Big Bash a Big Blunder ?

[mal]

What seems lost on most of you is that you aren't the target audience. CA is seeking new audiences with the BBL.

It will fund first class cricket so I hope it succeeds.

Move over all of us old farts
This is the new cricket for the new generation
Its putting bums on seats
Thats what the ACB want
Thats what Smac has posted
Thats what I understand had to happen

[mal]

They were expecting 50 odd thousand tonight.

They got 23.

Disaster so far.

Just how can this be a disaster
Im confused
23k at a Domestic game of cricket is sensational
How many people go to domestic Sheffield Shield games ?

I went to a SA V QL Sheffield Shield game recently and about 500 of us rolled up for the day
How many are gunna roll up at the 20/20 game Sunday evening
If its less than 500 I will never ever post on SAFOOTY ever again

In the late 1970s Mr Kerry Packer and his so called circus played one day pyjama cricket
The traditionalists mocked it back then
The new generation of teenagers like myself and my mates went to these games
It was exciting
Hec I was only 19, I even flew over to Melbourne to watch a game

20/20 is here to stay
The young kids luv it
Some of these kids wont get to the grounds
and its becoz of parents boycotting the new venture

[stampy]

and doctor can you tell me why i still cant get to sleep

[heater31]

Not a very Good Start if they are getting half the crowds that they were expecting.


Also not a good sign that none of the Franchises could attract private investment. Perhaps Australia has missed the boat with this type of competition as the potential investors have witnessed the massive $$$ handed over for the Indian version and most of those are yet to see any return for their outlay.

[NFC]

They were expecting 50 odd thousand tonight.

They got 23.

Disaster so far.

You expected to not be a virgin at your age. Can't all be winners.

What the????

[Coach Bombay]

I think your all trying to over analyse it. Just sit back and enjoy it. Can't wait for tonight.

[MAY-Z]

What seems lost on most of you is that you aren't the target audience. CA is seeking new audiences with the BBL.

It will fund first class cricket so I hope it succeeds.

so the 23,500 that turned up last night have never been the cricket before and wouldnt have gone if the game was vic vs nsw?

[MAY-Z]

They were expecting 50 odd thousand tonight.

They got 23.

Disaster so far.

Just how can this be a disaster
Im confused
23k at a Domestic game of cricket is sensational
How many people go to domestic Sheffield Shield games ?

I went to a SA V QL Sheffield Shield game recently and about 500 of us rolled up for the day
How many are gunna roll up at the 20/20 game Sunday evening
If its less than 500 I will never ever post on SAFOOTY ever again

In the late 1970s Mr Kerry Packer and his so called circus played one day pyjama cricket
The traditionalists mocked it back then
The new generation of teenagers like myself and my mates went to these games
It was exciting
Hec I was only 19, I even flew over to Melbourne to watch a game

20/20 is here to stay
The young kids luv it
Some of these kids wont get to the grounds
and its becoz of parents boycotting the new venture

ok mal lest say you bet $20,000 a year on adelaide trots and get a return of $27,500 - a successful and worthwile excercise
next year you decide to be on everycode of racing at every venue and spend $100,000 but only get bank $45,000, would you say its not a disater because you have got to see more racing?

[mighty_tiger_79]

it is a disaster because what was wrong with the previous format?, whether you agree with the form of the game or not.

and if 20/20 is designed to attract new people to cricket, the odds are that these people that may be new to the sport will possibly even get bored watching 50 over games and then even less for the longer forms of the game.

I think our culture out here is more about state of origin rather then franchises

[Rik E Boy]

What seems lost on most of you is that you aren't the target audience. CA is seeking new audiences with the BBL.

It will fund first class cricket so I hope it succeeds.

This all equals diminishing returns so it should be a temporary concept. They are killing the golden goose.

regards,

REB

[locky801]

How many would actually be turning up if they weren't handing out free tickets galore

[mighty_tiger_79]

How many would actually be turning up if they weren't handing out free tickets galore

possibly 350 - which is less then the shield game Mal went too

[mighty_tiger_79]

if this fails miserably will CA revert back to investing money and advertising into the more traditional games?

[Rik E Boy]

What seems lost on most of you is that you aren't the target audience. CA is seeking new audiences with the BBL.

It will fund first class cricket so I hope it succeeds.

Move over all of us old farts
This is the new cricket for the new generation
Its putting bums on seats
Thats what the ACB want
Thats what Smac has posted
Thats what I understand had to happen

We're not ******* stupid. Those that are against teeball understand the concepts of bums on seats and the importance of having a financially healthy sport. But why do these legitimate objectives have to destroy the very fabric of the sport? Why is some of this all important money being paid to superannuate players who got the benefit of a proper cricket education in what was the best domestic competition in the world which produced the best test side for over a century?

Here we are in December and we've just seen our second XI getting rolled in Hobart because as well as tests and one dayers the players now also have another format to fit into what is an already overcrowded calendar and the players are starting to drop like flies. I've never seen so many injuries in Cricket. Here we are in December and there are no Shield games. You know, that quaint old competition that produces test cricketers? We have the Indians over here doing a decent preparation for the perhaps the first time ever and now CA has decided that we don't need to prepare our Test Cricketers just so they can get 5000 people to turn up in Sydney. Bums on Seats right.

