SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby rod_rooster » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:40 pm

hondo71 wrote:
I reckon we should be supporting the guy and the team rather than champing at the bit to jump him all season long. We can't go back in time and un-appoint him.

I personally hope he makes some runs I don't want to see him have to resign the captaincy or get dropped as Captain. The team has enough other problems without having to find someone else to do the job.


I completely agree with this hondo. I wouldn't like to see SA have to sack the captain but he needs to pull his weight or at least some of it. Just a 30 or 40 would even help. Fingers crossed Nathan can come out and prove me wrong. A big hundred in the upcoming Pura Cup game would be very nice. He has the talent he has just continually failed to use it for a decade. The time is now.
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby brod » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:04 am

You just want the poor bloke to make a good score (50+) so he and the rest of the team can stop having to worry about this whole issue. At the moment the side is struggling and need to focus on what THEY as PLAYERS can control.
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby brod » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:07 am

another grub wrote:What a complete joke that was!
If Dalmont is the best young bat we have we are going to strugle for a lot of years..... did he back NSW?
Just goes to show why the redbacks are a disgrace to SA.... Elliot should have made Sweet FA....
in 1 word.....

PATHETIC


I surely didnt find it too funny AG.
Another word starting with P comes to mind for me
PLEASING
SA struggled through the game, espcially at the death in each innings, but won.
Well done guys, keep it up.
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby NFC » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:23 am

Late reply, but Delmont isn't up to it yet and it's hard to say whether he ever will. He did make a half century against the Tassie Tigers so maybe there's hope but he was all at sea against the Blues on Wednesday night. 10 off 29 when he needed to score at about a run a ball? He was deplorable off the spinners and looked almost as bad against the pacemen. I had high hopes for him considering he's young and had done well in grade cricket and for SA 2nd XI but my word he looked terrible.
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby rod_rooster » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:31 am

NFC wrote:Late reply, but Delmont isn't up to it yet and it's hard to say whether he ever will. He did make a half century against the Tassie Tigers so maybe there's hope but he was all at sea against the Blues on Wednesday night. 10 off 29 when he needed to score at about a run a ball? He was deplorable off the spinners and looked almost as bad against the pacemen. I had high hopes for him considering he's young and had done well in grade cricket and for SA 2nd XI but my word he looked terrible.


Hooray someone agrees with me :)

I think Delmont has talent and i think he will be a handy player for SA but he was awful on Wednesday.
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby locky801 » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:59 am

Delmont is very young, probably the first time he has been batting under real pressure, probably the first time he had batted under lights, well decent lights anyway. I think he will make it. He is one of these kids I think you leave in the side for the season to see how he develops.
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:31 am

Been watching the test so haven't had a chance to talk about this game and there are plenty to bag Delmont but in the end he didn't get out, you won the game and he faced real pressure for the first time in his career. Yep, he's got a way to go but the points are in the bag for the Redbacks.

My gripe goes to Matthew Mott who needs a kick up the arse in my view. Our fielding is bloody awful and while we continue to field as poorly as we are we will continue to lose one day matches. In all honesty we did not deserve to defeat South Australia with the effort we put up.

It's one thing to miss tough chances and yes we did that, but we are also missing regulation catches as well. You can sense the lack of confidence in the Blueboys whenever they go to field a ball. Time and time again men in Blue shirts were running AROUND the ball instead of attacking it. That coupled with some strangely deep field settings allowed a clearly exhausted Matty Elliott to just plonk the ball down the ground nearly all night long. Attack the bloody ball.

So why bag the coach? Well, in the interview I saw on Fox he said that they had been working hard on the fielding defieciences but the team was not switching on at the correct time which implies they field like Roger Harper at practice and like Duleep Doshi during matches. It is the coaches job to make sure the focus is applied at the correct time in matches.

Plenty of people have questioned our attack but Bollinger, Bracken, Cameron, Nicholson, O'Keeffe and Hauritz is a good enough attack but if you can't catch you won't win matches. Very disappointing. This team has forgotten how to win one day matches and it's Mott has a tough job to teach them how to remember.

