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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby mal » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:22 pm

Amazing finish to the game
3 overs to go
42 needed off 18 balls
8/252
Copeland bowls a good over and gets a wicket
Phillipson out 100[112] his offside play is Fergusonesque
Hayden Clobbercutting was 17*[7] as predicted if he fires they can win
8/260

12 balls
34 needed
HenREBiques the bowler

48.1 Cutting cuts 2
48.2 full toss he smasssssssssssssssssssssshes it over MW for 6
48.3 wide outside off, swings , misses 0
48.4 off peg, miscued on drive 2
48.5 Cutting down the pitch , HenREBiques tricks him with a bumper 0 run, great bowling
48.6 NO BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL straight drive 4, Moses you idiot !!!!!!!
48.6 full toss, off drive 2
8/277

17 to win
6 balls
Rimmington to face Copeland on debut bowling the last over, dear oh dear oh me, poor captaincy by the Kat
49.1 RIM drives , misses, bowled for 0 [1] good captaincy !!!!
49.2 LAUGHLIN new batter, blocks 1 run

16 off 4 balls to win
49.3 slower ball, CUTTING launches a maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasive blow over MW for 6
3 balls left 10 to win
49.4 on drive 2 runs
2 balls , 2 boundarys to win
CUTTING 41*[17]
COPELAND 3/69]9.4]
49.5 Full on off peg, Cutting swings, inside edge to pad NO RUN NS win
49.6 CUTTING on drives a single

QL 9/287 and 7 runs short

CUTTING 42*[19]
This guy just keeps improving, bat, ball, both FR + SS he is brilliant
I think NFC is on the ball, he predicted this guy as a star b4 I saw it coming, Im on the bandwagon...


Sensational fightback by QL to get so close
MOTM , Phil Jaques no doubt
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby mal » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:25 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
jackpot jim wrote:Havent seen much of him but by hell he hits the ball sweetly from the bit i saw tonight.
I'm sure he'd do well given the chance.

By the letter of the law, i would say Krezja was OUT.......... BUT BUT BUT BUT............

It's certainly NOT in the spirit of the game BUT the letter of the law doesn't allow for sentiment.

This run out circumstance is one of the few negatives with the technology available.
Think there was a similar one the other day, just that the bat bounced up just after the bails were removed ?



JJ, I've just come back to this topic and was mentioning to a mate about the referral to the third umpire system as against the rules of cricket. When a batsman is in by 6ft, 3ft, then the batsman MUST be given the benefit of the doubt, end of story. Essentially the referring umpire is looking for clarification on whether a batsman's bat was grounded over the line, which I would've thought went against giving the batsman the benefit of the doubt.

The system is flawed and should go back to what it was and give the power back to the umpires whether they make the right or wrong call, who cares as it does even out in the end. The umpires are second guessing themselves and are scrutinized beyond belief by the media and public for incorrect decisions. It has to change.


In this particular instance you are 99.27% right
A dreadfool decision
But overall the 3rd ump for run outs gets it right more often than an ump would, making it worthwhile
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby whufc » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:29 pm

What is Moses t20 and 50 over bowling statistics this year, every time i have seen him bowl this season he has been rubbish, does he need to take a leaf out of Cameron White's book and consider putting the bowling away and concerntrating on his batting more even if he has to bat higher up the order.
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby mal » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:53 pm

HENrebIQUES
LAST SEASON
12 months ago it was gunna be his time as the next allrounder
SYMONDS retired
WATSON forever injured
AU was trying out NORTH as the allrounder of sorts

NOW
Moses has lost ground
WATSON is dominating
CUTTING has now become the cult in the making
Ryan HARRIS has come from nowhere

Moses still has the Rolling Stone lyric "' time is on my side""
He has natural batting talent, his bowling is steady
But he is falling behing in the pecking order

He now is way behind HARRIS/WATSON/CUTTING in limited over games
His best chance is in Tests if he can blossom
I can only allow for the fact that he has been ordained by REB.....
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:58 pm

mal wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
jackpot jim wrote:Havent seen much of him but by hell he hits the ball sweetly from the bit i saw tonight.
I'm sure he'd do well given the chance.

By the letter of the law, i would say Krezja was OUT.......... BUT BUT BUT BUT............

