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Went to the Gepps Cross v Rostrevor game yesterday and was staggered to see a Gepps player (jed Fiorvanti I think it was) red carded and then allowed to return to the field 10 minutes later.

The incident was a relatively minor one (late to the contest) and was only really worthy of a 25/50m penalty and maybe a 10 min sit down but when the umpire sent him off he flashed the red card. Always thought that meant he was off for the rest of the game but as I said earlier he returned to the field 10 minutes later.

What is the definitive ruling?

Ps: Not complaining as I am a Gepps Cross supporter.

bloods08 wrote:Went to the Gepps Cross v Rostrevor game yesterday and was staggered to see a Gepps player (jed Fiorvanti I think it was) red carded and then allowed to return to the field 10 minutes later.

The incident was a relatively minor one (late to the contest) and was only really worthy of a 25/50m penalty and maybe a 10 min sit down but when the umpire sent him off he flashed the red card. Always thought that meant he was off for the rest of the game but as I said earlier he returned to the field 10 minutes later.

What is the definitive ruling?

Ps: Not complaining as I am a Gepps Cross supporter.

Not 100% sure but i believe its at the umpires discression.

Robran wrote:

bloods08 wrote:Went to the Gepps Cross v Rostrevor game yesterday and was staggered to see a Gepps player (jed Fiorvanti I think it was) red carded and then allowed to return to the field 10 minutes later.

The incident was a relatively minor one (late to the contest) and was only really worthy of a 25/50m penalty and maybe a 10 min sit down but when the umpire sent him off he flashed the red card. Always thought that meant he was off for the rest of the game but as I said earlier he returned to the field 10 minutes later.

What is the definitive ruling?

Ps: Not complaining as I am a Gepps Cross supporter.

Not 100% sure but i believe its at the umpires discression.

That's what I got told yesterday too but surely a red card should mean you are off for the rest of the game.

Jed? Seriously?

For a red card it's initally 10 mins but umpire has the ability to send the player off for any time he sees fit, including the remainder of the game.

Yes he does maybe the umpire was colour blind.

This got sent out to all the umpires in an email - from Peter Angel and Paul Montesi to the umpires on July 1st after a balls up the previous day. Should clear up any discussion.

REPORTABLE OFFENCES “RED CARD & “B” YELLOW CARD

CATEGORY “A” REPORTABLE OFFENCES - (Red Card)
• Any of the reportable offences shown in AFL Law 19.2.2 are considered a Category “A” offences
• The player shall be sent from the playing field for a minimum of ten (10) minutes playing time or greater up to the
maximum of the remainder of the match as determined by the reporting Field Umpire.The player may be replaced after 10 minutes playing time.(see SAAFL 46.2)
• STOP THE GAME ~ DISPLAY RED CARD
• The field umpire(s) shall escort the Category “A” offending player from the playing field immediately (or the field
umpire(s) may allow play to continue before effecting the send-off if the umpire believes this is an advantage to the
non-offending team) to the Interchange area & inform the interchange steward of the Category “A” offence.
• Any player who re-offends in the same match shall be sent from the field by the field umpire(s) for the remainder of
the match and cannot be replaced.
• If a player committing a Category “A” offence refuses to leave the playing field the field umpire(s) to the satisfaction
of the field umpire(s), then the field umpire(s) may report the offending player’s Member Club to the League.
• A Category “A” report shall be detailed by the field umpire(s) on The League’s Report By Umpire form in the usual manner
NOTE:- THE SAAFL has nominated certain Category “A” reportable offences as prescribed offences. Once offered by the umpire, a reported player may plead guilty and accept a 1 match ban (see SAAFL 45.9).

CATEGORY “B” ORDER OFF RULE (SAAFL Rule 47) (Yellow Card)
• A Category “B” offence is one where a minor misconduct is committed by a player which in the
opinion of a field umpire(s) does not warrant a Category “A” report and the player shall be sent from the playing field for 10 minutes playing time and may be immediately replaced.
• The declaration of a Category “B” offence shall only be made by a field umpire umpiring that particular match
• The field umpire(s) shall send the Category “B” offending from the playing field immediately or the field umpire may allow play to continue before effecting the send-off if the umpire believes this is an advantage to the non offending team.
• The field umpire(s) shall notify to the interchange Steward of the Category “B” offence by holding up a yellow card
• At the next quarter break the reporting field umpire shall inform the interchange Steward of the details of the Category “B” offence
• Any player who re-offends in the same match shall be sent from the playing field by the field umpire(s) for the remainder of the match and may be replaced after (10) ten minutes of playing time
• Any player who re-offends in the same match shall be suspended for one match,but may elect to appear before the Tribunal to have the matter heard.
• If a player committing a Category “B” offence refuses to leave the playing field to the satisfaction of the field
umpire(s) then the field umpire(s) may report the offending player for a category ‘A’ offence.
• The field umpire(s) at the conclusion of the match shall note on The League’s official form all players whom
committed a Category “B” offence. This is the only record Member Clubs shall receive of Category “B” offences.
• If you have a Category ‘’A” Report you must contact the SAAFL office (Kylie on 8443 8999) prior to 9 AM on Monday
• Tribunals are at 7pm Wednesday at SAAFL HQ at Thebarton Oval

Thanks Yardy.

