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This applies for all divisions across the board and I have heard several different versions of this so want to put it out there with finals coming up!

How many games does a player have to play to be eligible to play finals for that team?
E.g. If a player is going between a's and b's all year, what ratio of games does he need to have played to play in the lower grade?
50/50? 70/30?
I am aware that if both A's and B's are in the finals than it doesn't matter, but what if the A's are not playing finals?
Also is there any loop holes or other rules to do with the last half of the season or playing the final 3 games in the lower grade etc?

My notes are that a player must register the minnimum amount of games (4) in that respective grade plus play the majority of the total games played. It cant be 50/50 (unless you get a permit) the lower grade games dont count if played higher on the same day. That is what i was given to run with mate. It doesnt effect my side at this stage. I only go by majority of games played and the minnimum games of 4 to qualify. Hopefully that helps a bit.

Too hard to explain the whole situation so a quick run down of minimum requirements

must have played 4 games to qualify (if you play 2 on the same day then it only counts as one and the one played in the higher grade)

If you are unsure then ring the SAAFL and the newly appointed General Manager Football Operations will help you out

If a permit is required it then goes to the permit committee who make a final decision and a heads up the committee only get the game information and not players name or club when they make the decision

Hopefully that helps everyone out

So if a player has been out injured say he had a knee recon then he still has to play 4 games? surely if he can provide evidence that he was out injured he should get a permit. Our maybe in these cases it should be you have to do goal umpiring or interchange to show you where at the game.

SATCHEL wrote:My notes are that a player must register the minnimum amount of games (4) in that respective grade plus play the majority of the total games played. It cant be 50/50 (unless you get a permit) the lower grade games dont count if played higher on the same day. That is what i was given to run with mate. It doesnt effect my side at this stage. I only go by majority of games played and the minnimum games of 4 to qualify. Hopefully that helps a bit.

Cheers for this. Let's say that the 4 games required have been played. So when you say it can't be 50/50 your saying that they must play more games in the lower grade than the higher to be eligible to play finals in the lower grade?

Footy Follower wrote:

SATCHEL wrote:My notes are that a player must register the minnimum amount of games (4) in that respective grade plus play the majority of the total games played. It cant be 50/50 (unless you get a permit) the lower grade games dont count if played higher on the same day. That is what i was given to run with mate. It doesnt effect my side at this stage. I only go by majority of games played and the minnimum games of 4 to qualify. Hopefully that helps a bit.

Cheers for this. Let's say that the 4 games required have been played. So when you say it can't be 50/50 your saying that they must play more games in the lower grade than the higher to be eligible to play finals in the lower grade?

From experience it will depend on the circumstances. 2 years ago we had a bloke who played 7 A's and 7 B's, but the last 3 games he played in the A's and did not receive a permit.

Last year we had a guy who played 9 A's and 9 B's, but his last 8 were in the B's and the permit was granted.

In the past it's been that you had to have played a majority in the lower grade unless the higher grade is in the finals as well where players can slide.

If players play up and that side is knocked out of the finals, they can play down with a permit provided they have met the existing finals criteria ie played a majority of games in the lower side.

In the past 50 percent lower and fifty higher permits have been knocked back when the upper grade games have been the more recently played.

kickinit wrote:So if a player has been out injured say he had a knee recon then he still has to play 4 games? surely if he can provide evidence that he was out injured he should get a permit. Our maybe in these cases it should be you have to do goal umpiring or interchange to show you where at the game.

the 4 games is non negotiable

Executive Member wrote:

kickinit wrote:So if a player has been out injured say he had a knee recon then he still has to play 4 games? surely if he can provide evidence that he was out injured he should get a permit. Our maybe in these cases it should be you have to do goal umpiring or interchange to show you where at the game.

the 4 games is non negotiable

If that is the rule I believe it needs to be looked at.

E.g. You have a guy who's played at the club for the previous 10yrs but due to injury and or work he can only play a few minor round games. Surely he should be able to receive a permit to play finals?

If he's only played 3 games all year, he wouldn't exactly be match fit - why would you want him disrupting a finals side that's played together all year?

Footy Chick wrote:If he's only played 3 games all year, he wouldn't exactly be match fit - why would you want him disrupting a finals side that's played together all year?

