Paul Collingwood

[Pidge]

Sidebottom looked like he deliberately ran in the path of Elliot, which was not good. But it was good to see 'Poetic Justice' occur with New Zealand win with the overthrow. Funniest part was watching Vettori, Styris, McCullum and Patel going crazy at the England dressing room.

[brod]

And to add to it he was suspended for 4 games due to slow over rate..again

[mighty_tiger_79]

IMO they should take away the right of the captain to call someone back.
That was a rule when cricket was a gentlemans game which disappeared in the 70's.
Let the umpires and video refs have the final say on everything.

cant agree with the right of the captain

having briefly umpired at a lower level, most captains have the commonsense to make the correct the decisions.

If captains do what Collingwood have done, then it says more about his character then anything.

[rod_rooster]

IMO they should take away the right of the captain to call someone back.
That was a rule when cricket was a gentlemans game which disappeared in the 70's.
Let the umpires and video refs have the final say on everything.

cant agree with the right of the captain

having briefly umpired at a lower level, most captains have the commonsense to make the correct the decisions.

If captains do what Collingwood have done, then it says more about his character then anything.

Well said.

[Grahaml]

The batsman from what I understand can't choose not to have "accidental" runs added if the ball goes to the boundary. There are some things that are considered unlucky (Symonds hitting the ball into Clarke and getting caught, ball clipping a bowler's fingers et al) but there are some things that are bad sportsmanship. Taking an extra single when then ball rickochets off a batsman, appealing for handled ball when the batsman picks the ball up to return it to the fielder, and running a guy out when your team-mate has knocked him over. If the bowler knocks him over going for the ball, gets the ball and throws the stumps down then fair enough IMHO. The bowler would have won. In this case the batsman beat the bowler but the fieldsman took too much advantage.

Regardless, this isn's that bad IMHO. This would be on the minor end of the scale of bad things to have done. But one day any exploitation of a rule quirk will be taken. Batsman will no longer be able to pick the ball up. And I feel the sooner this happens the better. I don't feel the game is better for these things being played by and it allows too many grey areas. Once we realise anything that happens on the field is all fair we won't get upset by things like that.

[rod_rooster]

The thing that annoys me most is that it wasn't a heat of the moment decision. Collingwood had the umpire actually offer him the chance to withdraw the appeal. Surely if the umpire comes to you with that it should be a fairly clear indication that withdrawing the appeal is the right thing to do. Collingwood has admitted he wishes he'd called the batsman back and that is enough for me. He stuffed up and was unsportsmanlike like. He was also a big enough man to admit he stuffed up and that says a lot to me.

[Punk Rooster]

Both Captains redeemed themselves after the heat of the battle, they've both admitted to being wrong, let's move on.
We should be more worried about the (lack of) sportsmanship from the Asian Cricketers...

[Grahaml]

This is exactly why I think the best thing for cricket in general is for all the players to drop their attitiudes towards things like this and let's alter the laws of the game if we want to keep these things happening. Let's make it a case of if it's legal it's OK. If we don't like it let's make it illegal.

[smithy]

This is exactly why I think the best thing for cricket in general is for all the players to drop their attitiudes towards things like this and let's alter the laws of the game if we want to keep these things happening. Let's make it a case of if it's legal it's OK. If we don't like it let's make it illegal.

That was my point Graham.
Let the umpires deem it to be in the spirit of the game or legal.
I'd love to agree with others saying that captains should be able to make up there own mind but fact is there is too much money up for grabs these days and a few captains who idolise Jardine in manners.

[MAY-Z]

This is exactly why I think the best thing for cricket in general is for all the players to drop their attitiudes towards things like this and let's alter the laws of the game if we want to keep these things happening. Let's make it a case of if it's legal it's OK. If we don't like it let's make it illegal.

exactly- the laws of the game state that the fielders have right of way, therefore its the batsmens responsibility to get out of the way of the fielders if the fielder is genuinely going for the ball, which is what happened in this situation.

move on he was out which is the correct decision, it was just unlucky