It's certainly NOT in the spirit of the game BUT the letter of the law doesn't allow for sentiment.

This run out circumstance is one of the few negatives with the technology available.
Think there was a similar one the other day, just that the bat bounced up just after the bails were removed ?



JJ, I've just come back to this topic and was mentioning to a mate about the referral to the third umpire system as against the rules of cricket. When a batsman is in by 6ft, 3ft, then the batsman MUST be given the benefit of the doubt, end of story. Essentially the referring umpire is looking for clarification on whether a batsman's bat was grounded over the line, which I would've thought went against giving the batsman the benefit of the doubt.

The system is flawed and should go back to what it was and give the power back to the umpires whether they make the right or wrong call, who cares as it does even out in the end. The umpires are second guessing themselves and are scrutinized beyond belief by the media and public for incorrect decisions. It has to change.


In this particular instance you are 99.27% right
A dreadfool decision
But overall the 3rd ump for run outs gets it right more often than an ump would, making it worthwhile


Yeh, you're right Mal. The umpires shouldn't even be out there. Everything should get referred and the third umpire would get 100% right.

Let's refer all decisions in every sport...let's do it in AFL, tiddlywinks, lawn bowls and German national indoor whittling championships.

Let's not worry about the integrity of the game, let's not worry about recruiting people who can actually umpire the game, let's just admit they should be there for the easy stuff, and refer every decision, even for fruitless appealing "just in case it might be out" (which is what you are advocating). Let's just stop the flow of the game and bugger everything up about the great game we love.

Rant over.
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby jackpot jim » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:09 pm

mal wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
jackpot jim wrote:Havent seen much of him but by hell he hits the ball sweetly from the bit i saw tonight.
I'm sure he'd do well given the chance.

By the letter of the law, i would say Krezja was OUT.......... BUT BUT BUT BUT............

It's certainly NOT in the spirit of the game BUT the letter of the law doesn't allow for sentiment.

This run out circumstance is one of the few negatives with the technology available.
Think there was a similar one the other day, just that the bat bounced up just after the bails were removed ?



JJ, I've just come back to this topic and was mentioning to a mate about the referral to the third umpire system as against the rules of cricket. When a batsman is in by 6ft, 3ft, then the batsman MUST be given the benefit of the doubt, end of story. Essentially the referring umpire is looking for clarification on whether a batsman's bat was grounded over the line, which I would've thought went against giving the batsman the benefit of the doubt.

The system is flawed and should go back to what it was and give the power back to the umpires whether they make the right or wrong call, who cares as it does even out in the end. The umpires are second guessing themselves and are scrutinized beyond belief by the media and public for incorrect decisions. It has to change.


In this particular instance you are 99.27% right
A dreadfool decision
But overall the 3rd ump for run outs gets it right more often than an ump would, making it worthwhile


Agree with Mal.
The 3rd umpire has been fantastic for run outs and stumpings and would be massive backward step if they scrapped it.
As with any system, nothing is 100% fullproof (even a Late MAL got beaten once ;) )
I think all agree that Krezja got a decision that was technically OUT but the referral was not for the reason that it was given out if that makes sense.
Apart from that decision and a few controversial ones where the 3rd umpire hasn't given the benefit of the doubt to the batsman, the FORS far out weigh the AGAINSTS in regaurd to 3rd umpire decisions involving line decisions.
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby mal » Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:14 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
mal wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
jackpot jim wrote:Havent seen much of him but by hell he hits the ball sweetly from the bit i saw tonight.
I'm sure he'd do well given the chance.

By the letter of the law, i would say Krezja was OUT.......... BUT BUT BUT BUT............

It's certainly NOT in the spirit of the game BUT the letter of the law doesn't allow for sentiment.

This run out circumstance is one of the few negatives with the technology available.
Think there was a similar one the other day, just that the bat bounced up just after the bails were removed ?



JJ, I've just come back to this topic and was mentioning to a mate about the referral to the third umpire system as against the rules of cricket. When a batsman is in by 6ft, 3ft, then the batsman MUST be given the benefit of the doubt, end of story. Essentially the referring umpire is looking for clarification on whether a batsman's bat was grounded over the line, which I would've thought went against giving the batsman the benefit of the doubt.

