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Re: KANDYMAN record

Postby Andy #24 » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:34 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Come on Andy, we all know why Murali was cleared and Booney stated as much. The reason why 'we are having this dicussion' is because the guy has gotten away with something that Ian Meckiff and Gordon Rorke did not. Tassie, you're wasting your time bring up facts with this bloke


No, we all know you're whinging because you are too caught up in a stat. He's legal, there's a fact Rikki. Get over it. What's the point of declaring someone legal if there is no finality and bozos keep questioning it. Meckiff got screwed by a variety of circumstances, shouldn't let the same thing happen to Murali.
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Re: KANDYMAN record

Postby Andy #24 » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:44 am

I enjoy how you interpret the word fact Rikki. Saying that the ICC was pressured into calling his action legal is not a fact but speculation. If someone came out and admitted it we might call it a fact then, but not before.

I wouldn't expect you to base your conclusions on real facts though Rikki.
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Re: KANDYMAN record

Postby Dirko » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:52 am

Murali, back in 1991 was found guilty of chucking the ball. He was told to remedy his action, he didn't. The ICC being the toothless wonder that they are then agreed to test him after he'd been called for chucking, and they did, in a lab, on practise pitches BUT not in a test environment on the fifth day etc etc.
How you can clear someone action by not testing them in the actual environment stinks to high heaven. The ICC were aware that if they banned him, the "Asian" contingent of the cricket world would kick up a huge fuss, so instead they changed the rules for ONE bowler.
Now well done to him but at the end of the day, the rules were changed to suit Murali to avoid conflict. There will never be a chucker again, as Booney said they send them back home quick smart. Also as quoted by Crash Craddock, if you can bowl a yo-yo, let him know, as Murali's action is very similar to the throwing action you do for a yo-yo.
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Re: KANDYMAN record

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:29 am

SJABC wrote:Murali, back in 1991 was found guilty of chucking the ball. He was told to remedy his action, he didn't. The ICC being the toothless wonder that they are then agreed to test him after he'd been called for chucking, and they did, in a lab, on practise pitches BUT not in a test environment on the fifth day etc etc.
How you can clear someone action by not testing them in the actual environment stinks to high heaven. The ICC were aware that if they banned him, the "Asian" contingent of the cricket world would kick up a huge fuss, so instead they changed the rules for ONE bowler.
Now well done to him but at the end of the day, the rules were changed to suit Murali to avoid conflict. There will never be a chucker again, as Booney said they send them back home quick smart. Also as quoted by Crash Craddock, if you can bowl a yo-yo, let him know, as Murali's action is very similar to the throwing action you do for a yo-yo.
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Re: KANDYMAN record

Postby MAY-Z » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:28 pm

SJABC wrote:Murali, back in 1991 was found guilty of chucking the ball. He was told to remedy his action, he didn't. The ICC being the toothless wonder that they are then agreed to test him after he'd been called for chucking, and they did, in a lab, on practise pitches BUT not in a test environment on the fifth day etc etc.
How you can clear someone action by not testing them in the actual environment stinks to high heaven. The ICC were aware that if they banned him, the "Asian" contingent of the cricket world would kick up a huge fuss, so instead they changed the rules for ONE bowler.
Now well done to him but at the end of the day, the rules were changed to suit Murali to avoid conflict. There will never be a chucker again, as Booney said they send them back home quick smart. Also as quoted by Crash Craddock, if you can bowl a yo-yo, let him know, as Murali's action is very similar to the throwing action you do for a yo-yo.
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yes the rules were changed but that only helped to come up with a definitive ruling dur to teh fact everyone bends their arm to some degree.

since the official degrees has been in place i can think of 3 bowlers whose action has been outlawed because of the testing. johan botha, shabbir ahmed and shoiab malik. 2 of these are from pakistan which happens to be on the subcontinent.

the reason emerson was given the sack was becasue he was a vwery poor umpire who had possibly the worst game ever in that particular match with his decisons costing england the win- in particular the decision to give jayawardene not out when he was run out but a good metre and a half and not call for the 3rd umpire.

considering all the crap he recieves from australian fans he still conducts himself in a nice manner and i found chatting to him an enjoyable experience-as i do watching him bowl
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Re: KANDYMAN record

Postby Hondo » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:44 pm

I think in some sort of testing they did Brett Lee and Akhtar were only a handfull of degrees less bent arm than Murali

The rule was brought in to stop pace bowlers baseball pitching instead of bowling (to stop batsmen being decapitated). How can it be as obvious as some people think when for every 'expert' (ex umpire or player) who says Murali chucks there is one who says he doesn't. I am watching him bowl as I type this and I can't see how anyone can be so definite in their opinion on it.

The conspiracy theories about the power of the sub-continent over the ICC are all fun but the're just theories. If something comes out definitively about it then I will happily retract.

In Murali's own words, Warnie is the better bowler just so happens he isn't the leading wicket taker.
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