SA Premier League Cricket

[Shark_Hunter]

Rumour has it the following people will be in charge of the SA sides next season:
West: Coach - Palmer, Ass. Coach & Captain - Kelly
East: Coach - Cameron, Ass. Coach and Captain - Brown
North: Coach - Thompson, Ass. Coach and Captain - TBA
South: Coach - TBA (probably not Juddy..haha), Ass. Coach and Captain - Borgas

SH, you have made all that up, I can't see Trent or Jason (Cameron?) playing at all, close to or past 30, both huge club men for respective clubs. Now I know who Cameron is obviously, but Porter & Vincent, know a few people by those names, but no one that would be in consideration for these jobs. Porter - State Physio perhaps, Vincent do you mean Vaughan. Anyone within the Redbacks structure will not get the jobs, plus they are not offering that much money, bit more than your normal grade coach would get.

Heater - Dean Sayers getting told in a letter that he is not required in 13/14, forget his phone number or that he trains the club two days a week, explanation please before lauching into tirade of unprofessional abuse.

Sorry - got a few names wrong, my recollection of names is not what it used to be (too many concussions).
Certainly didn't make it up tho mate, but given my mistakes can see your reaction is warrented.
Palmer, not Porter - got my JPs mixed up....
Thompson, not Vincent - got my Russell's mixed up....

As for the senior players of grade cricket (Kelly etc) - the SACA wants these guys involved. Whether they accedpt or not is another story.

[oldeagle]

Russell Vincent would have been entertaining.

[Footy Smart]

interesting article

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/cricket/controversial-plan-to-revitalise-south-australian-cricket/story-e6frg7rx-1226534018867

UK Fan you will like the last paragraph

[heater31]

interesting article

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/cricket/controversial-plan-to-revitalise-south-australian-cricket/story-e6frg7rx-1226534018867

UK Fan you will like the last paragraph

Grade Clubs will not be seeing any extra funds until the new Oval is generating revenue. From what I hear some club representatives can not get that through their thick skulls that the money is coming from the revenue generated by the new stadium


I still can't see how this new concept is going to be beneficial long term.

[smac]

Not quite right Heater.

The extra funds was the absence of interest payments on the Western Grandstand. During the redevelopment there are either no events or events with a reduced capacity that simply erode traditional SACA income, squaring the ledger (roughly) between what is saved and what is not earned.

Good to see Barry Jarman so protective of the structure that hasn't provided a test cricketer sincen Lehman & Gillespie and (correct me if I am wrong) only 4 test cricketers to play more than 30 tests EVER.

[heater31]

Not quite right Heater.

The extra funds was the absence of interest payments on the Western Grandstand. During the redevelopment there are either no events or events with a reduced capacity that simply erode traditional SACA income, squaring the ledger (roughly) between what is saved and what is not earned.

Good to see Barry Jarman so protective of the structure that hasn't provided a test cricketer sincen Lehman & Gillespie and (correct me if I am wrong) only 4 test cricketers to play more than 30 tests EVER.

Sorry I was short circuiting a bit of bull dust. But in short it was due to the lack of revenue until it was all completed. Some clubs were expecting cheques immediately

[Aerie]

Not quite right Heater.

The extra funds was the absence of interest payments on the Western Grandstand. During the redevelopment there are either no events or events with a reduced capacity that simply erode traditional SACA income, squaring the ledger (roughly) between what is saved and what is not earned.

Good to see Barry Jarman so protective of the structure that hasn't provided a test cricketer sincen Lehman & Gillespie and (correct me if I am wrong) only 4 test cricketers to play more than 30 tests EVER.

Pretty sure this structure has produced just about every Test cricketer in Australia...

But am looking forward to 10 years time after the effects of this Premier League has kicked in and half the national side is South Australian (or NT/PNG/Indigenous) and we're winning Shield after Shield.

[Bulls forever]

Not quite right Heater.

The extra funds was the absence of interest payments on the Western Grandstand. During the redevelopment there are either no events or events with a reduced capacity that simply erode traditional SACA income, squaring the ledger (roughly) between what is saved and what is not earned.

Good to see Barry Jarman so protective of the structure that hasn't provided a test cricketer sincen Lehman & Gillespie and (correct me if I am wrong) only 4 test cricketers to play more than 30 tests EVER.

