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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby stan » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:55 am

Pup wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Media Park wrote:Did bugger all, cept tear out a SL board team on the tour over there... Bowls slower than McGrath did at the end of his career, and doesn't have the accuracy or variations in his arsenal.
Siddle is my boy, he bursts in all day, just as fast in the first over of the day as the last, and can take a bag at Test level.

Ryan Harris is a dominant Test match bowler, simple as that. The only hard part is getting the prick fit enough for a full series.

With you there, massive Siddle fan. Would still be my first picked bowler.


Not for me.

Trys hard and gives his all but still not highly rated from my point of view.


On the South African pitches, hell yes. He is like Harris and they are both exactly what is needed to take wickets over there. I would almost look at picking 4 quicks for matches over there.
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby CoverKing » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:18 am

I feel we need a spinner. We have the ability to have four quicks with Watson so a bit of variety is needed.
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby wristwatcher » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:27 am

CoverKing wrote:I feel we need a spinner. We have the ability to have four quicks with Watson so a bit of variety is needed.



I reckon Pup could role the arm over himself for a few overs of left are orthodox, punters not the worst offie in the world. we have played worse bowlers than him since Warnie :lol: and of course for a bit of variety Pup could throw the ball to another guy whos got a 6 for in test cricket with the his chinamans in Kato :oops: ...or perhaps not :)
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby Pup » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:07 pm

stan wrote:
Pup wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Media Park wrote:Did bugger all, cept tear out a SL board team on the tour over there... Bowls slower than McGrath did at the end of his career, and doesn't have the accuracy or variations in his arsenal.
Siddle is my boy, he bursts in all day, just as fast in the first over of the day as the last, and can take a bag at Test level.

Ryan Harris is a dominant Test match bowler, simple as that. The only hard part is getting the prick fit enough for a full series.

With you there, massive Siddle fan. Would still be my first picked bowler.


Not for me.

Trys hard and gives his all but still not highly rated from my point of view.


On the South African pitches, hell yes. He is like Harris and they are both exactly what is needed to take wickets over there. I would almost look at picking 4 quicks for matches over there.


I think he should be in the side over there but definately not one of my first picks in the side and on good batting wickets he struggles IMO
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby stan » Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:22 pm

wristwatcher wrote:
CoverKing wrote:I feel we need a spinner. We have the ability to have four quicks with Watson so a bit of variety is needed.



I reckon Pup could role the arm over himself for a few overs of left are orthodox, punters not the worst offie in the world. we have played worse bowlers than him since Warnie :lol: and of course for a bit of variety Pup could throw the ball to another guy whos got a 6 for in test cricket with the his chinamans in Kato :oops: ...or perhaps not :)


Pup could role the arm over with a rolling pin to get the pies ready that he normally sends down :)
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby hearts on fire » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:43 pm

If Mitchell Johnson does not do ANYTHING this series. HE NEEDS TO GO!

Everytime i watch cricket, i just cringe everytime i see him.
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby brod » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:24 pm

Australians chasing 212 to win are 0/38

Mitchell Johnson ends up with
4/38
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby stampy » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:51 pm

watson and marsh have decided to tee off, 1/102, partnership 61 in 8 overs

watto 54
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby NFC » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:55 pm

stan wrote:
Pup wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Media Park wrote:Did bugger all, cept tear out a SL board team on the tour over there... Bowls slower than McGrath did at the end of his career, and doesn't have the accuracy or variations in his arsenal.
Siddle is my boy, he bursts in all day, just as fast in the first over of the day as the last, and can take a bag at Test level.

Ryan Harris is a dominant Test match bowler, simple as that. The only hard part is getting the prick fit enough for a full series.

With you there, massive Siddle fan. Would still be my first picked bowler.


Not for me.

Trys hard and gives his all but still not highly rated from my point of view.


On the South African pitches, hell yes. He is like Harris and they are both exactly what is needed to take wickets over there. I would almost look at picking 4 quicks for matches over there.

Fine, play Siddle in South Africa, but he plays no where else. Deal?
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby wristwatcher » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:25 pm

brod wrote:Australians chasing 212 to win are 0/38

Mitchell Johnson ends up with
4/38
5/74



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Australia in South Africa

Postby the joker » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:39 pm

hearts on fire wrote:If Mitchell Johnson does not do ANYTHING this series. HE NEEDS TO GO!

Everytime i watch cricket, i just cringe everytime i see him.

he is the best bowler in australia
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby Media Park » Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:14 am

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hearts on fire wrote:If Mitchell Johnson does not do ANYTHING this series. HE NEEDS TO GO!

Everytime i watch cricket, i just cringe everytime i see him.

he is the best bowler in australia when bowling in south africa

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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby Media Park » Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:15 am

Watson 77 (73 balls) and Marsh 73 not out, we win.
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby stan » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:40 am

The thing about Johnson is that he can bowl spells so bad that I would probably take him for runs, then he can come o and bowl a few overs that some of the best batsmen in the world will fall over. And thats why you pick him, his good spells are bloody good and really he has that x factor that can take the wickets. I know his crap spells are like nails on chalk boards, but at the moment the good stuff is said to be worth it.

The issue will be when his good spells become less and less frequent, then in my opinion he needs to be looked at.

And also by the way he is not an allrounder. He is a Left arm quick who can bat a little. Thats it, average 30 ish with the ball at test level which is not bad, and is not an allrounder. Just a bowler that bats a bit.
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby valleys07 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:42 am

stan wrote:And also by the way he is not an allrounder. He is a Left arm quick who can bat a little. Thats it, average 30 ish with the ball at test level which is not bad, and is not an allrounder. Just a bowler that bats a bit.


Exactly, his bowling is what needs to be judged, not his batting. Any runs he scores is a bonus to us. I for one hope he has a ripper series over there heading into the Aus summer.
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby NFC » Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:06 pm

Johnson's good spells are too far apart. Absolute pie chucker. He's decent in South Africa, so keep him for this series, and for the test in Perth, everywhere else he can go back to the Warriors.
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby Media Park » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:15 pm

Mitchell Johnson
Career: 45 tests, 1186 runs at 20.80, one century, six fifties, 187 wickets at 30.43, BBI 8/61
Vs RSA: 6 tests, 401 runs at 57.28, one century, 33 wickets at 25.45, BBI 8/61
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby stan » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:38 am

Media Park wrote:Mitchell Johnson
Career: 45 tests, 1186 runs at 20.80, one century, six fifties, 187 wickets at 30.43, BBI 8/61
Vs RSA: 6 tests, 401 runs at 57.28, one century, 33 wickets at 25.45, BBI 8/61


Not bad stats.
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby smac » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:07 am

Some would say he's an elite all rounder with those stats. If it were someone elses stats. ;)
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Re: Australia in South Africa

Postby Media Park » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:55 am

smac wrote:Some would say he's an elite all rounder with those stats. If it were someone elses stats. ;)

He's an elite all-rounder against South Africa.
He's an average-to-good cricketer against the rest.
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