England in West Indies

[jackpot jim]

Stumps Day 3
Eng 6/600 dec
W.I. 5/398 (Sarwan 184* n.o.)

Plenty of controversy on day 3 with ALL 5 dismissels in the Windies innings being LBW.

Chanderpaul (70) given OUT lbw challenged the decision and with replays CLEARLY showing the ball going well over the top of the stumps, 3rd umpire, Aussies Daryl Harper declined to reverse the decision.

And then another stuff up with Nash (33) given NOT OUT but Eng referred the Lbw appeal to Harper who incredibly reversed the decision and gave him OUT lbw despite replays supporting the central umpires original view that it was too High.

It seems that the system put in place to take the Doubt out of dodgy decisions still needs a lot of fine tuning.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Chanderpaul (70) given OUT lbw challenged the decision and with replays CLEARLY showing the ball going well over the top of the stumps, 3rd umpire, Aussies Daryl Harper declined to reverse the decision.

How can a replay "clearly" show the ball going over the top, if it never did? The ball has been stopped in its' path and we will never know if it would have hit the stumps or not. 3rd umpires should never be allowed to udjudge LBW's.

[jackpot jim]

Chanderpaul (70) given OUT lbw challenged the decision and with replays CLEARLY showing the ball going well over the top of the stumps, 3rd umpire, Aussies Daryl Harper declined to reverse the decision.

How can a replay "clearly" show the ball going over the top, if it never did? The ball has been stopped in its' path and we will never know if it would have hit the stumps or not. 3rd umpires should never be allowed to udjudge LBW's.

With the benifit of tv replays, the 3rd umpire should be better equipped to make a correct lbw decision than the 1st and 2nd (central) umpires who have a split second to weigh up the evidence.

[Pup]

Looks like another stalemate unless England can pull out another 51 all out episode but very very unlikely on this deck.

West Indies declared last night at 9/749 (9th Highest Test Score)

Sarwan 291
Ramdin 166

England are currently 0/5 with a day to play. Nearly certain to be a draw.

What a ordinary series.

[RoosterMarty]

I think it is hilarious that the Windies have racked up such a massive total.

[rogernumber10]

I reckon the West Indies have had a bit of a collective think along the lines of:
- We've been crap for a fair while now
- We don't have any trophies of any kind in the cabinet post 1995
- We are 1-0 up in this series
- How about we lay down roads for the rest of the series, and just hope we don't lose 20 wickets in a Test, and we get a trophy

Doesn't make for exciting cricket, or do anything for bowlers' averages, but I reckon it might be the plan.

[wycbloods]

I reckon the West Indies have had a bit of a collective think along the lines of:
- We've been crap for a fair while now
- We don't have any trophies of any kind in the cabinet post 1995
- We are 1-0 up in this series
- How about we lay down roads for the rest of the series, and just hope we don't lose 20 wickets in a Test, and we get a trophy

Doesn't make for exciting cricket, or do anything for bowlers' averages, but I reckon it might be the plan.

You can't blame them for doing that and i am glad to see they are doing it against the poms.

[rogernumber10]

No issues from me if the Pom bowling attack spends a winter tour grinding it out for no reward.

[jackpot jim]

What a ordinary series.

Whats so ordinary about it?

1st Test was sensational with the Poms rolled for 51.

2nd Test Abandoned

3rd Test was one of the most Gripping and Tense Draws of all time.

4th Test. Has been a Run Feast and a Dull affair although have to hand to the windies batsman for at last showing some character and fight which has been missing for a long time.

1 dud test out of 3 doesn't make an ordinary series imo and who's to say something remarkable mightn't happen on the 5th day today?

[Pup]

What a ordinary series.

Whats so ordinary about it?

1st Test was sensational with the Poms rolled for 51.

2nd Test Abandoned

3rd Test was one of the most Gripping and Tense Draws of all time.

4th Test. Has been a Run Feast and a Dull affair although have to hand to the windies batsman for at last showing some character and fight which has been missing for a long time.

1 dud test out of 3 doesn't make an ordinary series imo and who's to say something remarkable mightn't happen on the 5th day today?

I dont get any pleasure out of watching a second rate side getting skittled by a second rate bowling attack for 51. To me thats a poor performance and not overly entertaining.

Second test was abandoned which was a disgrace and that is 5 days cricket that the supporters miss out on.

You are right the last day of the third test was good, well at least the last hour and a half.

Has been a run feast your right but it has been quite obvious its going to be a draw since stumps on day 2 IMO. But your right who knows what could happen today.

Yes there has been some highlights but it is not a series i will be keen to remember in 5 years.

[MAY-Z]

What a ordinary series.

Whats so ordinary about it?

1st Test was sensational with the Poms rolled for 51.

2nd Test Abandoned

3rd Test was one of the most Gripping and Tense Draws of all time.

4th Test. Has been a Run Feast and a Dull affair although have to hand to the windies batsman for at last showing some character and fight which has been missing for a long time.

