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Has there been a high number of serious incidents in the Amatuer league this year. Both on and off the field every Division thread from Saturday until Thursday seems to be taken up with stories of serious attacks on other players, officials, umpires, spectators etc etc.

While alot of the time the stories seem exaggerated there generally is always some truth to the inital story.

Is it time that off the ball attacks and serious assaults are taken further than just an amatuer league tribunal, rather police needing to get involved to stamp it out of the game.

I reckon its probably cos once upon a time they would have been swept under the carpet and/or stored in the memory bank for 'ron.

Mr Beefy wrote:I reckon its probably cos once upon a time they would have been swept under the carpet and/or stored in the memory bank for 'ron.

True but so far this year we have had

-allegedly a bloke who was banned for life getting a permit and then breaking a blokes jaw in two places
-all in brawl makes the news, ambulance required at game
-player throwing an object at an umpire
-junior headbutting an umpire
-huge brawl at game with parent involved apparently a knife is seen
-team/spectators been warned at half time about racist remarks towards oppostion

and thats just of the top of my head and from what i have read on here.

I find this kinda funny. We used to play teams like Wingfield Royals and Norwood Union and cops would be at the ground before the game started. I recall a bloke I played cricket with telling me that their CHB got bundled into a boot of a car at 3/4 time fearing retribution cos he smacked some Norwood Union guy and knocked him out. Norwood Union was the worst mob I played against. Then when they folded some of their players came and played with us!

One of my mates who played for Hope Valley stepped on a spent cartridge at Wingfield one day. But I can't recall of anything really bad happening there.

I think it's more 'profile' these days unfortunately. There are more ways to make it known something's happened. The only way we'd find out if something happened would be if one of our players was up in front of the tribunal. Which did happen more than once per season.

I think its no where as bad as it once was. The internet has helped bring people to justice for thuggish acts by making people more aware of incidents.

LaughingKookaburra wrote:I think its no where as bad as it once was. The internet has helped bring people to justice for thuggish acts by making people more aware of incidents.

Agreed, its just that more people on here know about the incidents.

I would bet that SAAFL players/supporters that do not use this site wouldnt have a clue about what is going on elsewhere in the league.

And in reality I think you can generally halve the magnitude of what most people say on here about the malice or intent of a player, which 99.9999999999999999% of the time is from an opposition player (there is always no malice from a player from their own club).

I remember in 1999 there were two players suspended for 10 years, and another suspended for life in the SAAFL. 1 bloke from Glandore got 10 years for stalking an umpire home... STALKING!!

When i first came through the C Grade as a 15 year old, big thugs from the opposition were licking thier collective lips at the thought of smashing me into next week, then when i started getting a few touches it didnt take long for the king hits to make an appearance, and that was in 2 out of every three games I played back then. It is in reality a rarity now.

When our C's played in Div 10 in the late 90's there is no way you would let U/18 play that grade as it was dangerous but now we have half a dozen playing every week in our Div 8 side without any concern

I think that there is probably less incidents but with the net we are just aware of them. But they are still happening. We ba all know the sides that go the knuckle and come out and say they are trying to change there image blah blah blah. But they will keep happening until the penilities are serious enough.

I guess my question is moreso in this day and age with the tough times financially alot of the world is going through, do you think belting someone behind play on a football field should bring stronger penalties including police involvement.

I only bring this up as a mate of mine was involved in an incident last year where he was elbowed behind play which resulted major face surgery and forced him out of work for a long period of time, his doing alright now but the incident has definatly taken a huge affect on him and his family. The oppostion was suspended for a long period BUT all he misses out on is a game of football. His an absolute jet of a bloke who would be the last person to belt someone on a footy field.

Recently another player has had been severly injury resulting in an long lay off from work etc etc.

Should there be a point where a football incident does become more than just being left on the park? Remember im talking about the king hit 100 metres behind play etc etc, not two people at a contest and accidental contact.

whufc wrote:I guess my question is moreso in this day and age with the tough times financially alot of the world is going through, do you think belting someone behind play on a football field should bring stronger penalties including police involvement.