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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby Pup » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:54 am

Preview for Pura Cup

Like REB said with the Test match on it is easy to forget there are 3 important Pura Cup games starting today.

Form

Well the Redbacks finally got some points in the ODI comp on Wed night but also showed how easily they can fall apart. While they were ok on Wednesday there form in the longer form of the game has been pretty ordinary, they sit bottom on the Pura Cup table while NSW are on top. Both teams fielding has been terrible and needs to improve 100%

Key Players

SA- Matthew Elliot- It is well known that i am a fan of Elliot but this is a game he really needs to put a stamp on, he has been great in the Franger but has let a lot of people down with his form in the longer form of the game, A big century here will set up the Redbacks and also help him get a few monkeys of his back.

Mark Cosgrove- Showed his talent again on Wed night but his weight really concerns me, he seems to be getting bigger everytime i see him, he has an amazing amount of talent, i just hope he doesnt waste it. He is also very important up the top for SA. If he fires so does the team normally so lets hope he does that.

Nathan Adcock- Is being criticised far and wide for his form and needs to come up with the goods, he does have the ability IMO and this is the game he needs to show it, if he continues to fail he is going to hard pressed to get a game and as captain that would make things very awkard. If 3 of the top 4 fire then SA are on the right track.

NSW- Brad Haddin- He needs to score runs otherwise more often than not NSW are going to fail. IMO this team rests squarely on the shoulders of him and Katich, If These two batsmen are dismissed early then they are in a lot of trouble, particularly with no Phil Jaques up top and with a much weaker bowling attack than the start of the year.

Simon Katich- See Above.

Nathan Bracken- No Clark, No MacGill, He and Bollinger are the strike bowlers and need to take wickets early, because if they let Elliot, Lehmann and Cosgrove get away they could be chasing a very big score.

My Tip
I dont know what has come over me but i have a feeling SA might take the points in this one, if they can knock over Haddin and Katich expect them to be a big show. Lehmann to make a century and Elliot to break his form slump in the 4 day form.
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:22 am

Disagree with the Pup on this one. NSW have been playing far superior cricket in the long form of the game for a number of seasons now and I expect this continue at the Oval over the weekend. As I mentioned in my post above the NSW attack is sound but the same can't be said of SA's batting order.

The Redbacks top order looks wobbly and I believe they rely on Lehmann a hell of a lot - at least the Blues have Katich and Haddin to rely on. I had a really good look at Elliott for the first time in a number of seasons the other night and it seemed pretty clear to me he is nowhere near the player he was in his prime and this should not be evident during an innings when he was making runs. His previous scoring strength of down the ground is now nearly non-existent and while you might get away with this in a one day match it isn't on in the Moo Moo and his poor Moo Moo figures relect this.

Cosgrove can be a decent weapon for the backs but sorry boys these days he's just a fat slogger. Last time I saw him he had his arm in a sling so he won't be going in fully fit but what's new? This young man is loading the dice against himself. Nathan Adcock, while talented is clearly overburdened by the responsibilites of leadership and Delmont didn't show me anything to suggest he'd hurt the Blues. Perhaps the biggest threats will be Manou and Dizzy. Manou plays his shots and Dizzy must be thinking 'how easy is this'!

For the Blues expect the secret weapon to be Mark Cameron. With a four pronged pace attack of Bracken, Bollinger, Cameron and a rested Nicholson along with the inform and improved Hauritz, I expect the Blues to have the firepower to dismiss the Redbacks twice and take the outright points in Adelaide.

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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby mal » Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:30 am

The incessive criticism of DELMONT is over the top
Here we have a kid playing in his 2nd or 3rd one day game and his first under lights.
Sure he looked ordinary on the night but give him time to develop please.
At least he kept his wicket in intact.
I had the pleasure to see him bat in a 2nd eleven game v NSW and he looked very good
He has an immaculate defence,plays very straight and has a future.
Also made a 50 in his first interstate game v TAS in the P/cup
Has a couple of grade tons as well.
He is a very good batsman.