Time to move on SMAC, I am quite sure that every Test Player has played Grade cricket on their way up, as rightly pointed out, whether the structure / team numbers are right is the current debate, me, BJ and everyone else associated with GC knows that this PL will only continue until the restructure is complete, ie probably 10 Grade Teams. So looking forward to the extra money, teams can splash a lot more money on interstate recruits. Modesty prevents me from naming clubs, but I am sure you GC followers know who they are. The extra money, when it does flow, will be very accountable, ie coaching, development, facilities, community clubs, etc. In the mean time, continue to work your butt off to generate funds.

[smac]

The last part, mentioning BJ, was probably unnecessary.

But to believe that what we've done in SA has provided terrific results is a bit of a stretch IMO. Who was played 30+ tests and is from SA?

We underachieve and refuse to face up to it. Now something is coming in to get around the system that has underachieved and people shitcan it. At least it's an attempt at doing something different!

Aerie - compare the SA Grade cricket structure to that in other states. The words "Grade Cricket" mean many different things across Australia. If we get it right then it can deliver but clubs refusing to make tough decisions about numbers of teams within the comp and number of teams within each club will never get us anywhere.

[bulldogproud2]

Not quite right Heater.

The extra funds was the absence of interest payments on the Western Grandstand. During the redevelopment there are either no events or events with a reduced capacity that simply erode traditional SACA income, squaring the ledger (roughly) between what is saved and what is not earned.

Good to see Barry Jarman so protective of the structure that hasn't provided a test cricketer sincen Lehman & Gillespie and (correct me if I am wrong) only 4 test cricketers to play more than 30 tests EVER.

Smac, have their been 80 Australians who have played more than 30 tests each?
If not, then South Australia has been pulling its weight. We only have 1/20th of the population and therefore can only be expected to produce 1/20th of the country's Test players.
Yes, there are problems with SA cricket but you have to remember that we were within one wicket of hosting the Shield final this year and extremely close to the Ryobi Cup final.

Cheers

[Footy Smart]

Not quite right Heater.

The extra funds was the absence of interest payments on the Western Grandstand. During the redevelopment there are either no events or events with a reduced capacity that simply erode traditional SACA income, squaring the ledger (roughly) between what is saved and what is not earned.

Good to see Barry Jarman so protective of the structure that hasn't provided a test cricketer sincen Lehman & Gillespie and (correct me if I am wrong) only 4 test cricketers to play more than 30 tests EVER.

Smac, have their been 80 Australians who have played more than 30 tests each?
If not, then South Australia has been pulling its weight. We only have 1/20th of the population and therefore can only be expected to produce 1/20th of the country's Test players.
Yes, there are problems with SA cricket but you have to remember that we were within one wicket of hosting the Shield final this year and extremely close to the Ryobi Cup final.

Cheers

How many Australian U19 reps have had in the past few years?

if anything the SACA should be looking at ther High Performance team and the shocking managment of the talent we have had in the past 5-10 years

[Willo]

I think SACA High Performance has looked at the past and have made significant improvements this year.

Seems to have coincided with the appointment of Tim Nielsen, and they are definitely heading in the right direction.

Starting with the Redbacks, they are finally giving home grown talent a go, with guys like Head, Brown, Sayers, etc, plus several others close to games in the next year or so like Kelvin Smith, etc.

Chuck in their results in National Championships this season (Under 19's 1st, Under 17's 4th, Under 15's 2nd and Under 12's equal 2nd) and you cant complain about this.

Hopefully they are on the right track now, they are certainly doing lots of positive stuff behind the scenes which all goes well for the future!

[Footy Smart]

I think SACA High Performance has looked at the past and have made significant improvements this year.

Seems to have coincided with the appointment of Tim Nielsen, and they are definitely heading in the right direction.

Starting with the Redbacks, they are finally giving home grown talent a go, with guys like Head, Brown, Sayers, etc, plus several others close to games in the next year or so like Kelvin Smith, etc.

Chuck in their results in National Championships this season (Under 19's 1st, Under 17's 4th, Under 15's 2nd and Under 12's equal 2nd) and you cant complain about this.

Hopefully they are on the right track now, they are certainly doing lots of positive stuff behind the scenes which all goes well for the future!

All premier league is doing is taking valuable resources from grade cricket (which has improved in recent years) and when the PL falls over GC will take time to recover - for no reason!

[Willo]

No doubt, Footy Smart, you are very passionate about your Club, as we all our.

Think the Premier League will work, potentially only affecting 3 weekends for the season.

Everything else around SACA with High Performance, etc has improved greatly this year, just have to trust they are doing the right thing. Negative talk from some Clubs will be detrimental.

