SA Footy

Just wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me.

What does the AFL actually provide to grassroots footy clubs here in SA?

Obviously they are investing a heap of cash into places like the Gold Coast, NSW, and Qld, but what do they pump back into the traditional footy states?

I hear that a grassroots club gets a small figure of $1k if a player from that club gets drafted (is that correct?) I don't hear of any other support the afl provides though.

I hear that the afl makes a good amount of coin off the Auskick program (which the clubs do all the leg work for from what I'm told) too.

The occasional visit by a photo afl listed player to a local school is all I really hear of.

Would the afl ever consider giving grants to struggling clubs, or offer some kind of support to help their growth?

Thoughts?

bird of prey wrote:Just wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me.

What does the AFL actually provide to grassroots footy clubs here in SA?

Obviously they are investing a heap of cash into places like the Gold Coast, NSW, and Qld, but what do they pump back into the traditional footy states?

I hear that a grassroots club gets a small figure of $1k if a player from that club gets drafted (is that correct?) I don't hear of any other support the afl provides though.

I hear that the afl makes a good amount of coin off the Auskick program (which the clubs do all the leg work for from what I'm told) too.

The occasional visit by a photo afl listed player to a local school is all I really hear of.

Would the afl ever consider giving grants to struggling clubs, or offer some kind of support to help their growth?

Thoughts?

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think it's something like that when a player is drafted as has nominated your club as his junior club. I think there is then a bonus when he play's his first AFL game, then another for each 50-game milestone thereafter?

Pag wrote:

bird of prey wrote:Just wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me.

What does the AFL actually provide to grassroots footy clubs here in SA?

Obviously they are investing a heap of cash into places like the Gold Coast, NSW, and Qld, but what do they pump back into the traditional footy states?

I hear that a grassroots club gets a small figure of $1k if a player from that club gets drafted (is that correct?) I don't hear of any other support the afl provides though.

I hear that the afl makes a good amount of coin off the Auskick program (which the clubs do all the leg work for from what I'm told) too.

The occasional visit by a photo afl listed player to a local school is all I really hear of.

Would the afl ever consider giving grants to struggling clubs, or offer some kind of support to help their growth?

Thoughts?

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think it's something like that when a player is drafted as has nominated your club as his junior club. I think there is then a bonus when he play's his first AFL game, then another for each 50-game milestone thereafter?

Seemingly, when I ran Smithfield Sports and Social Club we chased up this for Travis Varcoe and got nowhere many times.

SANFL club get the $, should be some scheme where a portion of it then goes back to the grassroots club.

Dutchy wrote:SANFL club get the $, should be some scheme where a portion of it then goes back to the grassroots club.

If you don't chase your SANFL club to the ends of the earth (and even then some) they won't hand it over.

We have a major sponsor's worth of funds sitting in the coffers of a couple of League Clubs.

The sooner the SANFL falls over the better.

jo172 wrote:

Dutchy wrote:SANFL club get the $, should be some scheme where a portion of it then goes back to the grassroots club.

If you don't chase your SANFL club to the ends of the earth (and even then some) they won't hand it over.

We have a major sponsor's worth of funds sitting in the coffers of a couple of League Clubs.

The sooner the SANFL falls over the better.

Surely this is where the CFL steps in?

I guess there can be some contention on what club the $ could go to if the kid has gone thru a few clubs, but a simply check of registrations and where he was the majority of the time would quickly solve it.

Dutchy wrote:SANFL club get the $, should be some scheme where a portion of it then goes back to the grassroots club.

Pretty sure 30% is supposed to go back to the Grassroots club.

Pag wrote:Someone will correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think it's something like that when a player is drafted as has nominated your club as his junior club. I think there is then a bonus when he play's his first AFL game, then another for each 50-game milestone thereafter?

$20k on drafting.
$15k on 20 AFL games.

Broken Down:
40% - Club
30% - League
30% - Zone

*Taken from NEMJFA website*

Dutchy wrote:

jo172 wrote:

Dutchy wrote:SANFL club get the $, should be some scheme where a portion of it then goes back to the grassroots club.

If you don't chase your SANFL club to the ends of the earth (and even then some) they won't hand it over.

We have a major sponsor's worth of funds sitting in the coffers of a couple of League Clubs.

The sooner the SANFL falls over the better.

Surely this is where the CFL steps in?

I guess there can be some contention on what club the $ could go to if the kid has gone thru a few clubs, but a simply check of registrations and where he was the majority of the time would quickly solve it.

It's a bit of a tight-rope when you're trying to keep a healthy relationship with said League Club (and the Senior Coach has his own loyalties to the League Club).