Coming up with these bullshit teams makes teeball even more irrelvant and has even more meaningless matches just so they can temporarily win over a few extra fans. teeball and Cricket have only a small resemblence to one another so I can't see many bandwagon jumpers opting to follow test cricket or even one dayers. It's all about the coin they can grab before people recognise teeball for what it is, fake, glittery, Americanised garbage. In the meantime we have deconstructed the foundation of the domestic scene - the privelidge of representing your state.

I would like the bums on seats approach to not forget about the integrity of the Shield and not fill our calendar with meaningless slogfests. Every year for the last few seasons there is more and more teeball for the pop up fans. IMO the teeball 'revolution' is a disingenous cynical cash grab that has mortgaged the very future of the game that it purports to be benefiting.

I also belive that comparisons to the Packer era is a false anology. Packer didn't introduce a shorter format of the game and he didn't forget about the longer format of the game either. What he did do is get the best players in the world and got them to play against each other in intense competition that did introduce new fans and retained them as doing these things is good business. While WSC was primarily a business venture its genesis was that unlike today, during that era the players were on absolute squat. teeball is not a player driven 'revolution' but an opportunistic money making exercise undertaken by a tragically inept sporting administration. teeball doesn't get the best players against each other because we are bringing out old blokes, players from other countries and trawling through the first class scene to fill the numbers. teeball isn't fit to be classed anything near to what WSC was.

If Cricket survives this perilous period, fans in the future will look back and shake their heads at the colossal folly that is being undertaken by the current administration. The only Bums in seats I worry about is James Sutherland and his gang of cluessless idiots. Yeah, let's rack in the cash bugger the game. It's a lot more than 'get with the times'.

regards,

REB

[locky801]

Great post REB, right on the money so to speak

[valleys07]

So REB, if CA brought back T20 in a state vs. state format and scheduled it around test and one day fixtures in a small round robin format (if it could be done in a perfect world ), would you agree for it to stay or still call for it to be scrapped?

Not having a dig at all mate btw, im a fan of T20 but on the contrary I completely agree with your previous post. I am also a believer that this franchise crap was a huge mistake as state vs state was much more meaningful and entertaining.

[Rik E Boy]

So REB, if CA brought back T20 in a state vs. state format and scheduled it around test and one day fixtures in a small round robin format (if it could be done in a perfect world ), would you agree for it to stay or still call for it to be scrapped?

Not having a dig at all mate btw, im a fan of T20 but on the contrary I completely agree with your previous post. I am also a believer that this franchise crap was a huge mistake as state vs state was much more meaningful and entertaining.

I'll never be a big fan of teeball no surprise there but if we must have it then it should be with a minimum of disruption to the first class game. So bye bye bulltish franchaises, have less matches and never have a month of summer that is Shield free. I believe if they had less of these games you might make less money in one summer but you could end up making more money from it in five summers. Perhaps a knock out comp could be the go.

regards,

REB

[The Patriach]

Everyone's always going to whinge about some things...

Fact of the matter is tonight will be a success in terms of attendance, excitement and raw cricket talent on display.

Of course first class cricket and the sheff shield is still important but its the festive season, people want to go and see something affordable and exciting, and this is exciting and reasonably cheap!

No big blunder, have fun twiddling your thumbs in the importance of the next SA v Tas shield game
(ie LIVE IN THE MOMENT!!!)

[mighty_tiger_79]

have a 20-20 comp towards the end of the summer, not right in the middle of it, especially when the state of australian cricket is in its current predicament heading to disaster.

[mal]

Wake up
Theres a few sports and entertainment venues that are gurgling towards extinction
The ones that affect me are :
Trots
Dogs
Races
Sheffield Shield Cricket

They are becoming ghost venues
When I was a teenager, there were thousands at these venues
Now the crowds have dropped about 50-75 % at those places

The racing venues are doing very little to entice crowds back to the venues
They have all but given up to becoz of external factors and competition
A few too many clubs are financially strapped if not broke
The clubs are doing little to reverse the trend
BUT the cricket mobs are

The SMART admin people in cricket have reinvigorated attendances by the 20/20 format
Almost overnight thousands upon thousands are flocking back to Domestic Cricket
A new audience, a new entertainment , a new breed of cricket supporter is born
The game of 20/20 us spectacular, thrilling, and great to watch
Not so much for the traditionalists, but for a new breed of watchers its very appealing
There are more people than ever b4 tuning in to watch cricket

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THIS 20/20 FRANCHISED CRICKET IS NOT MY CUP OF TEA , BUT THE SPORT OF 20/20 IS
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The revolution has started
The REBellious are living in the glorious but outdated past
The younger generation wants a 2-3 hour package like football, soccer, rugby, basketball
They prefer that to going to a game that lasts 4-5 days
The kids today are into facebooks, computers,emailing, computer games, foxtel, etc etc
They are not like when I was a kid, when we were outdoor sports orientated lads
If I was a kid these days I would rarely go to any cricket game
When i was a kid I was a regular attender , a different world back then, I had very little electronic gizmos devouring my childhood