Was a very soft incident so should get thrown out at the tribunal on wednesday.

Maybe you confused the card with his hair

Kind of disturbing to get copied in on umpires emails, and then have to perhaps think like they do. Thanks to all the umpires for sending them, but some of the material makes you wonder lol

Footy Chick wrote:Maybe you confused the card with his hair

Not much difference at all.

Yardy Lard wrote:This got sent out to all the umpires in an email - from Peter Angel and Paul Montesi to the umpires on July 1st after a balls up the previous day. Should clear up any discussion.

REPORTABLE OFFENCES “RED CARD & “B” YELLOW CARD

CATEGORY “A” REPORTABLE OFFENCES - (Red Card)
• Any of the reportable offences shown in AFL Law 19.2.2 are considered a Category “A” offences
• The player shall be sent from the playing field for a minimum of ten (10) minutes playing time or greater up to the
maximum of the remainder of the match as determined by the reporting Field Umpire.The player may be replaced after 10 minutes playing time.(see SAAFL 46.2)
• STOP THE GAME ~ DISPLAY RED CARD
• The field umpire(s) shall escort the Category “A” offending player from the playing field immediately (or the field
umpire(s) may allow play to continue before effecting the send-off if the umpire believes this is an advantage to the
non-offending team) to the Interchange area & inform the interchange steward of the Category “A” offence.
• Any player who re-offends in the same match shall be sent from the field by the field umpire(s) for the remainder of
the match and cannot be replaced.
• If a player committing a Category “A” offence refuses to leave the playing field the field umpire(s) to the satisfaction
of the field umpire(s), then the field umpire(s) may report the offending player’s Member Club to the League.
• A Category “A” report shall be detailed by the field umpire(s) on The League’s Report By Umpire form in the usual manner
NOTE:- THE SAAFL has nominated certain Category “A” reportable offences as prescribed offences. Once offered by the umpire, a reported player may plead guilty and accept a 1 match ban (see SAAFL 45.9).

CATEGORY “B” ORDER OFF RULE (SAAFL Rule 47) (Yellow Card)
• A Category “B” offence is one where a minor misconduct is committed by a player which in the
opinion of a field umpire(s) does not warrant a Category “A” report and the player shall be sent from the playing field for 10 minutes playing time and may be immediately replaced.
• The declaration of a Category “B” offence shall only be made by a field umpire umpiring that particular match
• The field umpire(s) shall send the Category “B” offending from the playing field immediately or the field umpire may allow play to continue before effecting the send-off if the umpire believes this is an advantage to the non offending team.
• The field umpire(s) shall notify to the interchange Steward of the Category “B” offence by holding up a yellow card
• At the next quarter break the reporting field umpire shall inform the interchange Steward of the details of the Category “B” offence
• Any player who re-offends in the same match shall be sent from the playing field by the field umpire(s) for the remainder of the match and may be replaced after (10) ten minutes of playing time
• Any player who re-offends in the same match shall be suspended for one match,but may elect to appear before the Tribunal to have the matter heard.
• If a player committing a Category “B” offence refuses to leave the playing field to the satisfaction of the field
umpire(s) then the field umpire(s) may report the offending player for a category ‘A’ offence.
• The field umpire(s) at the conclusion of the match shall note on The League’s official form all players whom
committed a Category “B” offence. This is the only record Member Clubs shall receive of Category “B” offences.
• If you have a Category ‘’A” Report you must contact the SAAFL office (Kylie on 8443 8999) prior to 9 AM on Monday
• Tribunals are at 7pm Wednesday at SAAFL HQ at Thebarton Oval

It appears the umpires have had some serious communication breakdowns all season. Maybe they should all get together and learn the laws of football firstly then have a go at the rules & regs of the SAAFL.
Embarrassing for someone to say the least

maybe a someone got in the umpires ear after the offence

My understanding of the rule is that the umpire is to advise the I/C steward if the player CAN go back on after 10 minutes. I am lead to believe this did not happen therefore the player was able to go back on and it was confirmed by not only the Gepps timekeeper/steward but also the ROCS t/keeper that this did not occur.No argument if the umpire failed to execute his duty correctly.