Mark Sorrell Sacked

[Adelaide Hawk]

You don't enter into a contract as Redbacks coach expecting long service leave.

[Jim05]

Cox has to go aswell. The guy is a joker. Clean the whole lot out and start fresh. While they are at it get rid of the old fossils running the saca as a boys club.

[heater31]

for a start doing something to get District pitches up to scratch, most are a disgrace, this year most games been washed out or played on a minefield yet the A1 turf sides get out and play most weeks. Few weeks ago when the rain came I was out and about and drove past walkerville Oval, there it was, covers on the pitch area, went for a look at Prospect, no covers on when I got there and that was after a decent dump of rain. Know it is the responsibilty of various councils but if the SACA were serious on District Cricket they would have plans in place to ensure if rain was on the way to have all A grade district side pitches covered. On saying this I have only checked on that one occasion and cannot speak for other clubs/councils/grounds but appears to be a hell of alot of A grade District cricket either not proceeding or some horrid scores on what must be mindfield pitches. No wonder out State side struggles

You make some valid points there locky, Prospect is a disgrace, SACA gave each club a grant to purchase covers a few years ago and also some clubs need to learn how to remove them properly too . In the defence of clubs this season has an uncanny knack of rain falling on a Saturday without fail, yet during the week it has been perfect or Test Match weekend . This weekend is no different

Most umpires are using their brains this season and seem to be placing an emphasis on player safety. For example I made a guest appearance in Turf cricket on the weekend as my Club had the bye. It was a low grade Limited over comp but there is no way Grade cricket would have been played on the pitch that had 2 or 3 showers of rain over the course of the morning/afternoon. Batting was extremely difficult and thank christ that the opposition bowlers were rather pedestrian otherwise it could have been a different story.

Batsmen when sent in on a difficult wicket should have a different mindset. Concentration is the key and IMO the goal should be occupying the crease not high scoring cricket.


Back to Mr Sorrell's demise - Who would we like as a replacement?


you can certainly run a line through D.S Lehmann, I think most of the people in his time as a player are still there and he won't go near the administration whilst they are still there.

[hottie]

Its about time in shield cricket we promote a young group of players and sacrifice a couple of years,dont drop the young guys and give them each enough games to prove themselves,hopefully in a couple of years then SA will have produced a team to be competitive and be more consistent,it is just repeating each year,doesnt matter who the coach is.Bloody pissant town.Does Rini Coolen know anything about cricket?

[Media Park]

Either Jeff Vaughan permanently, or Darren Berry...

[Adelaide Hawk]

You make some valid points there locky, Prospect is a disgrace, SACA gave each club a grant to purchase covers a few years ago and also some clubs need to learn how to remove them properly too . In the defence of clubs this season has an uncanny knack of rain falling on a Saturday without fail, yet during the week it has been perfect or Test Match weekend :roll: . This weekend is no different

I see a major role of the SACA Grade competition being one of nurturing and providing quality players to progress to first class cricket, and ultimately the international arena.

I simply cannot believe the SACA continue to indulge in the following:
1. Not playing on Test Match weekend. Players can attend the Test on the Sunday, and most can arrange a day or two off work, so why they need to forgo their own cricket to watch others in beyond me. Even more strange fo the ATCA.
2. Having an odd number of teams at A grade level, necessitating a bye. If you were a young player on the cusp of shield selection, two weeks off is not the perfect scenario.
3. One club in the SACA does not have a junior program and exists purely on poaching players from other clubs and interstate. This SHOULD be totally unacceptable.
4. My pet hate - far too many teams playing at A grade level. There should be no more than 8 clubs stringently adhering to a charter for player development set by Cricket Australia. There are several clubs who have done nothing for the greater part of 30-40 years, and too many players in A grade who are just happy to play at that level. Most players should be pushing for state selection.

Outside of this, Cricket Australia needs to come to the party and placed a greater emphasis on the Sheffield Shield competition. It used to be the greatest competition in the world below Test cricket but any more. We need our Test players available to play for their states on more occasions, thus bolstering the standard and placing greater pressure on young players to perform.

Keep going the way we are, and cricket will be down the toilet in less than a decade. 50 over and 20/20 cricket has a lot to answer for.

[The Hound]

Any questions being asked of the SACA High Performance department/set up?

[brod]

Why couldnt we have a two division A Grade Competiton, involving promotion and relegation that would allow for more concentration of talent in the level below First Class, rather than the talent now being dissepated to so many clubs.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Why couldnt we have a two division A Grade Competiton, involving promotion and relegation that would allow for more concentration of talent in the level below First Class, rather than the talent now being dissepated to so many clubs.

