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Jimmy_041 wrote:Gaza Sports & Community Club Inc v D Rosella?

The Big Shrek wrote:I hear the proposed fine a while ago was $100k. $50k suspended, $50k to be paid over 10 years. Seems a negotiated outcome was a better option than this rigmarole.

The problem with punishing clubs is who are you really punishing? Gaza isn't a person. Legally it is a entity and it's made up of its members and responsible for its executive's actions but I suspect the executives have moved on. All you really do is cripple a club who by in large are comprised of decent people who aren't morally culpable for what a few ding bats have done but dig in to keep the club going.

I'd be a bigger fan of prosecutions for the individuals that lied in stat decs and laying the blame at their door. I understood that to be the purpose of creating the procedure of signing the things.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few of the mercenary players copping half a year on the sidelines too. They were by in large complicit in it and with a couple of exceptions I reckon were happy to do it for their own benefit rather than the club's.

It seems to me the decent people at the club will put in the extra work over many years to sort this out. The rest move on away from Gaza. If I had the power I'd order the guilty ones empty the bins and clean the changerooms there for the next 10 years.

The Big Shrek wrote:I hear the proposed fine a while ago was $100k. $50k suspended, $50k to be paid over 10 years. Seems a negotiated outcome was a better option than this rigmarole.

The problem with punishing clubs is who are you really punishing? Gaza isn't a person. Legally it is a entity and it's made up of its members and responsible for its executive's actions but I suspect the executives have moved on. All you really do is cripple a club who by in large are comprised of decent people who aren't morally culpable for what a few ding bats have done but dig in to keep the club going.

I'd be a bigger fan of prosecutions for the individuals that lied in stat decs and laying the blame at their door. I understood that to be the purpose of creating the procedure of signing the things.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few of the mercenary players copping half a year on the sidelines too. They were by in large complicit in it and with a couple of exceptions I reckon were happy to do it for their own benefit rather than the club's.

It seems to me the decent people at the club will put in the extra work over many years to sort this out. The rest move on away from Gaza. If I had the power I'd order the guilty ones empty the bins and clean the changerooms there for the next 10 years.

MW wrote:I'm confused...
They were fined 300k, then that was cancelled, now they are guilty and will be fined?

tigerpie wrote:Send them back to z division, minimal fine so the club can still survive. Halve their points allocation for 2 years.
If they introduced criminal convictions to presidents/boards would that stop all the shenanigans with player payments?
I mean are boards committing fraud by keeping two sets of books?
It wouldn't stop a sponsor from slipping a couple of hundred in your pocket after the game I know.

tigerpie wrote:Send them back to z division, minimal fine so the club can still survive. Halve their points allocation for 2 years.
If they introduced criminal convictions to presidents/boards would that stop all the shenanigans with player payments?
I mean are boards committing fraud by keeping two sets of books?
It wouldn't stop a sponsor from slipping a couple of hundred in your pocket after the game I know.

The Gaza Football Club salary cap scandal has taken yet another twist with police called to the club overnight.

SA Police attended the club at 7pm on Thursday after a meeting between three club members, including president Don Rosella, became heated.

The members were asked to leave the premises by police, which they did.

No arrests were made.

The altercation comes just a day after the club was found guilty by an independent SANFL tribunal on 223 counts of salary cap breaches through the 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2022 Adelaide Footy League seasons.

President Rosella was also found guilty by Justice Michael David, KC for involvement in breaches during 2021 and 2022.

At the hearing, Rosella and lawyer Greg Griffin claimed he caught wind of breaches before becoming president in 2020 and tried to stop them by removing the people involved.

“As a consequence of his (Rosella’s) hard line position, he was completely kept out of the loop by the football department and had nothing to do with the payments,” Mr Griffin said.

“Weak coaches and weak club officials sat back and let it happen.”

Mr Rosella faces a potential suspension of 10 years from holding an official role with any SANFL-affiliated club.

The club was originally fined $380,000 and could be docked player and premiership points ahead of next season.

However, Justice Michael David will make submissions on penalties which will be considered by a SANFL committee when the tribunal reconvenes on Tuesday, February 20, meaning lesser penalties may apply.

wenchbarwer wrote:

tigerpie wrote:Send them back to z division, minimal fine so the club can still survive. Halve their points allocation for 2 years.
If they introduced criminal convictions to presidents/boards would that stop all the shenanigans with player payments?
I mean are boards committing fraud by keeping two sets of books?
It wouldn't stop a sponsor from slipping a couple of hundred in your pocket after the game I know.

You would also want to include coaches and whoever does the contracts in that lot

Pepsi wrote:some Intel on a food fight in the club rooms, apparently even a cabbage thrown out the door

The Big Shrek wrote:I have heard a physical altercation between Rosella and either a, or more than one Radetti.

Rosella and Griffin need to answer some questions. Maybe they were asked some last night.