SA Premier League Cricket

[The Dark Knight]

:oops:
Did he play for WA at some point.

Yes he did.

[am Bays]

:oops:

Did he play for WA at some point.

yep got selected in the test side when playing for WA then went back to NSW and finished his career. Never played for Australia after a tour game in Zimbabwe when Ian Healy gave a very public opinion on his bowling after the fifth lot of five wides went past his gloves.

Gilchrist and Beer don't count in the WA numbers as they moved their after their "development".

[Ecky]

Since 1980 there have been 125 test caps awarded, our grade system has developed ten of them (T Chappell (when playing for NSW), Phillips, May, Blewett, Gillespie, Lehman, Tait, Cullen, Manou and George, the last three are them are one test wonders.
I'm not counting the imports - McIntyre, Lyons and Wilson

Tasmania with a third of our population has produced six from its grade systems (Wooley, Campbell, Ponting, Young, Paine and Doherty) Once again not counting the ring ins Cowan, Krejza etc

I can't be ar5ed counting all the WA debutants since 1980, a state roughly our population size: Alderman, Yardley, Hogan, Marsh, Reid, Zoehrer, Valetta, Moody - eight in the 80s alone, then Martyn, Langer, Angel, Julian....

Yep our grade system aint broke....

I fail to see your argument, am Bays.

According to 2012 ABS figures, SA has 7.31% of Australia's population (more than BulldogProud's estimate of 1/20 = 5%)
According to your figures, SA has produced 8% of Australian test cricketers since 1980 (10/125)

[am Bays]

Since 1980 there have been 125 test caps awarded, our grade system has developed ten of them (T Chappell (when playing for NSW), Phillips, May, Blewett, Gillespie, Lehman, Tait, Cullen, Manou and George, the last three are them are one test wonders.
I'm not counting the imports - McIntyre, Lyons and Wilson

Tasmania with a third of our population has produced six from its grade systems (Wooley, Campbell, Ponting, Young, Paine and Doherty) Once again not counting the ring ins Cowan, Krejza etc

I can't be ar5ed counting all the WA debutants since 1980, a state roughly our population size: Alderman, Yardley, Hogan, Marsh, Reid, Zoehrer, Valetta, Moody - eight in the 80s alone, then Martyn, Langer, Angel, Julian....

Yep our grade system aint broke....

I fail to see your argument, am Bays.

According to 2012 ABS figures, SA has 7.31% of Australia's population (more than BulldogProud's estimate of 1/20 = 5%)
According to your figures, SA has produced 8% of Australian test cricketers since 1980 (10/125)

that's now in 2013, what was the %age in 1980 and what is our average % of the population over that 35 years?

[Footy Smart]

Since 1980 there have been 125 test caps awarded, our grade system has developed ten of them (T Chappell (when playing for NSW), Phillips, May, Blewett, Gillespie, Lehman, Tait, Cullen, Manou and George, the last three are them are one test wonders.
I'm not counting the imports - McIntyre, Lyons and Wilson

Tasmania with a third of our population has produced six from its grade systems (Wooley, Campbell, Ponting, Young, Paine and Doherty) Once again not counting the ring ins Cowan, Krejza etc

I can't be ar5ed counting all the WA debutants since 1980, a state roughly our population size: Alderman, Yardley, Hogan, Marsh, Reid, Zoehrer, Valetta, Moody - eight in the 80s alone, then Martyn, Langer, Angel, Julian....

Yep our grade system aint broke....

I fail to see your argument, am Bays.

According to 2012 ABS figures, SA has 7.31% of Australia's population (more than BulldogProud's estimate of 1/20 = 5%)
According to your figures, SA has produced 8% of Australian test cricketers since 1980 (10/125)

A fair few of the names that have been rattled off for other states are also "one test wonders" or only above average/played minimal games

All this has nothing really to do with grade cricket, it has all to do with poor perfromance of SACA at HP/elite level and the stalled development of the younger talent under previous HP regimes. While Chuck cops a fair bit of flack atleast he is giving brown, sayers, teitjens, ross, head etc a go

[Ecky]

Since 1980 there have been 125 test caps awarded, our grade system has developed ten of them (T Chappell (when playing for NSW), Phillips, May, Blewett, Gillespie, Lehman, Tait, Cullen, Manou and George, the last three are them are one test wonders.
I'm not counting the imports - McIntyre, Lyons and Wilson

Tasmania with a third of our population has produced six from its grade systems (Wooley, Campbell, Ponting, Young, Paine and Doherty) Once again not counting the ring ins Cowan, Krejza etc

I can't be ar5ed counting all the WA debutants since 1980, a state roughly our population size: Alderman, Yardley, Hogan, Marsh, Reid, Zoehrer, Valetta, Moody - eight in the 80s alone, then Martyn, Langer, Angel, Julian....

