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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby Strawb » Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:58 pm

damn tail order come on get out and bring on the second test
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby RoosterMarty » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:01 pm

Strawb07 wrote:damn tail order come on get out and bring on the second test



You have your wish. Another wicket for MJ.

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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby the joker » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:01 pm

what can india do in the second test to be competetive???
Sehwag to open dravid to 4 and Yuvraj Singh dropped. but Yuvraj Singh got 160 in the last test. i think they will go in unchanged atleast for the second test. it will be different if they bat first in sydney and make some runs and have the two spinners
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby Strawb » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:04 pm

I am looking forward to the test in Perth. :twisted:
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby rod_rooster » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:08 pm

locky801 wrote:Hells Bells can't keep up, another gone

Indians now 9/157

RR looks like you are about a session out of your prediction


Only half a session :lol: Maybe i should have given India a little more credit :oops:
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby locky801 » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:18 pm

the joker wrote:what can india do in the second test to be competetive???
Sehwag to open dravid to 4 and Yuvraj Singh dropped. but Yuvraj Singh got 160 in the last test. i think they will go in unchanged atleast for the second test. it will be different if they bat first in sydney and make some runs and have the two spinners



IMHO Sehwag has to play, he takes risks sure but if they come off it goes in their favour, as much as I love Dravids batting when he is in form he is the one that has to go, as has been mentioned on this forum about Hanson Rd, he is slower than the women down there, overall I didn't think the Indian bowling was too bad at all, their fielding not up to scratch although they did catch well, just not enough pressure and the aussies got lots of easy singles Thought Laxman, Ganguly and Tendulkar were obviously a class above the rest of their batsman and all three looked pretty well in awesome form, just in both innings made one mistake and paid.

Reckon the aussies will go into the next test unchanged, well once again we have a cricket match that doesn't go the distance, thats about as close as you will get in comparison with the Aussie and South Aussie cricket side
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby Pup » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:31 pm

Virender and Pathan in and RP Singh and Yuvraj or Jaffer out IMO. (Most likely Yuraj if they make a change) would be the way i would go.

Sehwag
Dravid
Laxman
Sachin
Ganguly
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Pathan
Kumble
Singh
Khan

That side bats very deep with test centurions up to 9. Or they could drop Yuvraj and go with a side like this,

Jaffer
Sehwag
Dravid
Sachin
Ganguly
Laxman
Dhoni
Pathan
Kumble
Singh
Khan

Personally i would like to see the first side in action, It would be very hard on Jaffer who had an excellent series against Pakistan. I just think Dravid is more suited to take on and beat the Australians than Jaffer is. Second side may be a little more balanced though with Dravid in the middle. I wonder which way they will go.
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby (S)aintbackline » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:09 pm

locky801 wrote:
the joker wrote:what can india do in the second test to be competetive???
Sehwag to open dravid to 4 and Yuvraj Singh dropped. but Yuvraj Singh got 160 in the last test. i think they will go in unchanged atleast for the second test. it will be different if they bat first in sydney and make some runs and have the two spinners



IMHO Sehwag has to play, he takes risks sure but if they come off it goes in their favour, as much as I love Dravids batting when he is in form he is the one that has to go, as has been mentioned on this forum about Hanson Rd, he is slower than the women down there, overall I didn't think the Indian bowling was too bad at all, their fielding not up to scratch although they did catch well, just not enough pressure and the aussies got lots of easy singles Thought Laxman, Ganguly and Tendulkar were obviously a class above the rest of their batsman and all three looked pretty well in awesome form, just in both innings made one mistake and paid.

Reckon the aussies will go into the next test unchanged, well once again we have a cricket match that doesn't go the distance, thats about as close as you will get in comparison with the Aussie and South Aussie cricket side


Maybe they should have a go at getting a higher RRPO so that the Aussie bowlers have to change their style instead of the batsmen just blocking all day.
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby locky801 » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:22 pm

In your second side Pup, Laxman at 6 is way too low, should be at 3, he is all quality when on song, put him at 6 and their tail collapses at it did in Melbourne he will be about 10 not out
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby redwhiteandblueblooded » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:30 pm

hondo71 wrote:Kumble's bowling is well suited to Australian pitches because he is a leg-spinner (most offies struggle here) and his height gives him great bounce


"leg Spinner"?All this bloke bowls are 100km/hr top spinners and wrong-uns. If he gets a ball to move from leg to off its because its hit a crack!
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby RustyCage » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:30 pm

locky801 wrote:In your second side Pup, Laxman at 6 is way too low, should be at 3, he is all quality when on song, put him at 6 and their tail collapses at it did in Melbourne he will be about 10 not out