I only bring this up as a mate of mine was involved in an incident last year where he was elbowed behind play which resulted major face surgery and forced him out of work for a long period of time, his doing alright now but the incident has definatly taken a huge affect on him and his family. The oppostion was suspended for a long period BUT all he misses out on is a game of football. His an absolute jet of a bloke who would be the last person to belt someone on a footy field.

Recently another player has had been severly injury resulting in an long lay off from work etc etc.

Should there be a point where a football incident does become more than just being left on the park?

No.

Jabber wrote:

whufc wrote:I guess my question is moreso in this day and age with the tough times financially alot of the world is going through, do you think belting someone behind play on a football field should bring stronger penalties including police involvement.

I only bring this up as a mate of mine was involved in an incident last year where he was elbowed behind play which resulted major face surgery and forced him out of work for a long period of time, his doing alright now but the incident has definatly taken a huge affect on him and his family. The oppostion was suspended for a long period BUT all he misses out on is a game of football. His an absolute jet of a bloke who would be the last person to belt someone on a footy field.

Recently another player has had been severly injury resulting in an long lay off from work etc etc.

Should there be a point where a football incident does become more than just being left on the park?

No.

Thanks for the anwer care to elaborate a tad.

In all seriousness im interested to hear why you think a bloke should be allowed to king hit another bloke 50-100 metres behind play and then face no other punishment than sitting a few games out which means they probably spend the day drinking and taking the piss from the sidelines.

whufc wrote:

Jabber wrote:

whufc wrote:I guess my question is moreso in this day and age with the tough times financially alot of the world is going through, do you think belting someone behind play on a football field should bring stronger penalties including police involvement.

I only bring this up as a mate of mine was involved in an incident last year where he was elbowed behind play which resulted major face surgery and forced him out of work for a long period of time, his doing alright now but the incident has definatly taken a huge affect on him and his family. The oppostion was suspended for a long period BUT all he misses out on is a game of football. His an absolute jet of a bloke who would be the last person to belt someone on a footy field.

Recently another player has had been severly injury resulting in an long lay off from work etc etc.

Should there be a point where a football incident does become more than just being left on the park?

No.

Thanks for the anwer care to elaborate a tad.

In all seriousness im interested to hear why you think a bloke should be allowed to king hit another bloke 50-100 metres behind play and then face no other punishment than sitting a few games out which means they probably spend the day drinking and taking the piss from the sidelines.

assault is assault and if serious should be taken to the police if a person wishes to take further action

Executive Member wrote:

whufc wrote:

Jabber wrote:

whufc wrote:I guess my question is moreso in this day and age with the tough times financially alot of the world is going through, do you think belting someone behind play on a football field should bring stronger penalties including police involvement.

I only bring this up as a mate of mine was involved in an incident last year where he was elbowed behind play which resulted major face surgery and forced him out of work for a long period of time, his doing alright now but the incident has definatly taken a huge affect on him and his family. The oppostion was suspended for a long period BUT all he misses out on is a game of football. His an absolute jet of a bloke who would be the last person to belt someone on a footy field.

Recently another player has had been severly injury resulting in an long lay off from work etc etc.

Should there be a point where a football incident does become more than just being left on the park?

No.

Thanks for the anwer care to elaborate a tad.

In all seriousness im interested to hear why you think a bloke should be allowed to king hit another bloke 50-100 metres behind play and then face no other punishment than sitting a few games out which means they probably spend the day drinking and taking the piss from the sidelines.

assault is assault and if serious should be taken to the police if a person wishes to take further action

The incident i spoke about the player attempted to, only to try and recoup some money for the loss of 6 months work he was facing, apparently he was told due to being on a football field there wasnt alot they could do due the fact every party would have witnesses saying the opposite thing etc etc there has to be an allowance for contact etc

I can understand other views on this but my personal view is that you have a judicial system within the SAAFL to deal with the offending player.

