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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby Pag » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:09 pm

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smac wrote:Great night, great to see so many kids interested in cricket, this format will secure the future of the whole sport which is just excellent.

Highlight of the night was a mate professing a lifelong dream to catch a six at the cricket. As soon as Pollard connected with one of his I called it as his, he put his beer down, cleared the walkway and DROPPED IT! Had a massive red mark on his bicep and a sore finger as well as a shattered dream!
I was up in the Chappell Stands and heard about this incident... :lol:

He was a disgrace.

Thanks for coming down to say g'day, mighty sociable of you.
I didn't know everyone was down there until after the game, the other two tools who left us said they were going to get a drink and never came back.

Although you were in the sun, so even if I knew, my chances of leaving the shade for you were not very good. ;)

Tuesday night though mate, I'll be there.
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby bayman » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:12 pm

mal wrote:Almost 1000 views for a 20/20 game
I wonder how many times Reb and Roddy have viewed .....


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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby shoe boy » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:20 pm

smac wrote:
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smac wrote:Great night, great to see so many kids interested in cricket, this format will secure the future of the whole sport which is just excellent.
Highlight of the night was a mate professing a lifelong dream to catch a six at the cricket. As soon as Pollard connected with one of his I called it as his, he put his beer down, cleared the walkway and DROPPED IT! Had a massive red mark on his bicep and a sore finger as well as a shattered dream!


Smac I have concerns for the game and the bad habits kid will pick up watching 20/20.

Yes entertaining but just not cricket more like moderated baseball.
Give me test/ss any day.

Maybe im living in the past??

You can have a test match in about 15 years time where the players will be capable of scoring 450-500 in a day because of T20. This game develops cricket skills in so many ways - no time for 'warm ups' or 'getting the eye in', you need to be ready from ball one. 120 years of Test cricket couldn't teach this...

I keep hearing baseball and teeball comments about T20. How is it similar to either game? It's just quick cricket!

I'm not bagging Test cricket either, I love Test cricket. I love all cricket.


Tell the bowlers it is cricket!!!
Just like the old mat in baseball.
As for improving test cricket I disagree and I will use the young lads in the Paki side the other day that play shit loads of 20/20 and it shows and I believe was one of the reasons they coulnt chase down 175 NO PATIENCE. and disapline
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby mal » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:23 pm

And the next time PA cant chase down a 20/20 total they will no doubt blame Test Cricket for thier slow batting habits
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby smac » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:37 pm

Why do we all get excited when Tait bowls? Because he is fast as all buggery and the crowd love it. Same goes for any bowler who contributes something to the game - their chances of wickets are increased due to the style of batting in front of them.

We need to stop thinking of it as an alternative to Test cricket, because it's not. It's an additional form of cricket that is getting kids excited about a sport and contributing to fast rising participation rates.
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby shoe boy » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:47 pm

smac wrote:Why do we all get excited when Tait bowls? Because he is fast as all buggery and the crowd love it. Same goes for any bowler who contributes something to the game - their chances of wickets are increased due to the style of batting in front of them.

We need to stop thinking of it as an alternative to Test cricket, because it's not. It's an additional form of cricket that is getting kids excited about a sport and contributing to fast rising participation rates.


I dont and am sure if 20/20 didnt exsist Tait couldnt play the game!
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:52 pm

shoe boy wrote:
smac wrote:Why do we all get excited when Tait bowls? Because he is fast as all buggery and the crowd love it. Same goes for any bowler who contributes something to the game - their chances of wickets are increased due to the style of batting in front of them.

We need to stop thinking of it as an alternative to Test cricket, because it's not. It's an additional form of cricket that is getting kids excited about a sport and contributing to fast rising participation rates.


I dont and am sure if 20/20 didnt exsist Tait couldnt play the game!


8/43 was it?
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby shoe boy » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:07 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
shoe boy wrote:
smac wrote:Why do we all get excited when Tait bowls? Because he is fast as all buggery and the crowd love it. Same goes for any bowler who contributes something to the game - their chances of wickets are increased due to the style of batting in front of them.

We need to stop thinking of it as an alternative to Test cricket, because it's not. It's an additional form of cricket that is getting kids excited about a sport and contributing to fast rising participation rates.


I dont and am sure if 20/20 didnt exsist Tait couldnt play the game!


8/43 was it?