Zartan wrote:

Pag wrote:Someone will correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think it's something like that when a player is drafted as has nominated your club as his junior club. I think there is then a bonus when he play's his first AFL game, then another for each 50-game milestone thereafter?

$20k on drafting.
$15k on 20 AFL games.

Broken Down:
40% - Club
30% - League
30% - Zone

*Taken from NEMJFA website*

It used to be a $$ amount on milestone games and GF's as well, I remember reading about it when Joel Patful got drafted back in the day - that was obviously some years ago now though.

I think the player actually had to nominate the grassroots club for the club to get any reward from it too, otherwise the SANFL club cashes in.

Footy Chick wrote:I think the player actually had to nominate the grassroots club for the club to get any reward from it too, otherwise the SANFL club cashes in.

Don't all the players nominate the grassroots club leading into the draft? That's why when they call out the name they say like "Pick 11, Adelaide Crows select Wayne Milera - Ingle Farm Jnr Football Club, Central Districts Football Club"

So no other AFL support for Grassroots club, apart from a few that are lucky enough to get money from players being drafted?

Seems like the AFL are taking grassroots clubs for granted, and using all money for the bloody rugby states.

bird of prey wrote:So no other AFL support for Grassroots club, apart from a few that are lucky enough to get money from players being drafted?

Seems like the AFL are taking grassroots clubs for granted, and using all money for the bloody rugby states.

I remember hearing from a lady who worked grassroots in QLD on the Sunshine Coast, and she said the AFL do bugger all up there as well, despite the fact they spruik and take credit for the work being done.

Not sure AFL really actually gives much if anything back to grassroots, but they'll obviously continue to promote it and talk it up because it translates into participation numbers, sponsorship dollars, attendance numbers at games.. it's all about the $$.

The SANFL used to manage this, referred to as the "AFL Talent Development Fee" where you invoice them and they would pay. (at least up to a couple of years ago). This may still be the case. You need to prove a playing record with your club and include this with the invoice. Matt Duldig used to be the contact, not sure who does it now.

The SANFL now pay $500 for each player making their debut (in the SANFL). No need for an invoice, they stump up with the cheque which is a bit easier.

Zartan wrote:

bird of prey wrote:So no other AFL support for Grassroots club, apart from a few that are lucky enough to get money from players being drafted?

Seems like the AFL are taking grassroots clubs for granted, and using all money for the bloody rugby states.

I remember hearing from a lady who worked grassroots in QLD on the Sunshine Coast, and she said the AFL do bugger all up there as well, despite the fact they spruik and take credit for the work being done.

Not sure AFL really actually gives much if anything back to grassroots, but they'll obviously continue to promote it and talk it up because it translates into participation numbers, sponsorship dollars, attendance numbers at games.. it's all about the $$.

So they hold back money from the AFL players and tell them it's because they need to "grow the game", yet all they're probably doing is using it to bankroll Gold Coast and GWS.

Pag wrote:

bird of prey wrote:Just wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me.

What does the AFL actually provide to grassroots footy clubs here in SA?

Obviously they are investing a heap of cash into places like the Gold Coast, NSW, and Qld, but what do they pump back into the traditional footy states?

I hear that a grassroots club gets a small figure of $1k if a player from that club gets drafted (is that correct?) I don't hear of any other support the afl provides though.

I hear that the afl makes a good amount of coin off the Auskick program (which the clubs do all the leg work for from what I'm told) too.

The occasional visit by a photo afl listed player to a local school is all I really hear of.

Would the afl ever consider giving grants to struggling clubs, or offer some kind of support to help their growth?

Thoughts?

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think it's something like that when a player is drafted as has nominated your club as his junior club. I think there is then a bonus when he play's his first AFL game, then another for each 50-game milestone thereafter?

I'm still trying to find out the exact info on what clubs get. If someone can find it, please shoot it through to me. It seems to be invisible as far as the www is concerned.

18.4 of the SACFL Regulations (http://sanfl.com.au/wp-content/uploads/ ... ersion.pdf)

Each Zone Advisory Council may decide on the way ... transfer fees are divided... minimum 40% but be paid to Affiliated League Club...

Effectively our clubs used to get a cash amount to reward us for a drafted player that debuts + another payment after 10 games

Now it has been turned into a "grant" that needs to be used for the development of junior football. Of course all us incompetent clubs are incapable of using their generous gift for suitable purposes in their eyes so we need to account for every dollar only supporting junior football as that is the only valuable service we provide to the game at our lowly level.