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Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:27 am
by jo172
whufc wrote:Gaza aren't going to come out looking good if their defense is going to be they 'loaned' a player money.


That the members aren't looking into what they have to do to topple the Committee, appoint a new one, and come to the SANFL painting any breaches as a few bad eggs and seeking leniency is baffling.

In respect of any of these the best way of managing it is for the committee involved in the breaches to fall on their sword and take up golf for a few years.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:26 am
by redyellow&blue
jo172 wrote:
whufc wrote:Gaza aren't going to come out looking good if their defense is going to be they 'loaned' a player money.


That the members aren't looking into what they have to do to topple the Committee, appoint a new one, and come to the SANFL painting any breaches as a few bad eggs and seeking leniency is baffling.

In respect of any of these the best way of managing it is for the committee involved in the breaches to fall on their sword and take up golf for a few years.


Thats what happens when you've got years of arrogance and impunity behind you.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:59 am
by morell
If it was a loan I'm sure the fully executed contract detailing the terms, repayment schedule and other conditions will be made available.

If not then ...

Its not a loan.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:17 am
by jo172
morell wrote:If it was a loan I'm sure the fully executed contract detailing the terms, repayment schedule and other conditions will be made available.

If not then ...

Its not a loan.


The term seems to be an interest free loan repayable upon demand if you want to get a clearance out.

Presumably if you don't clear out for six years and no demand is made within in the timeframe the player can then rely upon limitations legislation and take the full benefit of the loan.

So yeah, what we call in the business a "sign on fee"

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:47 am
by Fools Gold
Jeez, hiring Greg Griffin isn't going to be the best optics for anyone looking in. Feel like anyone on the fence will hop off now :shock:

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:59 am
by whufc
jo172 wrote:
morell wrote:If it was a loan I'm sure the fully executed contract detailing the terms, repayment schedule and other conditions will be made available.

If not then ...

Its not a loan.


The term seems to be an interest free loan repayable upon demand if you want to get a clearance out.

Presumably if you don't clear out for six years and no demand is made within in the timeframe the player can then rely upon limitations legislation and take the full benefit of the loan.

So yeah, what we call in the business a "sign on fee"


Yep so the entire defense is going to be based around the semantics of a 'loan'

From what an SANFL official mentioned at a recent event however was that it wasn't just about the sign on fees, they had allegedly broken every rule in the book with around 420 pages of evidence to suggest so.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:06 pm
by Jimmy_041
Fricky wrote:SA lawyer Greg Griffin set to lead Gaza Football Club salary cap breach appeal
A local SA footy club is set to lodge an appeal over the coming days of a record penalty handed down by SANFL for alleged salary cap breaches dating back to 2018.
Division four Adelaide Footy League club Gaza has enlisted high-profile SA lawyer Greg Griffin as it prepares to lodge an appeal to SANFL after being charged with a number of salary cap breaches between 2018-2022.
The club received a state record $380,000 fine and a reduction in player and premiership points as a result.
Club president Don Rosella also received a 10-year suspension from holding any official role with a SANFL-affiliated club, while two other club officials received three years each.
Griffin said the club had evidence it did not breach community football salary cap rules and regulations and revealed details regarding the payment of a past player.
“There is serious dispute as to whether Gaza did anything wrong when it comes to salary cap,” Griffin said.
“The club vehemently objected to the transfer of a player to another club earlier this year after the player refused $4,000 which was loaned to him for personal reasons.
“The player then decided to treat it as a sign-on fee, but Gaza has evidence to the contrary and never treated it as anything other than an advance.
“This incident has been used as a main pillar of the breaches.”

Griffin said Gaza was confident an appeal would be successful but that he was sceptical of the SANFL’s appeal process.
“Gaza is confident and would not invest in this process unless there was a prospect of success,” he said.
“I have serious reservations about the process though and my grave concern is that the SANFL conducts the inquiry and determines the penalty but then you have to go to the SANFL to appeal their own decision.
“Why isn’t this going out to an independent person or body who can properly assess the situation?”
Gaza will hold a meeting on Sunday to determine how it will fund the appeal.
It is expected members of the public and club members and supporters will be able to provide a boost.
“These sorts of events usually galvanise clubs, particularly community clubs, and there’s people coming out of the woodwork who are willing to help,” Griffin said.
While Gaza has aired concerns a $380,000 fine would eradicate the club, SANFL chief Darren Chandler said the sporting body’s goal was not to wipe the club off of the map.
“This was an extensive investigation that went over a long period of time and that process is continuing, so our team will continue to work with Gaza,” Chandler told Triple M’s The Rush Hour.
“We’re certainly not in this to shut the doors of clubs but at the same time we want to make sure that all clubs throughout the state abide by the rules and regulations that are in place.
“If they reject the charges it will go to a tribunal but if not there will be a process we go through to make sure we get an appropriate outcome everyone is satisfied with.
“We’ll work with Gaza and let’s hope we can get an outcome that is appropriate … and we want to make sure we the club for many years to come.”
The club has 10 days left to officially lodge an appeal.


A $4,000 loan is a main pillar of the breaches?
You mean $4,000 out of a total of $380,000 in breaches? :shock: :shock:
OK......... Can't wait to see how that argument is made

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:12 pm
by woodublieve12
this literally sums up Gaza

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Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 1:14 am
by The Old Fellow
The President being a procurement officer may have purchased too many or the wrong type of player at the wrong price and now may need to pay the penalty.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:28 pm
by goddy11
Fools Gold wrote:Jeez, hiring Greg Griffin isn't going to be the best optics for anyone looking in. Feel like anyone on the fence will hop off now :shock:


Greg Griffen, say no more. The ambulance chaser never misses an opportunity.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:05 am
by WHEELS&DEALS
So any talk on how Yesterday went.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:22 pm
by Fools Gold
Gaza running a gofundme for legal fees is absolutely wild

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 6:12 pm
by Jimmy_041
Fools Gold wrote:Gaza running a gofundme for legal fees is absolutely wild


The President and his missus have put up $1,000 of the $2,695
He might need it later himself..............

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:02 pm
by DOC
If they are that stupid to appoint The Wig then they can pay. They have no hope of winning as he would know but it is his SOP to take on these cases, bleed them, back to the bar.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:31 am
by WHEELS&DEALS
Don't waste money on big shot Lawyers and work with the league. People may want to help the club out a bit more.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:50 am
by Jimmy_041
$2,795 today

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:05 pm
by blublurag
This line on their gofundme page made me laugh...

"Every contribution counts in our pursuit of fairness in community sports."

The last thing they were doing was worrying about fairness in community sports, hence the charge.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:57 pm
by Jimmy_041
Cracked the $3k tonight

$3,017

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:09 pm
by Purple Warrior
WHEELS&DEALS wrote:Don't waste money on big shot Lawyers and work with the league. People may want to help the club out a bit more.

Maybe the league should hire the big shot lawyers or even captain obvious to look at other clubs that are clearly over the cap.
2 wrongs dont make a right but neither does turning a blind eye to the leagues golden children

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:26 pm
by Footy Chick
Purple Warrior wrote:
WHEELS&DEALS wrote:Don't waste money on big shot Lawyers and work with the league. People may want to help the club out a bit more.

Maybe the league should hire the big shot lawyers or even captain obvious to look at other clubs that are clearly over the cap.
2 wrongs dont make a right but neither does turning a blind eye to the leagues golden children



the league aren't the ones who investigate.

It's the SANFL