Shit Karetz or whatever his name(Tazzie lad) is has the best figures of all time I believe DO YOU RATE HIM!!!
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby smac » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:08 pm

Krezja I assume you are talking about? What form of the game does he have best figures in? (curiousity only, not looking for an arguement on that point).

And Tait has taken Test wickets, Shield wickets, ODI wickets, ODD wickets (where he holds the record with the 8/43 LM mentioned earlier) as well as T20 wickets.

He is capable of playing cricket of any form at any level and I am sure he will represent Australia again at least at T20 and ODI level. I am unsure why not representing Australia in all three forms of the game at once is a requirement to be a damn good cricketer. "Only" playing ODI and T20 or even T20 alone still makes you very good, I would think.
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby catchisthecry » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:12 pm

The first thing most people said when they saw Taity was, "Geez he wont last long with that action!"
And now we are all surprised his body wont hold up to the rigours of 4-5 day cricket :roll:
I love watching him bowl express for a couple of overs at a time, you don't often get to see class batsmen (eg. D. Hussey and D. Thornley) jumping away scared from fast bowling
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby shoe boy » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:16 pm

smac wrote:Krezja I assume you are talking about? What form of the game does he have best figures in? (curiousity only, not looking for an arguement on that point).

And Tait has taken Test wickets, Shield wickets, ODI wickets, ODD wickets (where he holds the record with the 8/43 LM mentioned earlier) as well as T20 wickets.

He is capable of playing cricket of any form at any level and I am sure he will represent Australia again at least at T20 and ODI level. I am unsure why not representing Australia in all three forms of the game at once is a requirement to be a damn good cricketer. "Only" playing ODI and T20 or even T20 alone still makes you very good, I would think.


I believe it was last time we played India in India in a test?

Tait is just not my cup of tea!! Not made of the right stuff and certainly one that I wouldnt take to the trenches as he would raise the white flag!
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:22 pm

shoe boy wrote:
smac wrote:Krezja I assume you are talking about? What form of the game does he have best figures in? (curiousity only, not looking for an arguement on that point).

And Tait has taken Test wickets, Shield wickets, ODI wickets, ODD wickets (where he holds the record with the 8/43 LM mentioned earlier) as well as T20 wickets.

He is capable of playing cricket of any form at any level and I am sure he will represent Australia again at least at T20 and ODI level. I am unsure why not representing Australia in all three forms of the game at once is a requirement to be a damn good cricketer. "Only" playing ODI and T20 or even T20 alone still makes you very good, I would think.


I believe it was last time we played India in India in a test?

Tait is just not my cup of tea!! Not made of the right stuff and certainly one that I wouldnt take to the trenches as he would raise the white flag!


8 for 2 million or something like that, no I don't rate him too highly, bowl enough overs and you'll take wickets.
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby shoe boy » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:26 pm

Good debating LQ but must go now and have a good w/end.
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:27 pm

shoe boy wrote:Good debating LQ but must go now and have a good w/end.


Enjoy.
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby daysofourlives » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:44 pm

smac wrote:
shoe boy wrote:
smac wrote:Great night, great to see so many kids interested in cricket, this format will secure the future of the whole sport which is just excellent.
Highlight of the night was a mate professing a lifelong dream to catch a six at the cricket. As soon as Pollard connected with one of his I called it as his, he put his beer down, cleared the walkway and DROPPED IT! Had a massive red mark on his bicep and a sore finger as well as a shattered dream!


Smac I have concerns for the game and the bad habits kid will pick up watching 20/20.

Yes entertaining but just not cricket more like moderated baseball.
Give me test/ss any day.

Maybe im living in the past??

You can have a test match in about 15 years time where the players will be capable of scoring 450-500 in a day because of T20. This game develops cricket skills in so many ways - no time for 'warm ups' or 'getting the eye in', you need to be ready from ball one. 120 years of Test cricket couldn't teach this...

I keep hearing baseball and teeball comments about T20. How is it similar to either game? It's just quick cricket!

I'm not bagging Test cricket either, I love Test cricket. I love all cricket.