As it is you have to bring in an extra player come finals. If he's played the last 3 and was one of your best players you would want him.

finn wrote:If players play up and that side is knocked out of the finals, they can play down with a permit provided they have met the existing finals criteria ie played a majority of games in the lower side.

In the past 50 percent lower and fifty higher permits have been knocked back when the upper grade games have been the more recently played.

Doesnt that sort of contradict itself though? I mean i'll use a personal circumstance as an example...

In 2007 i played the first 16 rounds in the 2's and was brought up to the A grade for the final 2 rounds of the season. Held my spot for the Elimination and Semi Finals until the A's were eliminated.

Under the first rule i should have qualified as i had played a majority of minor round matches in the 2's, yet, because the recent games were in the A grade i was denied......essentially whats the first rule in place for if your more than likely denied because of a couple of higher level matches? whats the clear cut ruling?

Clear cut rulling. Ring the league.

Footy Chick wrote:If he's only played 3 games all year, he wouldn't exactly be match fit - why would you want him disrupting a finals side that's played together all year?

Not to mention the player whos spot is taken by someone whos played 3 games all year.

SATCHEL wrote:Clear cut rulling. Ring the league.

Pretty much.

mypaddock wrote:

Executive Member wrote:

kickinit wrote:So if a player has been out injured say he had a knee recon then he still has to play 4 games? surely if he can provide evidence that he was out injured he should get a permit. Our maybe in these cases it should be you have to do goal umpiring or interchange to show you where at the game.

the 4 games is non negotiable

If that is the rule I believe it needs to be looked at.

E.g. You have a guy who's played at the club for the previous 10yrs but due to injury and or work he can only play a few minor round games. Surely he should be able to receive a permit to play finals?

I can't believe people actually bring this up as an issue. A player needs to play 4 games to play finals. Make sure he does. Simple.

Footy Chick wrote:If he's only played 3 games all year, he wouldn't exactly be match fit - why would you want him disrupting a finals side that's played together all year?

Cause he's the Milky Bar Kid

S Demon wrote:

mypaddock wrote:

Executive Member wrote:

kickinit wrote:So if a player has been out injured say he had a knee recon then he still has to play 4 games? surely if he can provide evidence that he was out injured he should get a permit. Our maybe in these cases it should be you have to do goal umpiring or interchange to show you where at the game.

the 4 games is non negotiable

If that is the rule I believe it needs to be looked at.

E.g. You have a guy who's played at the club for the previous 10yrs but due to injury and or work he can only play a few minor round games. Surely he should be able to receive a permit to play finals?

I can't believe people actually bring this up as an issue. A player needs to play 4 games to play finals. Make sure he does. Simple.

Agreed, if you haventpplayed 4 games there is no way you can justify that you should be playing finals, end of story

S Demon wrote:

mypaddock wrote:

Executive Member wrote:

kickinit wrote:So if a player has been out injured say he had a knee recon then he still has to play 4 games? surely if he can provide evidence that he was out injured he should get a permit. Our maybe in these cases it should be you have to do goal umpiring or interchange to show you where at the game.

the 4 games is non negotiable

If that is the rule I believe it needs to be looked at.

E.g. You have a guy who's played at the club for the previous 10yrs but due to injury and or work he can only play a few minor round games. Surely he should be able to receive a permit to play finals?

I can't believe people actually bring this up as an issue. A player needs to play 4 games to play finals. Make sure he does. Simple.

So if you did your knee this week and were out until R17 next year you don't think you should have a case for playing finals next year?

If a players is on your books I don't see why he should have to play any amount of games during the season. I totally understand guys not being allowed to play in lower grades etc but sometimes due to circumstance players deserving of playing finals are going to miss out; I don't think that falls in line with the spirit of the game.

finn wrote:In the past it's been that you had to have played a majority in the lower grade unless the higher grade is in the finals as well where players can slide.

If players play up and that side is knocked out of the finals, they can play down with a permit provided they have met the existing finals criteria ie played a majority of games in the lower side.

In the past 50 percent lower and fifty higher permits have been knocked back when the upper grade games have been the more recently played.

Here is an example: A player has played let's say 9 games in the B grade and 6 in the A Grade. So his ratio is more B grade played.
However, he played predominately A grade in the second half of the year to get those 6 games. Is he eligible to drop down back to the B grade in finals?