I suggest the critics rightfully focus on some more established players who play below
thier capabilities at times and allow this fine young cricketer to blossom.

PURA CUP GAME

BAILEY in TAIT out
SA must play CLEARY and not 2 spinners
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby heater31 » Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:36 am

mal wrote:The incessive criticism of DELMONT is over the top
Here we have a kid playing in his 2nd or 3rd one day game and his first under lights.
Sure he looked ordinary on the night but give him time to develop please.
At least he kept his wicket in intact.
I had the pleasure to see him bat in a 2nd eleven game v NSW and he looked very good
He has an immaculate defence,plays very straight and has a future.
Also made a 50 in his first interstate game v TAS in the P/cup
Has a couple of grade tons as well.
He is a very good batsman.

I suggest the critics rightfully focus on some more established players who play below
thier capabilities at times and allow this fine young cricketer to blossom.

PURA CUP GAME

BAILEY in TAIT out
SA must play CLEARY and not 2 spinners



If they play on the same pitch as Wednesday night Bailey will play, If a new deck then Clearly will play his first game of the season.


Adcock must bat 6 and Manou must follow up is Tassie monster score with another solid contribution. Dizzy just keep making runs
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby Pup » Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:43 am

Like i said REB i dont know what came over to pick the Redbacks, but i have and i will stick by that. I Agree with a lot of what you said. Especially the part about NSW can rely on Katich and Haddin while SA only hope they can rely on Lehmann, Elliot and Cosgrove.
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby THE MOLE » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:32 am

Well SA might struggle then, boof late withdrawal with back spasms
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby Stumps » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:36 am

Cowan to get a century- looked excellent in ODI although couldnt hit them off the square
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby heater31 » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:43 am

SA batting 0/5 after 4

C.Borgas and C.Ferguson ins

Bailey the drinks man
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:44 am

Cowan is technically good but doesn't have a lot of power, at least in the innings I have watched him in.

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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby RustyCage » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:45 am

Grahaml wrote:Lehmann would have been straight because his lack of speed across the ground would be better used there where he can take his time, rather than square where 2 metres can mean the difference between 1 and 4. Luckily Adcock understands these things better than you do.

Just because the selectors pick him doesn't mean they're happy with everything. Just means they think he's more value in the team for now than someone else.


Lehmann is a very good fielder inside the circle and has fielded there for many years very successfully. Instead they had Delmont who so far seems a very unreliable fielder. Having Lehmann down the ground meant they were able to expliot his lack of speed by hitting it down there and running two. Boof isn't quick but he has reflexes like a cat and an excellent cricketing brain and put himself in the right place at the right time. When Lehmann was captain and he could put himself anywhere he wanted, how often did be put himself on the boundary straight down the ground? Never, because he is not that stupid. Luckily, he understood that better than you.
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby RustyCage » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:52 am

rod_rooster wrote:
NFC wrote:Late reply, but Delmont isn't up to it yet and it's hard to say whether he ever will. He did make a half century against the Tassie Tigers so maybe there's hope but he was all at sea against the Blues on Wednesday night. 10 off 29 when he needed to score at about a run a ball? He was deplorable off the spinners and looked almost as bad against the pacemen. I had high hopes for him considering he's young and had done well in grade cricket and for SA 2nd XI but my word he looked terrible.


Hooray someone agrees with me :)

I think Delmont has talent and i think he will be a handy player for SA but he was awful on Wednesday.


Agree, same with Manou. They were too cautious which wasn't required as we still had two batsman plus Dizzy to bat. Delmont really needs to work on his fielding, but seems handy with the bat. Hope he is able to score quicker when required though.
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby colliver69 » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:52 am

Hey Pup who is the chick in your profile - Lee Furlonge?
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Re: SA V NSW PREVIEWS 07/11 0/D GAME + 9/11 PC GAME + GOSSIP

Postby locky801 » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:54 am

THE MOLE wrote:Well SA might struggle then, boof late withdrawal with back spasms



Oh well Dizzy will have to get a double ton this game then :D
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