Second Test; Adelaide: Australia vs New Zealand

[rod_rooster]

Most of Haydens dismissals have come from ripper balls or bad decisions. But for some reason, if you're 37, it's a signal to retire, if he was 27, people would say that it's just a rough patch.

If we think Hayden's should retire, we are pretty silly. Ponting hasn't made that much more runs than Hayden....... should we drop Ponting or make Ponting retire?

Hooray, common sense

[luvcricket]

Most of Haydens dismissals have come from ripper balls or bad decisions. But for some reason, if you're 37, it's a signal to retire, if he was 27, people would say that it's just a rough patch.

If we think Hayden's should retire, we are pretty silly. Ponting hasn't made that much more runs than Hayden....... should we drop Ponting or make Ponting retire?

Hooray, common sense

I'll hop on this bandwagon.

[Ned]

He's 37 he cant play on for ever. His average over his past 10 innings is 25. He has a poor record in England and the ashes are nearing. The time has come to find a long term opening partner for the KAT. Retire gracefully at Adelaide on home soil sounds like a good option to me. In saying this he will most likely go out and blast a 100 against the kiwis attack on the batting paradise of Adelaide and cement his spot for another 5 tests, then gets found out in England again. Get some one in thier now and some test cricket under thier belt.

[GWW]

If there was a suitable option to replace Hayden i think he'd almost be "asked to retire", or retire of his own free will, after the Adelaide Test which i think is his 100th. With no standout alternative, however, i think he'll continue for at least the end of the Sth African series.

[CoverKing]

Mike Hussey bats at 4. I don't understand why everyone keeps thinking he bats at 5.

Maybe their confused with the one dayers, he bats at 4 in Tests and 5 in one dayers.

hussey bats 6 in one dayers, behind clarke and roy

[Ned]

If there was a suitable option to replace Hayden i think he'd almost be "asked to retire", or retire of his own free will, after the Adelaide Test which i think is his 100th. With no standout alternative, however, i think he'll continue for at least the end of the Sth African series.

What about C.Rogers excellant first class record

[GWW]

If there was a suitable option to replace Hayden i think he'd almost be "asked to retire", or retire of his own free will, after the Adelaide Test which i think is his 100th. With no standout alternative, however, i think he'll continue for at least the end of the Sth African series.

What about C.Rogers excellant first class record

I guess he'd be the best option, but i think ideally it would be good to see someone in their early to mid 20's putting their name forward for an opening spot - Hughes is still establishing himself, Marsh from WA isn't making huge runs opening for WA, and Rogers probably isn't seen as a long term proposition.

Marcus North I think is 30 next year, he is probably another reasonable option, but i don't think he's done quite enough either to replace Hayden.

[Ned]

If there was a suitable option to replace Hayden i think he'd almost be "asked to retire", or retire of his own free will, after the Adelaide Test which i think is his 100th. With no standout alternative, however, i think he'll continue for at least the end of the Sth African series.

What about C.Rogers excellant first class record

I guess he'd be the best option, but i think ideally it would be good to see someone in their early to mid 20's putting their name forward for an opening spot - Hughes is still establishing himself, Marsh from WA isn't making huge runs opening for WA, and Rogers probably isn't seen as a long term proposition.

Marcus North I think is 30 next year, he is probably another reasonable option, but i don't think he's done quite enough either to replace Hayden.

Rogers has only just turned 31, 30 is the new 25 for Australia in test cricket, Langer and Hayden only started to perform at around this age. I hate how young players with 1 season under thier belt can leap frog someone who has performed for their state for several seasons. Rogers has a outstanding career record, and is performing this year. Rogers is the best opening batsmen outside the test team. North isnt a opener didn't play last year because of injury, has had a good start to the year, will get a tour to SAF or England next year.

[Hondo]

After Roger's very unsuccessful test debut he was dropped from CA's contract list so that would give us an idea of where the selectors see him. He'd need to do a Kat and have a sensational season for Victoria before he'd be considered again.

IIRC the only other opener on the contract list is Phil Jacques who I think is still injured?

Haydos will know when his time is right to go. Even if his best days are behind him I still think he's one of the best opening bats in the world. There's been enough movement in the side recently to give some new players a go I don't think Haydos is holding anyone's career back.

[Rik E Boy]

Most of Haydens dismissals have come from ripper balls or bad decisions. But for some reason, if you're 37, it's a signal to retire, if he was 27, people would say that it's just a rough patch.

If we think Hayden's should retire, we are pretty silly. Ponting hasn't made that much more runs than Hayden....... should we drop Ponting or make Ponting retire?

Hooray, common sense

Not that ******* common on this site so far this summer. The only place where knockers belong is in a woman's bra. Save your precious hatred for Shane Watson.

regards,

REB

[stan]

Well in my opinion Hayden should be allowed to play on. At the moment he got out to a couple of pretty good balls. That one he got in the second innings, well Martin will never bowl a ball that good again.
Still having Katich making runs is a bonus. When Hayden returns to form the top order will have a much different look to it.

[hearts on fire]

New Zealand Squad:

Daniel Vettori (c)
Grant Elliott
Daniel Flynn
Peter Fulton
Mark Gillespie
Gareth Hopkins
Jamie How
Chris Martin
Brendon McCullum (wk)
Iain O`Brien
Jeetan Patel
Aaron Redmond
Jesse Ryder
Tim Southee
Ross Taylor

[jackpot jim]

Why in the F%$K is Symonds still in the Squad??????????????
One of the most undeserving Test cricketers of all time NOT to be confused with his One day form of the game abilities.

[rod_rooster]

Why in the F%$K is Symonds still in the Squad??????????????
One of the most undeserving Test cricketers of all time NOT to be confused with his One day form of the game abilities.

Yeah i mean he's never done anything of significance in Test cricket

He's in the side because he is a proven match winner with a pretty good record. Only Katich and Clarke made more runs for Australia in the first test too.

[Drop Bear]

Haydos will know when his time is right to go.

Spot on mate. Nobody would know better than Haydos that he's nearing the end of his career. He's not retarted. I would like to see him at least play the Suth Afrikin series. He certainly deserves it!

[Real McCoy]

Just rang the SACA,

Australia are training Wed & Thurs morning 9 till 12.

[Drop Bear]

Just rang the SACA,

Australia are training Wed & Thurs morning 9 till 12.

Thanks mate. Might have to get down for a look.

[Booney]

I would think Hayden has earned the right to determine when he retires,BUT,the selectors must be close to giving him the "jump or get pushed" talk. Even if they only touch the surface of such a discussion and Hayden is far from silly and would know exactly where he is at.

For mine,I would give him all the domestic summer to find his feet as we need an old head at the top of the order come Ashes 09,but if his next 5 test here are similar to recent form it may mean a change before we go to England.

A new problem then arrises,who comes into open? Or does Hussey open and we bring in a middle order bat?

[Rik E Boy]

A new problem then arrises,who comes into open? Or does Hussey open and we bring in a middle order bat?

CLONE THE KAT!

regards,

REB

[Killa]

The player should replace hayden when it comes around is hughes because he is younger and when rogers is getting on the wrong side of 30.