Yep our grade system aint broke....

I fail to see your argument, am Bays.

According to 2012 ABS figures, SA has 7.31% of Australia's population (more than BulldogProud's estimate of 1/20 = 5%)
According to your figures, SA has produced 8% of Australian test cricketers since 1980 (10/125)

that's now in 2013, what was the %age in 1980 and what is our average % of the population over that 35 years?

According to the 1981 census it was 8.97%

So the average over that time would be something close to the 8% mark.

[am Bays]

but how does it explain other states puncing over their weight compared to us?

PS you can probably also add Ryan Harris to our development numbers as well given he grew up here and only moved in his late 20s to Qld.

[Bulls forever]

but how does it explain other states puncing over their weight compared to us?

PS you can probably also add Ryan Harris to our development numbers as well given he grew up here and only moved in his late 20s to Qld.

Perhaps you are right Bays, but the quibble was whether SACA gave him a extended contract, Qld gave him three and turned him from a sometimes SACA player to a Test player. How does that fit into anyones argument. Just because he was 28(ish) when he went, does not mean he has not developed considerably under another High Performance system. That goes back to FS's argument, the poor performance of High Performance development in this State. We argue about our results in the underage competitions, but they are competitive most of the time. What happens when they leave this system and their future development?

[Bulls forever]

Might be interest to you cricket followers that in January 2011, 9 of the 13 Grade Clubs voted for a significant review of Grade Cricket, this was about the time the PL was mooted by Herr Cox. This was ignored and the SACA moved towards the development of the PL, all you SACA people on here have conveniently forgotten about this. Now we have a competition for next season, 4 coaches and pretty much no one knows anything else, except the NT Thunder and Papua New Guinea will supposedly be part of it.

[therisingblues]

Since 1980 there have been 125 test caps awarded, our grade system has developed ten of them (T Chappell (when playing for NSW), Phillips, May, Blewett, Gillespie, Lehman, Tait, Cullen, Manou and George, the last three are them are one test wonders.
I'm not counting the imports - McIntyre, Lyons and Wilson

Tasmania with a third of our population has produced six from its grade systems (Wooley, Campbell, Ponting, Young, Paine and Doherty) Once again not counting the ring ins Cowan, Krejza etc

I can't be ar5ed counting all the WA debutants since 1980, a state roughly our population size: Alderman, Yardley, Hogan, Marsh, Reid, Zoehrer, Valetta, Moody - eight in the 80s alone, then Martyn, Langer, Angel, Julian....

Yep our grade system aint broke....

I fail to see your argument, am Bays.

According to 2012 ABS figures, SA has 7.31% of Australia's population (more than BulldogProud's estimate of 1/20 = 5%)
According to your figures, SA has produced 8% of Australian test cricketers since 1980 (10/125)

that's now in 2013, what was the %age in 1980 and what is our average % of the population over that 35 years?

According to the 1981 census it was 8.97%

So the average over that time would be something close to the 8% mark.

I think you're all asking the wrong question, it should be the number of tests played by South Australians, not number of South Aussies who played tests. You'd then figure that each test team has 11 spots available, so multiply number of tests by 11 etc...

[oldeagle]

So have the 4 squads been picked?

[smac]

Nearly. Was chatting with a PL coach this afternoon, he's close to a full squad.

[mickey]

Full squad? I know people who are just getting the email telling them how to nominate to play

[helicopterking]

Full squad? I know people who are just getting the email telling them how to nominate to play

Aren't they asking players via email to send in previous years stats and if they are interested in playing?

[smac]

Pretty sure I said close to a full squad, not actually having one.

[Bulls forever]

Will be interesting to see what happens, don't know about other PL teams, but I do know that from TTG, Head, Haberfield, Davey, Somerfield, O'Hara are overseas and only Haberfield back before middle September. I would assume that some other clubs are in a similar boat, hence whilst they might have a paper squad, not sure they will all be there, would not imagine the SACA contracted players will train with PL squads. It appears that now Bradshaw is absent from work, the information flow has once again dried up, with Grade Clubs not getting told anything - SMAC you there, make a phone call please and tell them Communication is a two way thing.

[smac]

Why me? I'm just an interested observer.

[Shark_Hunter]

So when and why did the Western Suns become the Western Grit?

[Footy Smart]

So when and why did the Western Suns become the Western Grit?

Ive also heard a senior player from one zone will captain another zones side

[heater31]

So when and why did the Western Suns become the Western Grit?

Ive also heard a senior player from one zone will captain another zones side

You get sent an application form FS?