The only worry i have about T20 is the guys playing now are successful at it because they were brought up with traditional techniques and have that base to work with. I think that is what we will lose and without a technique test mmatches will last 2 days. Can just see the new generation of T20 cricketers batting on the 2nd test wicket in sydney, couls possibly have a test match over in a day.
Does anyone else share these sentiments or am i worrying about nothing?
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:00 pm

daysofourlives wrote:The only worry i have about T20 is the guys playing now are successful at it because they were brought up with traditional techniques and have that base to work with. I think that is what we will lose and without a technique test mmatches will last 2 days. Can just see the new generation of T20 cricketers batting on the 2nd test wicket in sydney, couls possibly have a test match over in a day.
Does anyone else share these sentiments or am i worrying about nothing?


You raise very good points about 20/20. An astute observation about the truncated forms of the game attaining popularity because the players had honed their skills in a more ordered and disciplined environment.

I share your concerns sa we are seeing young batsmen entering the Test arena with good stroke making skills but lousy temperament and shot selection. These players have been exposed to 20/20 way too early in their cricket education.
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby Gozu » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:02 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:I share your concerns sa we are seeing young batsmen entering the Test arena with good stroke making skills but lousy temperament and shot selection.


How much T20 cricket has Michael Clarke played? ;)
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby NO-MERCY » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:03 pm

shoe boy wrote:Great win by the lads and how good was Pollard with bat/ball and his efforts in the field are inspiring to team mates.

Now who is responsable for the MOM award!!!! fair dinkum that was a joke!


shoe boy wrote:I dont and am sure if 20/20 didnt exsist Tait couldnt play the game!


Shoe boy i agree with you totally on both points.
Theres no argument to be honest, Pollard was eeezzzzzzzily Man Of The Match.
It was good to see Tait "finally" bowl well & on line, he was rewarded with 3 wickets.
Its a far cry from his resent results of trying so hard to be the fastest bowler on the planet & costing his team "plenty" of runs in the proceed, Pollard however is an absolute genious & is a proven consistant contributor week in week out.
Good luck to SA in the final.
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby Hondo » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:19 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:The only worry i have about T20 is the guys playing now are successful at it because they were brought up with traditional techniques and have that base to work with. I think that is what we will lose and without a technique test mmatches will last 2 days. Can just see the new generation of T20 cricketers batting on the 2nd test wicket in sydney, couls possibly have a test match over in a day.
Does anyone else share these sentiments or am i worrying about nothing?


You raise very good points about 20/20. An astute observation about the truncated forms of the game attaining popularity because the players had honed their skills in a more ordered and disciplined environment.

I share your concerns sa we are seeing young batsmen entering the Test arena with good stroke making skills but lousy temperament and shot selection. These players have been exposed to 20/20 way too early in their cricket education.


Once again these 2 arguments draw too much of a distinction between 50-50 and 20-20. 50-50 has been going in full force for over 30 years which is before guys like Clarke, Hussey, Katich were even born.

All the exact same arguments against 50-50 put forward 30 years ago are being trotted out for 20-20 as though it's the first time anyone has thought about the impact of shortened versions of the game on test cricket.
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Re: 20/20 SA vs Vic Adelaide Oval 7th Jan

Postby jackpot jim » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:09 pm

NO-MERCY wrote:
shoe boy wrote:Great win by the lads and how good was Pollard with bat/ball and his efforts in the field are inspiring to team mates.

Now who is responsable for the MOM award!!!! fair dinkum that was a joke!


shoe boy wrote:I dont and am sure if 20/20 didnt exsist Tait couldnt play the game!


Shoe boy i agree with you totally on both points.
Theres no argument to be honest, Pollard was eeezzzzzzzily Man Of The Match.
It was good to see Tait "finally" bowl well & on line, he was rewarded with 3 wickets.
Its a far cry from his resent results of trying so hard to be the fastest bowler on the planet & costing his team "plenty" of runs in the proceed, Pollard however is an absolute genious & is a proven consistant contributor week in week out.
Good luck to SA in the final.


At the end of he day. MOM awards are meaningless, it's the team result that counts.
FWIW, i thought it was a 50/50 choice on Pollard & Taity for MOM.
Pollards 50 was crucial in enabling SA to post an uncomfortable score for the Vics to chase. super stuff that. :D :D
Taiuts 3 wickets decimated the Vics run chase and the game was as good as over after only 3 overs. :D :D

I thought Pollards explosive innings with the bat was equalled and just as influential in the result of the match as Taits spell with the ball.

The fact that Pollard got 2 wickets (the last 2) shouldn't be a factor in adjudicating the MOM as the game was done and dusted by then.
It was probably a coin flip that decided it and it came down Tait. No big deal, Bring on the Final :D
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