The system is flawed and should go back to what it was and give the power back to the umpires whether they make the right or wrong call, who cares as it does even out in the end. The umpires are second guessing themselves and are scrutinized beyond belief by the media and public for incorrect decisions. It has to change.


In this particular instance you are 99.27% right
A dreadfool decision
But overall the 3rd ump for run outs gets it right more often than an ump would, making it worthwhile


Yeh, you're right Mal. The umpires shouldn't even be out there. Everything should get referred and the third umpire would get 100% right.

Let's refer all decisions in every sport...let's do it in AFL, tiddlywinks, lawn bowls and German national indoor whittling championships.

Let's not worry about the integrity of the game, let's not worry about recruiting people who can actually umpire the game, let's just admit they should be there for the easy stuff, and refer every decision, even for fruitless appealing "just in case it might be out" (which is what you are advocating). Let's just stop the flow of the game and bugger everything up about the great game we love.

Rant over.


Im only passing judgement on run out decisions in 50 over games
Rant over !
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:18 pm

mal wrote:HENrebIQUES
LAST SEASON
12 months ago it was gunna be his time as the next allrounder
SYMONDS retired
WATSON forever injured
AU was trying out NORTH as the allrounder of sorts

NOW
Moses has lost ground
WATSON is dominating
CUTTING has now become the cult in the making
Ryan HARRIS has come from nowhere

Moses still has the Rolling Stone lyric "' time is on my side""
He has natural batting talent, his bowling is steady
But he is falling behing in the pecking order

He now is way behind HARRIS/WATSON/CUTTING in limited over games
His best chance is in Tests if he can blossom
I can only allow for the fact that he has been ordained by REB.....


Henriques bloody horrible with the ball tonight. As mentioned in other threads the Blues' attack has been decimated by injury this season. Henriques has been elevated to a front line bowler and his form at the bowling crease is clearly suffering. Just as it has turned around for Watson, it can turn around for Moises.

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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:16 pm

from cricinfo

New South Wales 224 (49.3 ov)

Victoria

New South Wales won the toss and elected to bat

Innings break
Ford Ranger Cup
List A match | 2009/10 season
Played at Melbourne Cricket Ground
10 February 2010 - day/night (50-over match)

New South Wales innings (50 overs maximum) R M B 4s 6s SR
PA Jaques c sub (AC Blizzard) b McGain 60 84 65 9 0 92.30
19.5 Caught! Jaques tries to loft over the long on rope, didn't get all of it, instead floated a catch down the substitute Blizzard's throat. 90/1

PJ Hughes c Hussey b McGain 44 120 91 2 0 48.35
31.5 Caught! Hughes advances and tries to slog sweep over midmicket from outside off, gets a top edge towards long on, Hussey runs back from midwicket and takes a superb catch! 124/4

SPD Smith c Rogers b McGain 8 18 17 0 0 47.05
27.1 Caught! McGain threw up a leg break wide of off, Smith went to sweep over midwicket but hit it flat and straight to Rogers who caught it infront of his eyes. 111/2

SM Katich* b Hodge 2 3 5 0 0 40.00
28.1 Bowled him! Wow. From around the wicket, Hodge tossed it high, drifted it into to Katich who tried to whip over midwicket, missed, it went through the gate and hit off stump. The Blues have come to a grinding halt. 114/3

MC Henriques c McDonald b Hastings 13 30 30 0 0 43.33
36.6 Caught! Quicker bouncer ouside off, Henriques tries to pull, gets a top edge, McDonald runs from midwicket to square leg and claims a relatively comfortable catch. 143/5

DJ Thornely c Quiney b McDonald 32 56 31 3 0 103.22
44.1 Caught! Thornely tried to loft a drive inside out over cover, he sliced it off the edge to backward point and Quiney held a good catch as it dipped on him. 198/7

DA Warner c McDonald b Nannes 16 23 19 2 0 84.21
41.3 Caught! Another quick short ball, got big on Warner who tried to pull, top edge flew high towards midwicket and McDonald camping on the circle stood under it to take a comfortable catch. 173/6

DLR Smith† b Nannes 14 30 13 2 0 107.69
47.4 Bowled him! Smith feigned to back away, then stepped outside off, trying to scoop to fine leg, Nannes speared full and straight and hit middle stump. 215/9

