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Definition of a win

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 4:25 pm
by Footy Chick
Just heard on the newsbreak that the Dees "Thrashed" the Crows by 41 points.

I wouldn't exactly call that a thrashing on the win scale, it's a big win - but would you classify it as a thrashing?

Time to establish a win scale I reckon, so wins and losses can't be under or overstated

1-10 points - thriller, I think that can be agreed upon for the best part...


What type of margin do you classify as a thrashing?

What's worse, a thrashing or a thumping?

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 4:27 pm
by Corona Man
Anything over 10 goals in my book.

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 4:31 pm
by VALE PARK
If a team completely dominates the contest.
Last half Melbourne 12 goals Crows 3 goals.
To me that is a thrashing!

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 4:38 pm
by Footy Chick
VALE PARK wrote:If a team completely dominates the contest.
Last half Melbourne 12 goals Crows 3 goals.
To me that is a thrashing!



Don't disagree but I'm talking by way of results here...

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 4:50 pm
by bennymacca
We got thrashed. No two ways about it

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 5:01 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
On referencing last nights match

It was a thrashing. Crows were expected to win by the margin they lost by.

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 5:11 pm
by Footy Chick
So it's fair to say that a thrashing isn't as simple as the numbers at the end of the game but is also defined by the expectations of the teams before the game?

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 5:18 pm
by MW
Thrashed when you are outscored 15 goals to 3 halfway through the 2nd qu

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 8:07 pm
by daysofourlives
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:On referencing last nights match

It was a thrashing. Crows were expected to win by the margin they lost by.


Nail on the head, all to do with expectation

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:41 am
by Lightning McQueen
daysofourlives wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:On referencing last nights match

It was a thrashing. Crows were expected to win by the margin they lost by.


Nail on the head, all to do with expectation

Yep, that's my take, if it was the other way around it would've been a win.

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:56 pm
by Arch44
Any win v Port is a thrashing/thumping. That's all that matters.

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:53 pm
by Pag
I think it also depends on how the game pans out. Melbourne outscored the Crows by something like 68 points in the last two-and-a-half quarters, that is a thrashing, even if the final margin might not reflect the dominance they showed.

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:59 pm
by zedman
Pag wrote:I think it also depends on how the game pans out. Melbourne outscored the Crows by something like 68 points in the last two-and-a-half quarters, that is a thrashing, even if the final margin might not reflect the dominance they showed.


agree with this..i look at a thumping as being a thrashing but with a scary scoreline to go with it..

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 2:17 pm
by gadj1976
It is more about margin for me.

Carlton were thrashed by Port at Adelaide Oval a few weeks ago. But Melbourne didn't 'thrash' Adelaide. 40 odd points isn't a thrashing I wouldn't have thought. Adelaide were thrashed in the second half but not overall (if that makes sense).

Maybe 60 points is the threshold in my mind. I'm thinking 12 goals is definitely a thrashing, but 8 goals isn't.... so 10 goals would be about right.

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:23 pm
by The Bedge
gadj1976 wrote:It is more about margin for me.

Carlton were thrashed by Port at Adelaide Oval a few weeks ago. But Melbourne didn't 'thrash' Adelaide. 40 odd points isn't a thrashing I wouldn't have thought. Adelaide were thrashed in the second half but not overall (if that makes sense).

Maybe 60 points is the threshold in my mind. I'm thinking 12 goals is definitely a thrashing, but 8 goals isn't.... so 10 goals would be about right.

What if you expected and were expected to win by say 10 goals, and you lose by 7 goals? Would you consider that a thrashing?

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:17 pm
by human_torpedo
Zartan wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:It is more about margin for me.

Carlton were thrashed by Port at Adelaide Oval a few weeks ago. But Melbourne didn't 'thrash' Adelaide. 40 odd points isn't a thrashing I wouldn't have thought. Adelaide were thrashed in the second half but not overall (if that makes sense).

Maybe 60 points is the threshold in my mind. I'm thinking 12 goals is definitely a thrashing, but 8 goals isn't.... so 10 goals would be about right.

What if you expected and were expected to win by say 10 goals, and you lose by 7 goals? Would you consider that a thrashing?

Nah I wouldn't TBH. Because I don't see a 7 goal margin as a thrashing..

So by your theory of a 17 goal expected turn around, if Port were expected to win by 14 goals but lost by 3 goals, is that also a thrashing?

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:33 pm
by The Bedge
human_torpedo wrote:So by your theory of a 17 goal expected turn around, if Port were expected to win by 14 goals but lost by 3 goals, is that also a thrashing?

I'll answer that question with this:
Arch44 wrote:Any win v Port is a thrashing/thumping. That's all that matters.

:lol:

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 6:04 pm
by gadj1976
human_torpedo wrote:
Zartan wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:It is more about margin for me.

Carlton were thrashed by Port at Adelaide Oval a few weeks ago. But Melbourne didn't 'thrash' Adelaide. 40 odd points isn't a thrashing I wouldn't have thought. Adelaide were thrashed in the second half but not overall (if that makes sense).

Maybe 60 points is the threshold in my mind. I'm thinking 12 goals is definitely a thrashing, but 8 goals isn't.... so 10 goals would be about right.

What if you expected and were expected to win by say 10 goals, and you lose by 7 goals? Would you consider that a thrashing?

Nah I wouldn't TBH. Because I don't see a 7 goal margin as a thrashing..

So by your theory of a 17 goal expected turn around, if Port were expected to win by 14 goals but lost by 3 goals, is that also a thrashing?


Correct. If I was going in expecting to win by 14 goals I would be saying 'I expect to thrash them today'. If I was expecting 14 goals and lost by 3 I would firstly spew and the say 'we got beaten by 3 goals'.

Conversely when i went to the Carlton game at Adelaide Oval I expected to be beaten by 10-12 goals. We were thrashed although by my expectation we only lost by 3 more goals than i expected.

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:58 pm
by bennymacca
gadj1976 wrote:It is more about margin for me.

Carlton were thrashed by Port at Adelaide Oval a few weeks ago. But Melbourne didn't 'thrash' Adelaide. 40 odd points isn't a thrashing I wouldn't have thought. Adelaide were thrashed in the second half but not overall (if that makes sense).

Maybe 60 points is the threshold in my mind. I'm thinking 12 goals is definitely a thrashing, but 8 goals isn't.... so 10 goals would be about right.


if a team gets the first 10 kicked against them, and then with the game over meanders for the next 3 quarters, but ends up in an 8 goal win, thats still a thrashing

Re: Definition of a win

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 7:15 am
by Ian
VALE PARK wrote:If a team completely dominates the contest.
Last half Melbourne 12 goals Crows 3 goals.
To me that is a thrashing!


I'd call that a 2nd half thrashing

The overall game result could be called a big win, great win and many other things, definitely not a thrashing