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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby locky801 » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:13 pm

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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby Thiele » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:21 pm

Well done to the Aussies :D
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby Brucetiki » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:09 pm

Well done to Australia.

As for the Indians - they are a disgrace. To blame the umpires for the loss is pure childish. They were right on one thing though - only one team was playing within the spirit of the game - AUSTRALIA. India were playing like a bunch of spoilt brats - certainly not in the spirit in the game. How many times when they were given out did they just stand there and sulk like 3 year olds. India should be ashamed of themselves for their conduct in this test.
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby Mic » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:13 pm

:( I was busy all day (after not being so for the past 4 days) and only managed to see the last 2 balls of the match. Hopefully some highlights will be put on You-Tube.

Anyway, what a game! Was exactly the type of drama that one-dayers (and especially that 20/20 stuff that I can't stand) doesn't deliver. Very similar to the Adelaide Ashes test with the Aussies attacking a game that looked certain for a draw, winning a very memorable victory. A disappointing crowd at the SCG (especially for a Sunday) but those who saw it won't forget it.
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby mal » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:35 pm

whufc wrote:I didn't get to watch the game today as i was at work with no radio reception so have only got scores of the net.
Would the time wasting tactic have worked any way? Isn't there a certain amount of overs that had to be bowled in the day regardless of time or had we already bowled the minimun requirement.


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7 balls left when Sharma was out
9 minutes left to play [or should have been 11 minutes but for the Sharma stall]

So 2 overs left but could have been 3 but for the antics
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby Punk Rooster » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:34 am

Brucetiki wrote:Well done to Australia.

As for the Indians - they are a disgrace. To blame the umpires for the loss is pure childish. They were right on one thing though - only one team was playing within the spirit of the game - AUSTRALIA. India were playing like a bunch of spoilt brats - certainly not in the spirit in the game. How many times when they were given out did they just stand there and sulk like 3 year olds. India should be ashamed of themselves for their conduct in this test.

100% correct.

The Indians are a bunch of whinging girls.
So are their press.
The Indians carry on about Pup delaying his departure- what about Sharma standing on the pitch doing an impersantion of a guppy when caught at slip?
They are also racists.

The Indian sulking aside (poor losers), what a fantastic f**king test match.
The Aussies are champions of the game, & deserve to extend their winning run.
Pup needs to get the ball thrown to him a little more often methinks, & with Roy- do we need Hogg in the side as a spinner?
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby Blue Boy » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:32 pm

I have never seen bigger sooking like that after a cricket match !!!

Hows the stunt with the last indian lad to walk out with a right hand and left hand glove ???
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby MAY-Z » Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:33 pm

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/magazin ... 29392.html

this is a very well written article containing many valid points and definitely a better balanced view than those that have been posted here by varioius posters in regard sto indian whinging and sooking.

it isnt just the indians that have complained about this it is almopst every touring team for the last decade and more often than not they are well within their rights to complain.

people on here complain about the asian dominance of offfield matters and why that may have an element of truth to it there is no doubt australia dominate the officials on field.
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby spell_check » Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:12 pm

The best way to deal with that is to get umpires that won't buckle under pressure - like Dar - and get Taufel in to umpire. He knows he will be heavily scrutinised, but at least he is the best in the world.
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby Hondo » Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:43 pm

A caller on 5AA raised a good point about Gilly. Playing at being Mr Honest when walking while batting and then turning around and appealing for anything when he is keeping. Possibly a bit hypocritical.

Maybe a but harsh but an interesting different perspective on it. The callers were divided 50/50 on this dispute which was also very interesting you'd think we'd all be backing the Aussies in.
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby am Bays » Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:47 pm

MAY-Z wrote:http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/329392.html

this is a very well written article containing many valid points and definitely a better balanced view than those that have been posted here by varioius posters in regard sto indian whinging and sooking.

it isnt just the indians that have complained about this it is almopst every touring team for the last decade and more often than not they are well within their rights to complain.

people on here complain about the asian dominance of offfield matters and why that may have an element of truth to it there is no doubt australia dominate the officials on field.


May-z how? How do we influence umpires??? Especially as they are now neutral.

