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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:18 am

not only did the windies collapse the last 15 overs of india batting and the first 25 overs of their fielding left a lot to be desired, and commentators were raising interesting questions
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby JK » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:47 am

Jim05 wrote:
Pup wrote:If we lose are we are out?

Yeah.
Also believe a tie or a wash out will eliminate us.


IMHO, a situation like that is just absurd .. In a Blue Ribbon event there should be very few excuses for not uncovering the best team in the world, and a situation like that means the best team could potentially be removed from the competition.

Obviously Im not just referring to only the Aussies being in that situation either.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:05 am

i agree in a tourney that goes so long, surely if the games a washout, they can come back the next day - weather permitting
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:55 am

That's the importance of setting yourself up well in the preliminary matches.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:45 pm

Jim05 wrote:One quarter final scheduled for colombo and no surprises that Sri Lanka drew a home final.
Reckon we will beat India


How Jim? Not having a go, just asking a genuine question.

Our openers are the only ones standing up with the bat. After that, we're brittle.

Our bowlers.....well one of them tends to do ok but we can't get two or three to stand up regularly. Our spinners aren't taking wickets and our fielding is below par.

If we beat em, there should be an investigation - especially being on their home soil.

Despite only losing one game, our form is pretty ordinary.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:49 pm

our form is terrible, shocking, there is no denying that

but Ponting has done SFA for a long time and v india will be his chance to show us how good he is

he is not alone, especially with our bowlers they need to be more consistent and work together, not just leave it upto one of them to get all the wickets.

for some reason i think we can beat india and i think india last night were playing in a manner in which they didnt want to play us on thursday
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:51 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:our form is terrible, shocking, there is no denying that

but Ponting has done SFA for a long time and v india will be his chance to show us how good he is

he is not alone, especially with our bowlers they need to be more consistent and work together, not just leave it upto one of them to get all the wickets.

for some reason i think we can beat india and i think india last night were playing in a manner in which they didnt want to play us on thursday


by taking 8/32 and scoring nearly 270? They'd love nothing more than knocking us out of a world cup on their home soil.

....and the chances of this happening once let alone THREE times to win the world cup - given they've been in shizen form for the last goodness knows how many months? Not very likely.

I mean, we beat the Poms convincingly. That formline isn't reading very well at the moment.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:56 pm

well India were well and truly on there way to a bigger score then the one they got

8/32 is questionable, because the windies should never have lost last nights game, they were cruising, but some of those dismissals were interesting
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Jim05 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:20 pm

My reasons why we will beat India.
- out of all the teams left their bowling is the worst by a fair bit, their quicks are rubbish and they will need an absolute turner of a pitch because they rely on barj and he is out of form at moment.
- Their fielding is the worst in the comp, even the netherlands and canada are better fielders than these lazy primma donnas. We can gain 30-40 runs from their sloppy fielding.
- Batting, their strength but can be their achilles heel, they tend to panic and lose lots of wickets quickly. Sehwag and the little master are the keys, apart from these two and dhoni they dont take many quick singles and if the big shots dont come off they dont have a plan B.
- Lastly the pressure from the screaming crowd and 2 billion Indians will be too much to bare.
I actually think we will win easily.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby stampy » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:54 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Jim05 wrote:One quarter final scheduled for colombo and no surprises that Sri Lanka drew a home final.
Reckon we will beat India


Well they are hosting it mate.


yeah i had a giggle at that :D
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Jim05 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:35 pm

stampy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Jim05 wrote:One quarter final scheduled for colombo and no surprises that Sri Lanka drew a home final.
Reckon we will beat India


Well they are hosting it mate.


yeah i had a giggle at that :D

My point is that when i looked at the draw before the cup started i remember than the group a winner v group b 4th place was the scheduled game for colombo yet now it has changed so the lankans get it.
Wonder what the outcome was if sri lanka drew india in next round?
And for those who remember australia hosted the wc but played NZ in NZ, double standards by ICC perhaps
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby spell_check » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:01 pm

On the subject of that, I wondered why Sri Lanka played New Zealand in India?
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:18 pm

Jim05 wrote:My reasons why we will beat India.
- out of all the teams left their bowling is the worst by a fair bit, their quicks are rubbish and they will need an absolute turner of a pitch because they rely on barj and he is out of form at moment.
- Their fielding is the worst in the comp, even the netherlands and canada are better fielders than these lazy primma donnas. We can gain 30-40 runs from their sloppy fielding.
- Batting, their strength but can be their achilles heel, they tend to panic and lose lots of wickets quickly. Sehwag and the little master are the keys, apart from these two and dhoni they dont take many quick singles and if the big shots dont come off they dont have a plan B.
- Lastly the pressure from the screaming crowd and 2 billion Indians will be too much to bare.
I actually think we will win easily.


