Australia vs Sri Lanka 3rd test At the SCG

[dedja]

Huss drops the catch ... thank Christ it's his last Test

[Brodlach]

1/42 at drinks

[Johno6]

Huss drops the catch ... thank Christ it's his last Test

That's being kind. I don't reckon he even touched it lol

[Brodlach]

Bird picks up Dilshan then takes a wicket next ball but a referal

[Brodlach]

Given not out, pitched outside leg

2/72

[The Sleeping Giant]

That's the good side of the referral system.

[Q.]

What % of the ball needs to pitch on leg for it to be given out?

[Banker]

But it didnt pitch outside leg. Half of the ball was hitting leg stump!

[Q.]

But it didnt pitch outside leg. Half of the ball was hitting leg stump!

So does the entire ball need to pitch on leg?

[DOC]

The rules state about it being pitched between wicket and wicket with no reference to "how much" of the ball. I think the refferal system uses half a ball so maybe the rule o thumb is better than half.

[bulldog2004]

But it didnt pitch outside leg. Half of the ball was hitting leg stump!

So does the entire ball need to pitch on leg?

It's strange cause when the ball only just hits the stumps it is 'umpires call'

[Jim05]

Thats where the DRS is wrong.
You can not be out if the ball pitches outside leg stump yet the DRS uses the zone from middle of off to middle of leg so therefore anything that is pitched only half a ball width on leg stump is given not out.

[FlyingHigh]

Was a similar one in the South African test in Adelaide.
Think they explained the ball has to be fully pitching in line with leg, and the "half-ball" idea only refers to instances of determining pitching on off stump, and also hitting the stumps.
Still confused why there is a distinction, because they supposedly bought in the half-ball idea to back more of the umpires decisions. It looked out with naked eye, and I wouldn't have thought it was a "howler".

[Grahaml]

Apparently the middle of the ball has to be in line with the middle of the stump to be declared pitching in line.

The reason they have a strict interpretation of pitching in line and then umpires call when the ball is shown just hitting or just missing the stumps is that the question of whether it was hitting is a mere prediction. I don't agree that LBWs should be overturned when even on the pitch map to the naked eye it looks like it's pitched in line. Any part of the ball is in line, that's good enough IMHO. The pitching outside leg rule was designed to stop defensive bowling, balls pitching a few MM outside leg is not defensive.

[whufc]

I think it should go back to what it was designed for, to get rid of the howler.

My example would be in that lbw decision

Because it was given out if any part of the ball is on leg stump than the lbw decision stands.

If the umpire had given it not out and Michael Clarke referred it, then if any ball was outside leg stump the not out decision stands.

The less decisions turned over would make the captains use it for its purpose.

Hope that makes sense

[daysofourlives]

Why can't we have benefit of the doubt to the umpires with DRS afterall it was only brought in to get rid of the howlers.

I think the best way would be if an umpire gives a batsman OUT LBW then some part of the ball must pitch inline of the outside edge of the leg stump and the outside edge of the off stump.
If a batsman is given NOT OUT LBW and is referred by the fielding team then we should use the current piching inline DRS rule of pitching inline with the middle of leg stump to the middle of the off stump.
It can also be extended to include hitting inline

Can anyone pick any potential problems with that system?

Also why can't we give the batsman or captain less time to decide if he is referring it i.e 3 seconds.
To me the howlers are the ones that you know straight away ie if you got an inside edge on a LBW decision or didnt nick a caught behind

[daysofourlives]

I think it should go back to what it was designed for, to get rid of the howler.

My example would be in that lbw decision

Because it was given out if any part of the ball is on leg stump than the lbw decision stands.

If the umpire had given it not out and Michael Clarke referred it, then if any ball was outside leg stump the not out decision stands.

The less decisions turned over would make the captains use it for its purpose.

Hope that makes sense

Lol, exactly what i just said WHUFC, between our 2 posts the message gets across i think

[The Sleeping Giant]

The half ball rule is for margin of error. In other words, the technology isn't perfect.

[Grahaml]

The half ball rule is for margin of error. In other words, the technology isn't perfect.

For balls hitting the stumps, yes. For balls pitching inline, no. The rule for pitching in line is an interpretation of what pitching in line means.

[bulldog2004]

Good change of bowling by Clarkey. Starc get Jayawardne for 72