And while you're at it tell me where in the laws of cricket does it say you can't appeal?

Remember of the 22 players out there in Sydney test only one player has been suspended in the past for excessive appealing and he wasn't in a baggy green.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby smithy » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:51 pm

i have many opinions on many points regarding this but what I will say is that with Australia having such a good attack they are going to create more 1/2 chances and close decisions than all the other teams, therefore more appeals will happen and more pressure on the umpires.
I think it's time for a bit more technology to be involved in the game of cricket.
A test match goes for 5 days with daily additions of time for various reasons, so what is 1-2 minutes going to hurt if it makes sure the decision is right or wrong.
THey could allow the lunch break to be reduced to 30 minutes to allow for this technology as well.
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby MAY-Z » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:02 am

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MAY-Z wrote:http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/329392.html

this is a very well written article containing many valid points and definitely a better balanced view than those that have been posted here by varioius posters in regard sto indian whinging and sooking.

it isnt just the indians that have complained about this it is almopst every touring team for the last decade and more often than not they are well within their rights to complain.

people on here complain about the asian dominance of offfield matters and why that may have an element of truth to it there is no doubt australia dominate the officials on field.


May-z how? How do we influence umpires??? Especially as they are now neutral.

And while you're at it tell me where in the laws of cricket does it say you can't appeal?

Remember of the 22 players out there in Sydney test only one player has been suspended in the past for excessive appealing and he wasn't in a baggy green.


Preamble to the Laws - "The Spirit of Cricket"

Cricket is a game that owes much of its unique appeal to the fact that
it should be played not only within its Laws but also within the Spirit
of the Game. Any action which is seen to abuse this spirit causes injury
to the game itself. The major responsbility for ensuring the spirit of
fair play rests with the captains.

1. There are two Laws which place responsibility for the team's conduct
firmly on the captain.

Responsibility of captains:
The captains are responsible at all times for ensuring that play is
conducted within the Spirit of the Game as well as within the Laws.

Player's conduct:
In the event of a player failing to comply with instructions by an
umpire, or criticising by word or action the decision of an umpire, or
showing dissent, or generally behaving in a manner which might bring the
game into disrepute, the umpire concerned shall in the first place
report the matter to the other umpire and to the player's captain, and
instruct the latter to take action.

2. Fair and unfair play
According to the Laws the umpires are the sole judges of fair and unfair
play.
The umpires may intervene at any time and it is the responsibility of
the captain to take action where required.

3. The umpires are authorised to intervene in cases of:
Time wasting
Damaging the pitch
Dangerous or unfair bowling
Tampering with the ball
Any other action that they consider to be unfair

4. The Spirit of the Game involves RESPECT for:
Your opponents
Your own captain
The roles of the umpires
The game's traditional values

5. It is against the Spirit of the Game:
To dispute an umpire's decision by word, action or gesture
To direct abusive language towards an opponent or umpire
To indulge in cheating or any sharp practice, for instance:
(a) to appeal knowing that the batsman is not out
(b) to advance towards an umpire in an aggressive manner when appealing
(c) to seek to distract an opponent either verbally or by harassment
with persistent clapping or unnecessary noise under the guise of
enthusiasm and motivation of one's own side

6. Violence
There is no place for any act of violence on the field of play.

7. Players
Captains and umpires together set the tone for the conduct of a cricket
match. Every player is expected to make an important contribution
towards this.

and as mentioned earlier gilchrists walking puts enormous pressure on the umpires as he creates the impression that he is 100% honest so when he appeals it is almost like the umpire is calling gilchrist a cheat if he doesnt give it out.

the mannerisms of the australians clearly intimidate the umpires.

the excessive appealing against sehwag was a rubbish call by the match referee and was rightfully disagreed with by the indians based on the fact everyone appeals excessively
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Re: 2nd Test - Australia v India

Postby rod_rooster » Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:00 pm

See that's a big assumption. You are assuming that the players who are appealing know the batsman is not out. If they are not sure then why not appeal and ask the umpire after all that is the reason for appeals is it not? To suggest players appealing know the batsman isn't out is a bit rich. It's not the players fault if the umpires make mistakes.
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