Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby Booney » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:29 am

Dutchy wrote:Ch9 would have been spewing, had a chance to see an exciting run chase but gets called off, meanwhile there was a cracking tennis match on ch7, reckon millions would have made the move from 9 to 7 when called off.


Do people watch tennis on TV? :shock:
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:48 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Ch9 would have been spewing, had a chance to see an exciting run chase but gets called off, meanwhile there was a cracking tennis match on ch7, reckon millions would have made the move from 9 to 7 when called off.


Do people watch tennis on TV? :shock:



i listen to it on the radio
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:08 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:This is what someone posted on cricinfo.

Dave Angel: "Actually, Clarke could hold himself responsible for Warner's dismissal. DRS was designed to correct decisions like the one Warner got, the absolute howlers, not the "maybe, was it? I'm not sure" ones like Clarke got. If teams continue to gamble with DRS, situations like this will keep occurring. Clarke abused DRS and his team has now paid the price."


This guy couldnt be any more right, fantastic summary
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby Booney » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:15 pm

I'm not so sure.

Firstly, the only person responsible for Warners howler is the umpire.

Secondly, the position of the game ( when Clarke was given out ), the fact it looked ( and to him would have felt "high" ), the fact he is the captain and our most in form batsmen at this time meant he had to refer his to the DRS, which showed only half (or thereabouts) of the ball hitting the top of the stumps.

Clarke, IMO, was well within his rights to use the DRS and nobody should blame anyone but the umpire for Warners shocker.
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:23 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Wonder if any Australian team officials had anything to do with not playing.


I've been saying that today at work TSG. I think there was something at play there. If Sri Lanka had to bat, they would've been chasing about 120 off 30 odd overs and then potentially comfortably win.

That would've made the Hobart game a dead rubber. CA wouldn't have wanted that.

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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:24 pm

Booney wrote:I'm not so sure.

Firstly, the only person responsible for Warners howler is the umpire.

Secondly, the position of the game ( when Clarke was given out ), the fact it looked ( and to him would have felt "high" ), the fact he is the captain and our most in form batsmen at this time meant he had to refer his to the DRS, which showed only half (or thereabouts) of the ball hitting the top of the stumps.

Clarke, IMO, was well within his rights to use the DRS and nobody should blame anyone but the umpire for Warners shocker.


IMO I don't care if Clarkes was shown to be going over the top, it wasn't a howler, it was a 50/50 call which the umpire had every right to call it either way and the umpires decision should be accepted.
I go back to what i have said in the past, give the batsman 2-3 seconds to make up his mind, every single howler is referred instantly within 1-2 seconds because you know when you are not out. There should be no consultation allowed with the non striker.
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:28 pm

If you want to use drs on 50/50 lbw calls, then bad luck. Drs wasn't brought in for those types of dismissals. It was brought in for the Warner and Henriques ones.
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby JK » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:00 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:If you want to use drs on 50/50 lbw calls, then bad luck. Drs wasn't brought in for those types of dismissals. It was brought in for the Warner and Henriques ones.


Clarke said after the game he thought he was pretty much plumb, Warner said "maybe high, maybe you hit it" .. Got the feeling they thought they were about %10 chance of getting a favourable call.
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby Booney » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:23 pm

JK wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:If you want to use drs on 50/50 lbw calls, then bad luck. Drs wasn't brought in for those types of dismissals. It was brought in for the Warner and Henriques ones.


Clarke said after the game he thought he was pretty much plumb, Warner said "maybe high, maybe you hit it" .. Got the feeling they thought they were about %10 chance of getting a favourable call.


So the two spoke and deiced to use the DRS, clearly with the thinking Clarke is in form and our best bat at the moment.

I see no problem with it being used there.
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby JK » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:37 pm

Booney wrote:
JK wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:If you want to use drs on 50/50 lbw calls, then bad luck. Drs wasn't brought in for those types of dismissals. It was brought in for the Warner and Henriques ones.


Clarke said after the game he thought he was pretty much plumb, Warner said "maybe high, maybe you hit it" .. Got the feeling they thought they were about %10 chance of getting a favourable call.


So the two spoke and deiced to use the DRS, clearly with the thinking Clarke is in form and our best bat at the moment.

I see no problem with it being used there.


The problem is if you need to keep a challenge up your sleeve, should a "Hail Mary" go against you
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:38 pm

Booney wrote:
JK wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:If you want to use drs on 50/50 lbw calls, then bad luck. Drs wasn't brought in for those types of dismissals. It was brought in for the Warner and Henriques ones.


Clarke said after the game he thought he was pretty much plumb, Warner said "maybe high, maybe you hit it" .. Got the feeling they thought they were about %10 chance of getting a favourable call.


So the two spoke and deiced to use the DRS, clearly with the thinking Clarke is in form and our best bat at the moment.

I see no problem with it being used there.

Really?
As others have stated its there for the howlers not so the top order can use it for a maybe call.
Ive noticed 2 things since DRS came in, batters always think they are not out and keepers think every appeal is out
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby Booney » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:47 pm

Well I'd argue that the umpires should not get the howlers wrong in the first place and the DRS should be for the 50/50 that the players decide are worth challenging, as Warner and Clarke did.

Warners decision, well, top class umpires should get them right.
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:00 pm

Not the first shocking decision, and won't be the last. Take drs away, and Clarke, Warner and Henriques would still be out.
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:54 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Not the first shocking decision, and won't be the last. Take drs away, and Clarke, Warner and Henriques would still be out.

Valid point, we have an upcoming tour of India with no DRS.
We will cop some dead set shockers over there and cant do stuff all about it
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:19 pm

Sri Lanka are asking for an explanation as to why the game was abandoned.
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby CENTURION » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:33 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Sri Lanka are asking for an explanation as to why the game was abandoned.


I reckon it's got sumfink to do wif the rain!
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:00 pm

CENTURION wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Sri Lanka are asking for an explanation as to why the game was abandoned.


I reckon it's got sumfink to do wif the rain!

Should of played.
Seen teams play in far worse
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby jackpot jim » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:22 pm

Jim05 wrote:
CENTURION wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Sri Lanka are asking for an explanation as to why the game was abandoned.


I reckon it's got sumfink to do wif the rain!

Should of played.
Seen teams play in far worse


Doesn't make it right tho.

Apart from SH*T umpiring, there is nothing worse for a player than playing in the WET, Ball gets wet and soft and slippery, stops swinging, spinners cant grip it and fielders cant attack the ball as in the dry, all completely disadvantaging the fielding side enormously. As frustrating as it is, thats cricket.
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:35 pm

Light drizzle on the ground. Had stopped for half an hour. Then called it off. Australia won the toss and elected to bat, despite forecast of rain later. How bad are we going. Joke that is was called off. Seems cricket is trying to kill itself.
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Re: Australia v Sri Lanka Game 4 SCG

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:13 pm

jackpot jim wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
CENTURION wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Sri Lanka are asking for an explanation as to why the game was abandoned.


I reckon it's got sumfink to do wif the rain!

Should of played.
Seen teams play in far worse


Doesn't make it right tho.

Apart from SH*T umpiring, there is nothing worse for a player than playing in the WET, Ball gets wet and soft and slippery, stops swinging, spinners cant grip it and fielders cant attack the ball as in the dry, all completely disadvantaging the fielding side enormously. As frustrating as it is, thats cricket.

The Lankans wanted to play so they obviously didnt think the conditions were going to hamper them.
I agree with TSG pretty piss poor
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