I believe they are, and it will definitely be a winner.

Only time will tell!!

[am Bays]

Since 1980 there have been 125 test caps awarded, our grade system has developed ten of them (T Chappell (when playing for NSW), Phillips, May, Blewett, Gillespie, Lehman, Tait, Cullen, Manou and George, the last three are them are one test wonders.
I'm not counting the imports - McIntyre, Lyons and Wilson

Tasmania with a third of our population has produced six from its grade systems (Wooley, Campbell, Ponting, Young, Paine and Doherty) Once again not counting the ring ins Cowan, Krejza etc

I can't be ar5ed counting all the WA debutants since 1980, a state roughly our population size: Alderman, Yardley, Hogan, Marsh, Reid, Zoehrer, Valetta, Moody - eight in the 80s alone, then Martyn, Langer, Angel, Julian....

Yep our grade system aint broke....

[Jim05]

Since 1980 there have been 125 test caps awarded, our grade system has developed ten of them (T Chappell (when playing for NSW), Phillips, May, Blewett, Gillespie, Lehman, Tait, Cullen, Manou and George, the last three are them are one test wonders.
I'm not counting the imports - McIntyre, Lyons and Wilson

Tasmania with a third of our population has produced six from its grade systems (Wooley, Campbell, Ponting, Young, Paine and Doherty) Once again not counting the ring ins Cowan, Krejza etc

I can't be ar5ed counting all the WA debutants since 1980, a state roughly our population size: Alderman, Yardley, Hogan, Marsh, Reid, Zoehrer, Valetta, Moody - eight in the 80s alone, then Martyn, Langer, Angel, Julian....

Yep our grade system aint broke....

Throw in Kat and Marcus North, probably others aswell but totally agree.
We have a very poor record of supplying test cricketers over the last 30 years.

[Willo]

You make too much sense AM Bays!!

The time is now to try an idea like the Premier League.

Unfortunately some Grade Club people have blinkers on, the more people you speak too though they are slowly coming around.

Fast forward a couple of years it will be the best thing for SA Cricket, cant be any worse than it has been the last umpteen years anyway!

[whufc]

Since 1980 there have been 125 test caps awarded, our grade system has developed ten of them (T Chappell (when playing for NSW), Phillips, May, Blewett, Gillespie, Lehman, Tait, Cullen, Manou and George, the last three are them are one test wonders.
I'm not counting the imports - McIntyre, Lyons and Wilson

Tasmania with a third of our population has produced six from its grade systems (Wooley, Campbell, Ponting, Young, Paine and Doherty) Once again not counting the ring ins Cowan, Krejza etc

I can't be ar5ed counting all the WA debutants since 1980, a state roughly our population size: Alderman, Yardley, Hogan, Marsh, Reid, Zoehrer, Valetta, Moody - eight in the 80s alone, then Martyn, Langer, Angel, Julian....

Yep our grade system aint broke....

Throw in Kat and Marcus North, probably others aswell but totally agree.
We have a very poor record of supplying test cricketers over the last 30 years.

Was the left arm pacemen Matt Nicholson originally from WA, Chris Rogers debuted while he was at Western Australia, ummmm Adam Gilchrist selected from the WA side. While he is junk even Beer got a test appearance.

Mike Hussey anyone.

[The Dark Knight]

Since 1980 there have been 125 test caps awarded, our grade system has developed ten of them (T Chappell (when playing for NSW), Phillips, May, Blewett, Gillespie, Lehman, Tait, Cullen, Manou and George, the last three are them are one test wonders.
I'm not counting the imports - McIntyre, Lyons and Wilson

Tasmania with a third of our population has produced six from its grade systems (Wooley, Campbell, Ponting, Young, Paine and Doherty) Once again not counting the ring ins Cowan, Krejza etc

I can't be ar5ed counting all the WA debutants since 1980, a state roughly our population size: Alderman, Yardley, Hogan, Marsh, Reid, Zoehrer, Valetta, Moody - eight in the 80s alone, then Martyn, Langer, Angel, Julian....

Yep our grade system aint broke....

Throw in Kat and Marcus North, probably others aswell but totally agree.
We have a very poor record of supplying test cricketers over the last 30 years.

Was the left arm pacemen Matt Nicholson originally from WA, Chris Rogers debuted while he was at Western Australia, ummmm Adam Gilchrist selected from the WA side. While he is junk even Beer got a test appearance.

Mike Hussey anyone.

He was right handed and was born in NSW.

[whufc]

Did he play for WA at some point.