given I was really only interested in the cricket

And here is an interesting article: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/na ... 6464309181



Yes it was.

Even heater commented at the $900- price for ultimate package quoted in the survey!!!!!!!!!!!!



I can't recall the exact price but the full option was a ridiculous figure and was most certainly more that currently purchasing a SACA and Ultimate SANFL memberships combined.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby UK Fan » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:52 pm

heater31 wrote:
UK Fan wrote:
pipers wrote:
UK Fan wrote:Pipers saca members were e-mailed a survey on preferred membership offerings/structures/pricings before the election

The ultimate package was quoted as $900 - $1000.

I did mention the price increase and was told it was irrelevant and people would have to be pretty selfish to not go due to price.


Ah, you were talking about the market research survey which was conducted, the results of which allegedly informed the proposal put to members for the vote.

A few things...

1) a market research survey is somewhat different from a vote
2) the results of that survey were never made public
3) the estimated prices quoted in the pre-vote marerials were exactly as I quoted above, and at no time was $900-$1000 mentioned
4) in my response to the survey, I very strongly indicated that any increase to prices was not acceptable to me, given I was really only interested in the cricket

And here is an interesting article: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/na ... 6464309181



Yes it was.

Even heater commented at the $900- price for ultimate package quoted in the survey!!!!!!!!!!!!



I can't recall the exact price but the full option was a ridiculous figure and was most certainly more that currently purchasing a SACA and Ultimate SANFL memberships combined.


Exactly. We even brought it up as a reason to vote NO.

How did you think the gov was going to recoup $565 mill ????

Anyway we are just being selfish to consider price apparently.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Dutchy » Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:03 am

Bulls forever wrote:And there I was thinking I might have to sit next to Pipers and UK Fan at the cricket and listen to them whinge all day, thankfully now that will not happen and the true fans of cricket and footy in the State can enjoy what is going to be an outstanding facility


All 31,000 of them in their biggest game of the year???? Not to mention Ports 13,000 they draw to home games. :oops:

What a great decision.... :roll:
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby UK Fan » Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:51 am

Dutchy wrote:
Bulls forever wrote:And there I was thinking I might have to sit next to Pipers and UK Fan at the cricket and listen to them whinge all day, thankfully now that will not happen and the true fans of cricket and footy in the State can enjoy what is going to be an outstanding facility


All 31,000 of them in their biggest game of the year???? Not to mention Ports 13,000 they draw to home games. :oops:

What a great decision.... :roll:


Sanfl gf will attract more people than 31000. Bwwwaahhhhh!!!

What a waste.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby UK Fan » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:12 am

Ultimate membership also has a once off $75 registration fee.

So it will be in excess of $1000.

Approx $1700-$1800 for a couple per year.


OUCH!!!
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby heater31 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:17 am

UK Fan wrote:Ultimate membership also has a once off $75 registration fee.

So it will be in excess of $1000.

Approx $1700-$1800 for a couple per year.


OUCH!!!


Got the email yesterday SACA members only get 6000 odd places as well :shock:
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Dutchy » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:32 am

:shock:

$75 non refundable registration fee that does not ensure you get a membership!!!! Even if only 5000 members register that is $375,000, WTF?????

Can anyone explain to me what a 50+ SACA member is?????

Important update about the Ultimate Membership offer at Adelaide Oval
Dear Member
Registration for Ultimate Memberships at Adelaide Oval will soon open.
On 31 October 2012, newly appointed Chief Executive of the Adelaide Oval SMA Ltd (AOSMA), Andrew Daniels, will launch the Authority and unveil details about its membership packages including the combined cricket and football membership – the Ultimate membership.
On 31 October 2012, AOSMA (via SACA) will be posting all SACA Members a brochure containing information about the future of Adelaide Oval and the Ultimate Membership.
A letter will accompany the brochure containing all of the information you will need to register your interest in securing an Ultimate Membership.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby valleys07 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:39 am

Dutchy wrote:Can anyone explain to me what a 50+ SACA member is?????


I would assume its like the RAA.....membership for 50+ consecutive years?
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby heater31 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:42 am

Dutchy wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what a 50+ SACA member is?????


50 years of continuous SACA membership. They get a function every year and reserved seating in front of the new dining room at the Test match....
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Dutchy » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:53 am

Ah OK, be nice if they explained that, I thought initially it was any member over 50!
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