I think Dravid is one of the great #3 in the game in the last however many years, no way is he an opener, drop him to 3
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby Stumps » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:54 am

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locky801 wrote:In your second side Pup, Laxman at 6 is way too low, should be at 3, he is all quality when on song, put him at 6 and their tail collapses at it did in Melbourne he will be about 10 not out


I think Dravid is one of the great #3 in the game in the last however many years, no way is he an opener, drop him to 3


He faced about 170 balls for the match- dont know why people are questioning his ability opening- IMO he is a class act and will be able to bat anywhere. If he bats and 3 and a wicket goes in the first over should he put someone else in?
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby locky801 » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:28 pm

Funny thing about batting at number 3, over the years there have been some class bats at number 3 but have then been promoted to open and have failed dismally. Ian Chappell for one I can recall, heard him speak about it the other day, and he hated opening, says batting at 3 is totally different to opening, even if you come in on the 2nd ball of the innings. I batted in both spots and didn't see any difference, I was hopeless at both :D
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby Hondo » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:45 pm

Australia also have some number 3's that have become great openers ...... Boon, Marsh, Langer
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby locky801 » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:47 pm

hondo71 wrote:Australia also have some number 3's that have become great openers ...... Boon, Marsh, Langer




Very true :wink:
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby Grahaml » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:34 pm

I think Laxman is the best choice number 3 for India at the moment. He has an exellent record in and generally against Australia, particularly at number 3. I would play Sehwag (based purely on the fact that he's the bloke I fear most as an opener for India), but apparently he's not even in any sort of domestic form in India. Apparently at the start of rht year Dinesh Kartik was playing well as an opener, so they might think about him. Dravid needs to go down the order, but 6 won't suit him. I think he should play 5, and Ganguly 6. Yuvraj looked awful and even had a big sulk in each innings. He might have scored a superb 100 in the Pakistan series, but he won't score a run in Oz. So I'd have:

Jaffer
Sehwag/Kartik
Laxman
Tendulkar
Dravid
Ganguly
Dhoni
Kumble
Harbajhan
Khan
Singh

Think the bowlers deserve to hold their spots. Singh was unlucky not to get early wickets on the first morning, so despite poor figures I'd give him another crack.
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby Pup » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:40 pm

Grahaml wrote:Think the bowlers deserve to hold their spots. Singh was unlucky not to get early wickets on the first morning, so despite poor figures I'd give him another crack.


Khan bowled very well on the first morning, RP bowled rubbish for the whole first innings.
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:14 pm

Still don't think the Indians are much chop,if they are to win Australia have to play at their worst and the Indians at their best and I can't see that happening anytime soon. Sehwag has to play, he is what their batting needs. Btw by batting averages put the Indian top 7 batsmen against the Australian top 7. India are not the best batting side in world cricket as much as every one says they are imo. Sure the current Australian batting top order is not as strong as it was 5 years ago but still is the best going around.When was the last time you saw Australia skittled for under 200 twice in 1 test??
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby Hondo » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:23 pm

I think we are too good for them at home but it would be much, much closer if we played in India in these post-Warnie days
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Re: 1st test- Australia Vs India

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:30 pm

Jaffer- Still fresh to International Cricket, even though he made his debut in 2000,Aussies will
eat him alive all series
Sehwag- Class act, bugger me how he did not play the first test (I hope he was injured). Crowd
puller and a fearless stroke player
Tendulkar- Still a class act but no where as good as he was 8-10 years ago.Never less the best
batsman in the Indian line up
Dravid- Strangely down on confidence,great player but does not seem any where as intimidating
as he was 3-4 years ago
Laxmann- Ill be controvercial here,sure he did play the best test innings I have ever seen
(281 @ Eden Gardens in 2001) but he is terribly over-rated imo. Averages bout 43 and
been playing test cricket on the most batsman friendly pitches in world cricket for over
10 years.Played well against Australia in the past but Aussies go on about him like hes
Viv Richards,far from it........
Ganguly- Good 1 day player,does not value his wicket in tests.Also poor test average for a player
who has been playing for as long as he has.
Dhoni- Seems like a weapon,but will see how he handles Australian pitches.

Australia has not lost a test series at home since 92/93 (Should have won that too,f*****g D.Hair),will not come to an end any time soon.......
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