The major problem I would see with this situation is you need clubs to be strongly administered to put into place long term effective player development & junior programs, etc. I can't see clubs being happy with investing time into juniors, only to be relegated and lose these kids to other clubs in the 1st Division.

I'm not against a two division promotion/relegation system, but it can't be one like the EPL or the ATCA have where you are relegated after 1 poor season. It would need to be an assessment over a 5 year period, and dependant upon the club's productivity both on and off the field.

I could see an automatic promotion/relegtion system having a disruptive effect rather than a positive one.

[Lightning McQueen]

Why couldnt we have a two division A Grade Competiton, involving promotion and relegation that would allow for more concentration of talent in the level below First Class, rather than the talent now being dissepated to so many clubs.

The major problem I would see with this situation is you need clubs to be strongly administered to put into place long term effective player development & junior programs, etc. I can't see clubs being happy with investing time into juniors, only to be relegated and lose these kids to other clubs in the 1st Division.

I'm not against a two division promotion/relegation system, but it can't be one like the EPL or the ATCA have where you are relegated after 1 poor season. It would need to be an assessment over a 5 year period, and dependant upon the club's productivity both on and off the field.

I could see an automatic promotion/relegtion system having a disruptive effect rather than a positive one.

Yes it would at club level but isn't club cricket meant to be the foundation of our state team which is the foundation of our national side. This isn't Cox's, Sorrell's or any other SACA officials fault. It is purely clubs pride in their history not wanting to amalgamate or drop to a div. 2 if they are under-performing. You could understand from a club perspective but it's doing absolutely nothing for our state team, hence the amount of interstate players we are forced to recruit.
It's like having a hit with the family in a park on a sunday then going out to play competition cricket, the jump is far too high and players fall into a false sense of security as they are performing at club level but the gap is far too big to take the next step.

[Adelaide Hawk]

I could see an automatic promotion/relegtion system having a disruptive effect rather than a positive one.

Yes it would at club level but isn't club cricket meant to be the foundation of our state team which is the foundation of our national side.

Yes it is, which is why it's important to build a solidarity into the structure rather than treat it like just another weekend competition.

Just on "clubs not being willing to amalgamate", I can tell you that when it was put to SACA clubs about 15 years ago to explore this, my club Sturt were seriously talking with Glenelg. It was the weaker clubs, the clubs just sponging off the competition who did nothing about it, and that is why nothing happened.

[Lightning McQueen]

I could see an automatic promotion/relegtion system having a disruptive effect rather than a positive one.

Yes it would at club level but isn't club cricket meant to be the foundation of our state team which is the foundation of our national side.

Yes it is, which is why it's important to build a solidarity into the structure rather than treat it like just another weekend competition.

That talent pool is too thin mate, that's where we are getting exposed.

[Adelaide Hawk]

I could see an automatic promotion/relegtion system having a disruptive effect rather than a positive one.

Yes it would at club level but isn't club cricket meant to be the foundation of our state team which is the foundation of our national side.

Yes it is, which is why it's important to build a solidarity into the structure rather than treat it like just another weekend competition.

That talent pool is too thin mate, that's where we are getting exposed.

I think you need to read my posts again. I've said all that.

[Lightning McQueen]

I think you need to read my posts again. I've said all that.

Ha, the power of the edit button, sorry, I jumped the gun.

[smac]

Some of you need to get on Grade club committees and push these thoughts. They're the ones in control, it is written into the SACA constitution and I wish anyone luck who wants to take on that system.

[Lightning McQueen]

Some of you need to get on Grade club committees and push these thoughts. They're the ones in control, it is written into the SACA constitution and I wish anyone luck who wants to take on that system.

I check seek.com daily to see if there's any jobs going at SACA.

[Jim05]

The old farts treat the saca as their own exclusive club. Jobs for the boys.
Thats why lehmann will never get the gig here, he doesnt fit into their culture and ass kissing

[Jimmy]

It's a ******* boys club. Not what u know but who unfortunately

[Rik E Boy]

Some of you need to get on Grade club committees and push these thoughts. They're the ones in control, it is written into the SACA constitution and I wish anyone luck who wants to take on that system.

Reinvent the whole corporation thus making the constitution irrelevant.

regards,

REB

[smac]

Some of you need to get on Grade club committees and push these thoughts. They're the ones in control, it is written into the SACA constitution and I wish anyone luck who wants to take on that system.

Reinvent the whole corporation thus making the constitution irrelevant.

regards,

REB

With a members vote on the wind up? Can't happen!