MA Starc c Hastings b Nannes 9 13 15 1 0 60.00
47.1 Caught! Short ball outside off, Starc backs away and tries to pull down the ground, gets a top edge off the toe and floats a catch to mid off where Hastings swallows the chance with ease. 213/8

NW Bracken c Rogers b Hastings 5 12 7 0 0 71.42
49.3 Caught! Short of a length, Bracken hammers a pull shot hard and flat but straight to the man at deep square leg andRogers takes a straight forward catch. 224/10

JR Hazlewood not out 5 9 5 0 0 100.00

Extras (b 5, lb 2, w 8, nb 1) 16

Total (all out; 49.3 overs) 224 (4.52 runs per over)
Fall of wickets1-90 (Jaques, 19.5 ov), 2-111 (SPD Smith, 27.1 ov), 3-114 (Katich, 28.1 ov), 4-124 (Hughes, 31.5 ov), 5-143 (Henriques, 36.6 ov), 6-173 (Warner, 41.3 ov), 7-198 (Thornely, 44.1 ov), 8-213 (Starc, 47.1 ov), 9-215 (DLR Smith, 47.4 ov), 10-224 (Bracken, 49.3 ov)

Bowling O M R W Econ
DP Nannes 10 1 40 3 4.00
41.3 to Warner, Caught! Another quick short ball, got big on Warner who tried to pull, top edge flew high towards midwicket and McDonald camping on the circle stood under it to take a comfortable catch. 173/6


47.1 to Starc, Caught! Short ball outside off, Starc backs away and tries to pull down the ground, gets a top edge off the toe and floats a catch to mid off where Hastings swallows the chance with ease. 213/8


47.4 to DLR Smith, Bowled him! Smith feigned to back away, then stepped outside off, trying to scoop to fine leg, Nannes speared full and straight and hit middle stump. 215/9


JL Pattinson 3 0 14 0 4.66

JW Hastings 7.3 0 48 2 6.40 (1nb, 4w)
36.6 to Henriques, Caught! Quicker bouncer ouside off, Henriques tries to pull, gets a top edge, McDonald runs from midwicket to square leg and claims a relatively comfortable catch. 143/5


49.3 to Bracken, Caught! Short of a length, Bracken hammers a pull shot hard and flat but straight to the man at deep square leg andRogers takes a straight forward catch. 224/10


AB McDonald 10 0 47 1 4.70
44.1 to Thornely, Caught! Thornely tried to loft a drive inside out over cover, he sliced it off the edge to backward point and Quiney held a good catch as it dipped on him. 198/7


BE McGain 10 0 37 3 3.70
19.5 to Jaques, Caught! Jaques tries to loft over the long on rope, didn't get all of it, instead floated a catch down the substitute Blizzard's throat. 90/1


27.1 to SPD Smith, Caught! McGain threw up a leg break wide of off, Smith went to sweep over midwicket but hit it flat and straight to Rogers who caught it infront of his eyes. 111/2


31.5 to Hughes, Caught! Hughes advances and tries to slog sweep over midmicket from outside off, gets a top edge towards long on, Hussey runs back from midwicket and takes a superb catch! 124/4


BJ Hodge 9 0 31 1 3.44
28.1 to Katich, Bowled him! Wow. From around the wicket, Hodge tossed it high, drifted it into to Katich who tried to whip over midwicket, missed, it went through the gate and hit off stump. The Blues have come to a grinding halt. 114/3



Victoria team
CJL Rogers, AJ Finch, BJ Hodge, DJ Hussey*, AB McDonald, RJ Quiney, MS Wade†, JW Hastings, JL Pattinson, BE McGain, DP Nannes
Match details
Toss New South Wales, who chose to bat

Umpires GC Joshua and MD Martell
TV umpire JD Ward
Match referee SM Small

Match notes
12th Men: AC Blizzard (Victoria) and SNJ O'Keefe (New South Wales)
New South Wales innings
PA Jaques: 50 from 54 balls (8 x 4)
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby mal » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:18 pm

VI 1/27
HODGE to the wicket
he needs 20 odd runs to be the greatest Ford ranger/domestic rungetter ever
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby mal » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:21 pm

HODGE OUT 5
Needs 15 next game .....

