Australia's Next Keeper

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Australia's Next Keeper

Postby tedbullpit » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:39 pm

If Haddin were to go down with an injury who would you look at bringing into the test team? IMO there isn't a standout choice.

IMO Ronchi should be in the one day side ahead of Haddin. If the selectors as they say have an eye to the 2011 world cup then Ronchi should be in there now. He is a better keeper IMO and when he gets going can be a very damaging batsman in the shorter game. I know there a lot of people on this forum who aren't fans of Ronchi. When the next World Cup comes around Haddin will be 34.

What are people's thoughts?
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:10 pm

Haddin

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Ronchi

Haddin is one of the best strikers of a cricket ball going around atm. Ronchi is a bit of a one hit wonder IMO. Haddin's keeping is far superior to Ronchi but i would say that Paine is the best glovemen out of the lot and his batting is coming along well. Haddin deserves the spot until the next world cup and he will do plenty for the side between now and then.

If Haddin were to be injured i would prefer to see Paine given a go as he is a far superior keeper than Ronchi and i don't think that Ronchi's batting is that good either.
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:18 pm

Haddin till the world cup, Paine after that. If Haddin gets hurt chuck in Paine earlier. Ronchi is rank.


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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby hearts on fire » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:22 pm

Ronchi at International Level= Sh1t
Ronchi at State Level= Very Average
Ronchi at Club Level= Good
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:38 pm

REB and hof are spot on here. Ronchi is a dreadful keeper and with the bat he's just a slogger who is only consitent at failing to make runs. There is a standout choice for when the time comes and it is Tim Paine as REB has said.
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:40 pm

rod_rooster wrote:REB and hof are spot on here. Ronchi is a dreadful keeper and with the bat he's just a slogger who is only consitent at failing to make runs. There is a standout choice for when the time comes and it is Tim Paine as REB has said.



The best gloveman in the Country is Graham Manou by far. If his batting was a tad better/consistent he would be next over all mentioned above
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby am Bays » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:03 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:REB and hof are spot on here. Ronchi is a dreadful keeper and with the bat he's just a slogger who is only consitent at failing to make runs. There is a standout choice for when the time comes and it is Tim Paine as REB has said.



The best gloveman in the Country is Graham Manou by far. If his batting was a tad better/consistent he would be next over all mentioned above


Never seen Chris Hartley keep??? IMO the best glovemen going around. IMO though the next 'keeper will be Tim Paine. Not as good witht eh gloves as Hartley but a better bat which is what they are looking for.
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:06 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:REB and hof are spot on here. Ronchi is a dreadful keeper and with the bat he's just a slogger who is only consitent at failing to make runs. There is a standout choice for when the time comes and it is Tim Paine as REB has said.



The best gloveman in the Country is Graham Manou by far. If his batting was a tad better/consistent he would be next over all mentioned above


Never seen Chris Hartley keep??? IMO the best glovemen going around. IMO though the next 'keeper will be Tim Paine. Not as good witht eh gloves as Hartley but a better bat which is what they are looking for.


I was thinking the same Tassie. I'd rate Hartley as the best keeper.
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby dragonsphere » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:35 pm

i think Matthew Wade from Victoria is gonna be the one after Haddin. His will shine in the next couple of years.
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby Drop Bear » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:37 pm

Chris Hartley.
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:11 pm

dragonsphere wrote:i think Matthew Wade from Victoria is gonna be the one after Haddin. His will shine in the next couple of years.


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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:14 pm

Drop Bear wrote:Chris Hartley.


Can't bat. Won't keep.

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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:16 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Drop Bear wrote:Chris Hartley.


Can't bat. Won't keep.

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Agreed he can't bat unless he is playing the redbacks.
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby Drop Bear » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:13 pm

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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby panther » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:08 pm

These are the best keepers for the various forms of the game
My ratings out of 10
5 is the passmark


Test team
8 Haddin
5 Paine
3 Wade

Haddin is the best, but Tim Paine looks a test keeper and batsman for the future, Wade bats well.

50 over team
8 Haddin
5 Ronchi
4 Crostwaite

Haddin is the best , Ronchi and Crostwaite are great sloggers and almost a good on thier day

20/20
9 Crostwaite
8 Ronchi
6 Haddin

20/20
Crostwaite is amazing he can hit boundaries from the first ball onwards[needed in 20/20]
Ronchi would be a better opener , but at 7 I would play Crostwaite in all 20/20 games


Just for the record Gilchrist was a 10 in all forms [the Bradman of keepers]
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:14 pm

You are clearly rating them more on their batting than their keeping panther. Unfortunately this is the way thinking is going but really the number one job of a wicket keeper is to keep wickets. Ronchi and Crosthwaite are very average behind the stumps. Haddin is not exactly in good form with the gloves either to be honest but unlike those two he can actually bat.
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby CoverKing » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:11 pm

Crosswaithe is a good ODD and 20/20 batsman, but haddin is by far the superior batsman and keeper to all three. tim paine the next aus test keeper IMO. Ronchi is not good, he can not bat that good at all, hence why he did not even open in the last 20/20 game for the warriors (they are just realising this aswell)
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby GWW » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:18 pm

Manou 8)
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby wycbloods » Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:38 pm

Brendan McCullum :D :D
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Re: Australia's Next Keeper

Postby Dogwatcher » Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:49 pm

Just for information's sake, here is a list of Australia's wicketkeepers:
Add any information about any of these guys, or references to information about some of the early keepers, as I don't know much about them.

Wicketkeepers

John Blackham
AH Jarvis
FJ Burton 1886-87
JJ Kelly 1896
Hanson Carter
William Carkeek
Bert Oldfield
HSB Love 1932-33
BA Barnett 1938
Don Tallon
Ron Saggers
Gil Langley
Len Maddocks
Wally Grout
Barry Jarman
Brian Taber
Rod Marsh
Steve Rixon
John Maclean
Kevin Wright
Roger Woolley
Wayne Phillips
Tim Zoehrer
Greg Dyer
Ian Healy
Phil Emery
Adam Gilchrist
Brad Haddin
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