lower grade association medals

[Footy Chick]

Hi gang

For those that were there last night- and have been going to these for a while, will know that the turn out didn't exactly set the world on fire compared to previous years.

Realising you can't speak for your whole club - but how would you like to see this changed, which would bring the punters back in droves, just like back in the day.

Are people not going because it's not worth driving all the way into Thebby for a 5 minute powerpoint presentation and then head home again?

Does it need to go out to the clubs?

Do the divs need to be separated or sorts? We already have D1/2 - do we do 3/4, then a 5/6/7 dinner?

Does each division each need their own count (this would be lovely but possibly a logistic nightmare)

I will actually get TPTB to take everything into consideration, however I'm guessing that the final vote would go to the clubs at a delegates meeting.

[The Bedge]

Are people not going because it's not worth driving all the way into Thebby for a 5 minute powerpoint presentation and then head home again?

Yes

[The Bedge]

Split Divisions up and do full counts on a night.. make clubs purchase a table of say 10, include a drinks package if possible.

Clubs could fill a table of 10 easy enough - coach, footy director, top vote getters..

Create Powerpoints that go through each round to speed things up a bit, should take around 30-45min per div to knock it off, could get through 2xdivs in an evening..

[Arch44]

Split Divisions up and do full counts on a night.. make clubs purchase a table of say 10, include a drinks package if possible.

Clubs could fill a table of 10 easy enough - coach, footy director, top vote getters..

Create Powerpoints that go through each round to speed things up a bit, should take around 30-45min per div to knock it off, could get through 2xdivs in an evening..

Sounds good but I reckon if there was drinks a package that would come at a cost and I'm not convinced people would pay to go.
I would still go though and be a snob.

[The Bedge]

Sounds good but I reckon if there was drinks a package that would come at a cost and I'm not convinced people would pay to go.
I would still go though and be a snob.

Obviously would come at a cost - perhaps force clubs to purchase a table of say 10 and then it's up to them to recoup the cost however they choose - whether that be charging attendees or whatever.

I would happily pay to go have a few drinks and watch a couple of counts knowing it wouldn't be over as quick as my bedroom antics

[Mr Beefy]

Not worth going for a 5 minute presso, that's over before you know it.
5 minute presso is degrading to every division bar D1 and D2.

[jo172]

Split Divisions up and do full counts on a night.. make clubs purchase a table of say 10, include a drinks package if possible.

Clubs could fill a table of 10 easy enough - coach, footy director, top vote getters..

Create Powerpoints that go through each round to speed things up a bit, should take around 30-45min per div to knock it off, could get through 2xdivs in an evening..

So essentially the Div 1/Div 2 medal count then?

Pay for it in installments as part of your calls throughout the year and boom, there it is.

[Junior coach]

Hi gang

For those that were there last night- and have been going to these for a while, will know that the turn out didn't exactly set the world on fire compared to previous years.

Realising you can't speak for your whole club - but how would you like to see this changed, which would bring the punters back in droves, just like back in the day.

Are people not going because it's not worth driving all the way into Thebby for a 5 minute powerpoint presentation and then head home again?

Does it need to go out to the clubs?

Do the divs need to be separated or sorts? We already have D1/2 - do we do 3/4, then a 5/6/7 dinner?

Does each division each need their own count (this would be lovely but possibly a logistic nightmare)

I will actually get TPTB to take everything into consideration, however I'm guessing that the final vote would go to the clubs at a delegates meeting.

Bring it back to the clubs so the clubs can make some money like they do in the juniors it's a win win it helps struggling clubs.

[morell]

Get the voting system right so the award itself is not as meaningless as a participation certificate printed from Microsoft Publisher.

[Q.]

Get the voting system right so the award itself is not as meaningless as a participation certificate printed from Microsoft Publisher.

Honestly, how many of the A-Grade winners do you think weren't worthy of their medal due to the voting system?

The answer is, none.

[morell]

So only the winners should go then? As FC's question was in regards to getting more numbers to the night.

Make the voting system fairer or more representative, so people feel like their good games are actually going to get recognised, and you might get a few more people.

EDIT - and yeah, I do think there have been winners of the award that haven't been anywhere near the best and fairest in their comp.

[human_torpedo]

I like how they released the top 20, or maybe if they were doing the invites maybe the top 3 from each club could be an option.. Needs to be umpires, mistakes are made like always but they are the only 'independent' people who wouldn't compromise votes (you hope)

[morell]

Sigh.

We've always done it this way, therefore its the only way.

[human_torpedo]

Coaches pick a 3-2-1? How much bickering would go on, especially in close games.. What other way would you do it? Im sure a Morell theory is just waiting to burst out here, fire away

[Footy Chick]

Do it in your own thread and leave mine alone!

[morell]

Hahahah, FC this is pertinent to getting more people to the night!!

Already been done and dusted in the D7 thread.

Copy the AFL coaches MVP award. Both coaches give their votes 5-4-3-2-1 for BOTH teams. Votes are then combined.

So its might be

Mitchell Park Coach
5 - Q. (Houghton)
4 - human torpedo (Houghton)
3 - marbles (Mitchell Park)
2 - Zartan (Mitchell Park)
1 - morell (Mitchell Park)

Houghton Coach
5 - human torpedo (Houghton)
4 - marbles (Mitchell Park)
3 - Q. (Houghton)
2 - Zartan (Mitchell Park)
1 - Footy Chick (Houghton)

Total
9 - human torpedo (Houghton)
8 - Q. (Houghton)
7 - marbles (Mitchell Park)
4 - Zartan (Mitchell Park)
1 - morell (Mitchell Park)
1 - Footy Chick (Houghton)

That way, you get people who know what they're talking about AND inherent bias is mitigated by the opposition coaches votes.

Its particularly laughable in the reserves. It is a farce at that level.

[human_torpedo]

Accurate summation. Not sure what the Mitchell Park coach was watching but anyway, Houghton are switched on!

Nah don't mind it

And throw it back to the clubs FC, split divs 1/2, 3/4, 5/6/7. Only issue is what you do with div 8 and C divisions, could become a bit of a nightmare trying to fill those nights, ill leave that one up to you

[Footy Chick]

Morgs....

[morell]

I can personally guarantee you, that there are players at my club (a lower division club), that were extremely miffed at the votes, I can also guarantee you that had the votes been more accurate they would have been invited and would have likely attended.

Just because you lot are all campfire-kumbaya-everyone-deserves-their-kudos-lets-celebrate-by-back-slapping-eachother-and-as-long-as-the-winner-is-right-the-rest-doesn't-matter ..... doesn't mean there aren't others that are highly analytical, thoughtful and precise. And vain. Kids these days man, they're all about the status.

You asked what was stopping people from attending and I am telling you the voting system is a contributing factor.

[Pag]

I think you could do it D3/D3R/D4/D4R all together in one night and not have any issues, from Rd 1-18 with a break between each. Get 20 clubs at the one place (maybe 200 people). Then the same for D5/D5R/D6/D6R etc at another venue.