Fair assessment. It'll be interesting to see what happens hey?

For the sake of Australian cricket I hope we get flogged - cos I'm sick of this patch up job the selectors are doing with the side. It reminds me a bit of an aging AFL side that's clinging to the top for one more tilt. Another great finals campaign and the old timers think about going around again.

In my eyes, if we make it to the semi's it's more a demonstration of luck than good management. Also, that will (in their eyes) justify that we're on the right track long term - which I don't think we are.
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:22 pm

Jim05 wrote:My reasons why we will beat India.
- out of all the teams left their bowling is the worst by a fair bit, their quicks are rubbish and they will need an absolute turner of a pitch because they rely on barj and he is out of form at moment.
- Their fielding is the worst in the comp, even the netherlands and canada are better fielders than these lazy primma donnas. We can gain 30-40 runs from their sloppy fielding.
- Batting, their strength but can be their achilles heel, they tend to panic and lose lots of wickets quickly. Sehwag and the little master are the keys, apart from these two and dhoni they dont take many quick singles and if the big shots dont come off they dont have a plan B.
- Lastly the pressure from the screaming crowd and 2 billion Indians will be too much to bare.
I actually think we will win easily.


The pitch will be a road, the selector's heads will remain up their arse and we'll chase 320. If Watto fails we won't make 200 and he if bats well we get 260. Going in with three attacking bowlers against the Indian batting lineup is suicide..especially with Smith not bowling and White not batting. The eleven of the last two matches can't win the cup. Paine and Hussey in for Smith and White and we might beat India as you say.

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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:24 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:My reasons why we will beat India.
- out of all the teams left their bowling is the worst by a fair bit, their quicks are rubbish and they will need an absolute turner of a pitch because they rely on barj and he is out of form at moment.
- Their fielding is the worst in the comp, even the netherlands and canada are better fielders than these lazy primma donnas. We can gain 30-40 runs from their sloppy fielding.
- Batting, their strength but can be their achilles heel, they tend to panic and lose lots of wickets quickly. Sehwag and the little master are the keys, apart from these two and dhoni they dont take many quick singles and if the big shots dont come off they dont have a plan B.
- Lastly the pressure from the screaming crowd and 2 billion Indians will be too much to bare.
I actually think we will win easily.


Fair assessment. It'll be interesting to see what happens hey?

For the sake of Australian cricket I hope we get flogged - cos I'm sick of this patch up job the selectors are doing with the side. It reminds me a bit of an aging AFL side that's clinging to the top for one more tilt. Another great finals campaign and the old timers think about going around again.

In my eyes, if we make it to the semi's it's more a demonstration of luck than good management. Also, that will (in their eyes) justify that we're on the right track long term - which I don't think we are.



Quite right but if we beat India in India it is more than just luck.

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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby stampy » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:56 pm

Jim05 wrote:
stampy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Jim05 wrote:One quarter final scheduled for colombo and no surprises that Sri Lanka drew a home final.
Reckon we will beat India


Well they are hosting it mate.


yeah i had a giggle at that :D

My point is that when i looked at the draw before the cup started i remember than the group a winner v group b 4th place was the scheduled game for colombo yet now it has changed so the lankans get it.
Wonder what the outcome was if sri lanka drew india in next round?
And for those who remember australia hosted the wc but played NZ in NZ, double standards by ICC perhaps


yes but that was in a group match, the kiwis then lost the semi final to the pakis on home turf after the contrived to keep us out somehow, cant remember exactly but was at the gfc watching the last few overs of that match and everyone was cheering for the pakis and were esctatic when the sheep lovers got rolled
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby Jim05 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:00 pm

Paine and Dussey are a must.
Paine can clear the fence as good as white and is a good player of spin who can nudge 1's and 2's in the middle overs.
The pitch will be a turner but krejza is useless, id keep smith in and use him and d.hussey to perform spin duties.
Why doesnt clarke bowl anymore? Thought his spin would be useful on indian pitches, time for him to step up and bowl.
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Clarke
M.Hussey
Paine
Smith
Johnson
Lee
Tait
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Re: World Cup - games that don't include Australia

Postby stampy » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:02 pm

agree with gadj, 8t wont be a bad thing if we get beatas everyone who cares realises that our national team in all forms of the game needs a massive overhaul
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