VI 2/32
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby CoverKing » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:01 am

I believe VIC won on D/L method needing a run a ball with 4 wickets in hand with around 15 to get or so. Not entirely accurate but thereabouts i believe. bad blow for the 'backs as NSW win would have been a better result with SA playing NSW in the last game for us.
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby mal » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:56 am

NS 224 [49.3]
JAQUES 60 [65]
HUGHES 44[91] too slow, whats happened to the whizkid ?
NS were 0/90
NANNES 3/40
MCGAIN 3/37 the best domestic spinner in the country

VI 5/216 [42.4] match shorter and a duckylewy game
FINCH 44[53]
HUSSEY 45[40] THE DAVE is just a terrific limited overs player
MCDONALD 42*[62] did his job as per usual
WADE 50[68] the six he hit over long off was stunning
BRACKEN 2/34 + almost a hatrick, still an imposing o/d bowler

Vics win it for Bill pidgeon beak Lawry , the great man turns 73 years old today 11/02/2010[2 days after 90210 !]


LADDER
QL 21[8] 0.331
VI 21 [9] 0.151
WA 18[9] -0.079
NS 17[9] -0.174
SA 17[9] -0.336
TA 16[8] 0.116

A real traffic jam
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:44 am

mal wrote:HUGHES 44[91] too slow, whats happened to the whizkid ?




He's probably been told by the Australian selectors to tame his shot selection down early in his innings. He needs to work out whether he wants to play test cricket for Australia or present himself in any form, if I was him I'd concentrate on the longer version game for the time being. Having Warner down the order is plain stupidity.
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:13 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
mal wrote:HUGHES 44[91] too slow, whats happened to the whizkid ?




He's probably been told by the Australian selectors to tame his shot selection down early in his innings. He needs to work out whether he wants to play test cricket for Australia or present himself in any form, if I was him I'd concentrate on the longer version game for the time being. Having Warner down the order is plain stupidity.


Why? Warner is 5hit.

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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby mal » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:19 pm

HUGHES.................WARNER

FIRST CLASS
3262 RUNS..............131 RUNS
56-24 AVE..............26-20 AVE
60-50 S/R...............81-87 S/R

FRANGER CUP
1051 RUNS...............822 RUNS
35-93 AVE...............31-61 AVE
70-01 S/R...............102-75 S/R

BIGBASH
486 RUNS.................1199 RUNS
48-60 AVE.................29-24 AVE
115-71 S/R...............149-31 S/R


Both fine young players
WARNER is a better limited overs cricketer
HUGHES is a better SS player

To confirm by prognosis
WARNER has played ODIs + 20/20 INts for AU....and 0 Tests
HUGHES has played Tests..............................and 0 limited overs games for AU

To contradict my prognosis
Why is HUGHES batting 6 spots above WARNER in the Franger Cup ?
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:46 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
mal wrote:HUGHES 44[91] too slow, whats happened to the whizkid ?




He's probably been told by the Australian selectors to tame his shot selection down early in his innings. He needs to work out whether he wants to play test cricket for Australia or present himself in any form, if I was him I'd concentrate on the longer version game for the time being. Having Warner down the order is plain stupidity.


Why? Warner is 5hit.

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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby mal » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:26 pm

WA 7/231[50]
RONCHI 55[85] a slow fir hum innings but part of the rescue package
WA were 5/118
DOHERTY 4/32[10] underated spinner
Feilding votes up to over 40, didnt see the last 10 overs was Dan Marsh for his 3 dropped catches !

Foxsports have repeated said the winner of thei match will play off in the final
WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG ??????????

VI 21
QL 21
TA 20
WA 18
NS 17
SA 17

Last 3 games
WA V TA
VI V QL
NS V SA

If WA win this game they can still miss out
VI V QL tied game prevents WA making the final [unless WA gets 6 points]
WA winning[and only getting 4 points] , but SA /NS getting 6 points from double bonus points will get either SA or NS into the final
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby westcoastpanther » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:51 pm

Just saw Ronchi's dropped catch........ :oops:
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Re: ALL Franger Cup Live scores 2009/2010 not S.A. games

Postby mal » Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:07 pm

westcoastpanther wrote:Just saw Ronchi's dropped catch........ :oops:



Did u see the seagull that flew across when RONCHI tried for the catch :lol:

TA 4/145
80 needed off 72
PAINE 57
BOOM BOOM BIRT 42*[58]
MARSH 4* [7]
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