Unfortunately when you play sport you affectively sign on to the unexpected occuring on the field, like it or not.

When I was an owner/driver with my own truck the first thing I did when I wanted to play sport as well as work is went and got income insurance, because of the unexpected.

Put it this way, I know I would never EVER seek police assistance for an on field incident that involved me, but maybe thats just the way I operate, I don't know. The minute that incident crosses the white line (so to speak eg after the game, or in the car park, etc etc) then it is a different story.

Jabber wrote:I can understand other views on this but my personal view is that you have a judicial system within the SAAFL to deal with the offending player.

Unfortunately when you play sport you affectively sign on to the unexpected occuring on the field, like it or not.

When I was an owner/driver with my own truck the first thing I did when I wanted to play sport as well as work is went and got income insurance, because of the unexpected.

Put it this way, I know I would never EVER seek police assistance for an on field incident that involved me, but maybe thats just the way I operate, I don't know. The minute that incident crosses the white line (so to speak eg after the game, or in the car park, etc etc) then it is a different story.

So if a player has a weapon down there sock at start of game, then during game hits you with it, thats ok because it was on the field and you wouldnt take further action. YOU MUPPET

If I went to the cops every time Id been punched on the field, Id be down at Port CIB most Saturday evenings.

i read in the sunday mail that there was an incident in the seaton c2 game on the weekend, does anyone know what happened?

Cash 123 wrote:
So if a player has a weapon down there sock at start of game, then during game hits you with it, thats ok because it was on the field and you wouldnt take further action. YOU MUPPET

Ease up champ, you don't need to call someone a muppet because he has an opinion. Whats that all about?

And I didn't take into accound variables like a player taking a weapon onto the ground, has that happened?

I think if a weapon were used then yes I would most definately take that further.

But what I was getting at was that if an incident occured during a game that was just a past of a game, or the result of a fight, or a behind the play hit (things that you would normally expect when talking about this sort of stuff) then I would not take it further because its an unfortunate part of the game that comes with the game... unfortunately.

Calling someone a muppet for an opinion, why?

Cash 123 wrote:

Jabber wrote:I can understand other views on this but my personal view is that you have a judicial system within the SAAFL to deal with the offending player.

Unfortunately when you play sport you affectively sign on to the unexpected occuring on the field, like it or not.

When I was an owner/driver with my own truck the first thing I did when I wanted to play sport as well as work is went and got income insurance, because of the unexpected.

Put it this way, I know I would never EVER seek police assistance for an on field incident that involved me, but maybe thats just the way I operate, I don't know. The minute that incident crosses the white line (so to speak eg after the game, or in the car park, etc etc) then it is a different story.

So if a player has a weapon down there sock at start of game, then during game hits you with it, thats ok because it was on the field and you wouldnt take further action. YOU MUPPET

I think you could also put that in the category of "crossing the white line" which I explained also, as it is something out of the ordinary.

Jabber wrote:

Cash 123 wrote:

Jabber wrote:I can understand other views on this but my personal view is that you have a judicial system within the SAAFL to deal with the offending player.

Unfortunately when you play sport you affectively sign on to the unexpected occuring on the field, like it or not.

When I was an owner/driver with my own truck the first thing I did when I wanted to play sport as well as work is went and got income insurance, because of the unexpected.

Put it this way, I know I would never EVER seek police assistance for an on field incident that involved me, but maybe thats just the way I operate, I don't know. The minute that incident crosses the white line (so to speak eg after the game, or in the car park, etc etc) then it is a different story.

So if a player has a weapon down there sock at start of game, then during game hits you with it, thats ok because it was on the field and you wouldnt take further action. YOU MUPPET

I think you could also put that in the category of "crossing the white line" which I explained also, as it is something out of the ordinary.

It hasnt crossed the white line has it though it has happened on the field.