Australia vs. Sri Lanka-World T20

[godoubleblues]

maybe we should treat the 20/20 comps like we treat the rugby 7s
pick a team that is suited to the format

[Pup]

maybe we should treat the 20/20 comps like we treat the rugby 7s
pick a team that is suited to the format

Of course we should. You pick the best side for that form of the game. The problem is i think they think they did pick the best side.

[mal]

OK
my selection criteria for batsman in 20/20 cricket
no who should be in or out just whats required

OPENERS
batters who can hit over the infield in the first 6 overs

MIDDLE ORDER BATSMEN
batters who can hit sixes at will, and play shots from ball 1

BATTERS FROM 6-8
batters who will face overs 15 -20
need to bash from ball one

TYPES OF BATSMAN NEEDED
batters who can bash spinners over the fence

SUMMARY
you dont pick the best batsman you pick the best bashers
you pick batsman that score at a ratio of 20 runs minimum per first 15 balls faced
too may aussie batters push too many deleveries at the start of innings

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YOU CLASSIFY A GOOD BATSMAN IN 20/20 BY STRIKE RATES NOT BATTING AVERAGES
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PUP
Any batsman batting 3 and making 0[1] does affect the winning chance of the team

Also the gap between International 20/20 aust batsmen and domestic 20/2o batsmen is very mini MAL

HUGHES
HODGE
CARSELDINE
BIRT
REARDON
BAILEY
CHRISTIAN
RONCHI

That batting line up would be as good in 20/20 crash bash wham slam cricket as we have now

HOWEVER
The gap between International Test batsman and Shield batters is far greater

[ORDoubleBlues]

And why isn't Ryan Harris figuring for this format?

[Pup]

PUP
Any batsman batting 3 and making 0[1] does affect the winning chance of the team

Also the gap between International 20/20 aust batsmen and domestic 20/2o batsmen is very mini MAL

HUGHES
HODGE
CARSELDINE
BIRT
REARDON
BAILEY
CHRISTIAN
RONCHI

Yes of course if your number 3 fails then it affects you but in this format when your number 3 has made a golden duck then it is far more beneficial than making 0 from 5/6 or 10 from 15 as you say. This is an international cricket side surely we can rely on our 4/5 and 6 to score some runs or at least we should be able too.

I realise strike rates are important but so are the players abilities to go on and make a score. For example i would much rather have these 4 players

Brad Hodge 2288 @ 41 (131 SR)
Cameron White 1187 @ 33.91 (150 SR)
Lee Carseldine 420 @ 42 (130 SR)
Dan Harris 382 @ 34.72 (150 SR)

than these 4

Travis Birt 422 @ 21.10 (138 SR)
Dan Christian 244 @ 16.26 (142 SR)
Reardon 255 @ 18.21 (126 SR)
Crosthwaite 303 @ 25 (149 SR)

While Hodge and Carseldine may have a lower strike rate you know they nearly always make a good score and guide their side to a total once they get a start. I would happily sacrifice that extra 18 on Crosthwaites SR if i knew he could compile scores like Hodge.

Personally i think Reardon is over rated, can a hit a great ball but just does not seem to do it consistently. Does not bat that quickly and has a pretty dismal record apart from 1 or 2 classy innings. How Hodge and White were left out amazes me. Pick the squad that will win the tournament.!

[gadj1976]

Didnt see last nights game but it was painfully obvious v WI that the Aussie side was NOT selected specifically for T20...

Lee and Johnson definitely NOT T20 bowlers
Ponting and Clarke definitely NOT T20 batsmen

This is not a sledge, these guys are just suited to longer forms of the game.

*ducks*

well said Mattee, I couldn't agree more.

[Gozu]

CLARKE
13[22]
11[15]

I think 13 (22) is what Clarke did for the whole tournament. He scored:

2 (7) vs. West Indies &
11 (15) vs. Sri Lanka

[mal]

CLARKE
13[22]
11[15]

I think 13 (22) is what Clarke did for the whole tournament. He scored:

2 (7) vs. West Indies &
11 (15) vs. Sri Lanka

GOZU Yes u r right i got his innings jumbled up
13[22] total, I guess if I batted 10 for Scotland/Ireland/Nanneslands I would be content with scores like that

CLARKE RATINGS

TESTS... 8.8.......Good test player, quite possibly our best batsman now that the skipper is aging
50/50.....7-3.......8-3 rating if opens 6-3 in middle order , does a job, fields very well, handy bowler, bats OK
20/20.....2.5........needs to eat more Weet Bix

[the joker]

CLARKE
13[22]
11[15]

I think 13 (22) is what Clarke did for the whole tournament. He scored:

2 (7) vs. West Indies &
11 (15) vs. Sri Lanka

GOZU Yes u r right i got his innings jumbled up
13[22] total, I guess if I batted 10 for Scotland/Ireland/Nanneslands I would be content with scores like that

CLARKE RATINGS

TESTS... 8.8.......Good test player, quite possibly our best batsman now that the skipper is aging
50/50.....7-3.......8-3 rating if opens 6-3 in middle order , does a job, fields very well, handy bowler, bats OK
20/20.....2.5........needs to eat more Weet Bix

bats ok, he has been outstanding.

[The Jack]

Carseldine is an out and out gun in this format of the game! Every time I've seen him, whether it be IPL or KFC, he has absolutely smashed em! While not normally inclined to promote a banana-bender's case (God took the best state in the world and filled it with Queenslanders, just for balance!), it's a travesty that he is not in the side. It appears to me that the senior players of the Test and ODI squads have too much say in selection of 20/20 squads. They know it is the most lucrative form of the game, and want to keep their snouts in the trough. Playing international 20/20s gives them something else for their resume when it comes to getting picked up by an IPL team. The selectors need to harden the duck up and make some tough calls. Really starting to p!ss me off they are!

[westcoastpanther]

Carseldine is an out and out gun in this format of the game! Every time I've seen him, whether it be IPL or KFC, he has absolutely smashed em! While not normally inclined to promote a banana-bender's case (God took the best state in the world and filled it with Queenslanders, just for balance!), it's a travesty that he is not in the side. It appears to me that the senior players of the Test and ODI squads have too much say in selection of 20/20 squads. They know it is the most lucrative form of the game, and want to keep their snouts in the trough. Playing international 20/20s gives them something else for their resume when it comes to getting picked up by an IPL team. The selectors need to harden the duck up and make some tough calls. Really starting to p!ss me off they are!

That is a very interesting comment and while we have no facts, it makes a lot of sense. Have they put themselves ahead of their country??