1 dud test out of 3 doesn't make an ordinary series imo and who's to say something remarkable mightn't happen on the 5th day today?

I dont get any pleasure out of watching a second rate side getting skittled by a second rate bowling attack for 51. To me thats a poor performance and not overly entertaining.

Second test was abandoned which was a disgrace and that is 5 days cricket that the supporters miss out on.

You are right the last day of the third test was good, well at least the last hour and a half.

Has been a run feast your right but it has been quite obvious its going to be a draw since stumps on day 2 IMO. But your right who knows what could happen today.

Yes there has been some highlights but it is not a series i will be keen to remember in 5 years.

ive enjoyed the bits and pieces of the series ive seen apart from the umpiring.

first test was something different, players like cook, strauss, pietersen, flintoff, collingwood are not second rate

because of the abandoned test another test was played so in fact the supporters got an extra 10 balls of test cricket

if england had managed to get sarwan out then they wouldve been very much favoured for the win in this test

[Pup]

Ifs and buts,

The fact is they could not get him out and now the game seems to be destined for a draw.

But your right i did not take into account the extra test so my mistake.

[RoosterMarty]

Yeah but it's not just any team getting rolled for 51.... it's the Poms! How can you not find that entertaining?

[Adelaide Hawk]

Chanderpaul (70) given OUT lbw challenged the decision and with replays CLEARLY showing the ball going well over the top of the stumps, 3rd umpire, Aussies Daryl Harper declined to reverse the decision.

How can a replay "clearly" show the ball going over the top, if it never did? The ball has been stopped in its' path and we will never know if it would have hit the stumps or not. 3rd umpires should never be allowed to udjudge LBW's.

With the benifit of tv replays, the 3rd umpire should be better equipped to make a correct lbw decision than the 1st and 2nd (central) umpires who have a split second to weigh up the evidence.

I disagree with that. The standing umpire is at ground level and is the best judge of the height of the ball when it strikes the pad. Ebery other view is distorted.

[panther]

3 Tests and 3 of the most embarassing results in history

First Test
England out for 51
Can happen its a poor effort, but I guess all batsman try and just a rare occurence
Disgraceful

Second Test
They play for about 10 minutes
Test abandoned
Can you believe they prepared such poor playing conditions
Pitiful

Third Test
A courageous decision by Andrew Strauss to declare with a meagre 502 lead !!!
West Indies 9/370 draw the game
Bewildering


I consider the 502 target worse than the 51 dismissal
Down 1-0 in a series and you want to defend 502 [be ok if you are 1-0 up in the last test]

Question must be raised, was this the worst or near worst declaration in Test history ?

Fourth Test
another embarrasment for Englamd

WI 9/749 DECLARED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which was the biggest embarasment for England ??????????????????????????

51 all out 1st test
draw setting a team 500+ and having them 9 down 3rd test
9/749 west indies made 4th test

My vote is the draw at least that was a destiny they had control of

[FD88]

They cracked 700? LOL!

[Pup]

The last day drifted to a draw.

England made 2/279

Cook 139*
Pieterson 72*

Shah failed twice on a road making 22.

[brod]

England vs West Indies
Port Of Spain, Trinidad

Stumps Day One

ENGLAND 2/258
AJ Strauss 139*
AN Cook 12
OA Shah 29 (retired hurt)
KP Pietersen 10
PD Collingwood 54*

Two debutants in the match
Amjad Khan - ENG (opening bowler, who is the yougest player ever for Denmark)
Lendl Simmons - WI (batsman, who has played 8 ODIs with limited sucess and is nephew of Phil Simmons)

[FD88]

Can't see this mob posing any threat to us in a few months. There the English media has been, in particular Botham talking up the superiority of their bowling attack over ours, but have a look at it now. Our current baby lineup would be enough to do the job you'd think, let alone one bolstered by a fit Lee and Clark.

[stan]

The Engish team is not even a shadow of what it was in 07 - 08. If Shah is batting at 3 in any side then I reckon your batting might be a bit thin.
At the moment this is there side:
Strauss - Been very good through out this series. New captain leading from the front.
Cook - Has the ability but been a bit hit and prehaps more miss in this series
Shah - Batting a 3??? WTF
Pietersen - Best Player in there side in my opinion. Has been looking alright in this series
Collingwood - Seems to make runs
Prior - Goes alright, useful with the bat. Completing with Ambrose for this spot. I think hes probably the go at the moment.
Broad - I dont rate him, A bit weak in my opinion,
Swann - No idea the moment.
Anderson - Well I dont know, Sometimes he goes well and can take wickets but then he comes on an bowls like and old lady
Panesar - Useful bowler in my opinion
Khan - No idea, only seen him bowl 4 overs and get killed by Gayle as many bowlers have in the past

In saying all of that they still made 500 odd.
The key in my opinion is the batting. Strauss, Cook, Pieterson and Collingwood.
I feel there missing Bell and flintoff.
There bowling doesnt look like they have enough to bowl a side out.