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disappointing to see 4 games decided by forfeits this week
i know even tho we said that we were going to have a full side it was never going to happen,were just hoping we could get as many their as possible
some clubs had the bare numbers
with this trend and with the amount of one sided games i hope this is not an indication of the rest of the season

Teams in the C grade divisions are going to struggle for the next month or so. University Exams are on and the institutions insist on programming exams on weekends and unless you are on your death bed there is no getting out of it. Combine that with mid season injury tolls most clubs are going to see a high turnover of players each week

Until the powers that be harden up and play C grades are based upon ability and not where there A grade lies we will have this problem of one sided results.

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Until the powers that be harden up and play C grades are based upon ability and not where there A grade lies we will have this problem of one sided results.

agreed - pretty hard to convince a bloke to come out and play footy to get thrashed every week - not every club can be blessed with depth all the way down to their C and D grades. This all started because a few clubs complained their bar take was down on some weeks because it happened there was no game at home - I've never seen a crowd at a C or D grade game that would make a difference to anybody's bar takings

Its just a shame that people that miss out every week at some clubs (that don't have a c grade) cant be called upon to fill holes in other C / D grade teams.

Ours was one of the C grades that didnt get a team out on the weekend, I hope it was just one of those perfect storm situations where a number of factors contributed to this occurring. I find it strange that one week we were leaving guys out of the C grade side and the next we couldnt even fill the side.

I do agree that it could be an idea to based sides on where they finished the year before as i know its difficult for guys to turn up knowing that they really probably dont stand a chance of winning and in some instances getting the ball into the forward 50.

No problems with Uni exams down the port mate Seriously taht sort of thing doesnt hit us in any way really. Sometimes (like this week for the next 4 weeks) i will be loosing a bloke to Army major exercises and thats about it. We have a different depth problem this year at our club. Our B grade is struggling again for the 2nd year in a row but my lads in the C's are sittign 4th looking at finals. Best the C grade at Portland has had. I dont envy some of you blokes on here who have those problems. All the best with it though, there would be nothing worse than training all week to find you side needs to pull the pin.

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Until the powers that be harden up and play C grades are based upon ability and not where there A grade lies we will have this problem of one sided results.

it must be remembered that the c grade being in similar divisions to a grade was introduced by clubs and clubs have the power to change it. it was canvassed before the start of this year and the majority of clubs wanted to stay with the current format.

That was our case on the weekend having to forfeit our d grade. As a club Though we had 55 players unavailable so to get 3 wins was a bloody good effort

dont know about the rest of the c grade teams but i know that so many clubs love their c grade yet it is always hard to get help
we are a single team and struggle big time
the local community all jumped on the band wagon when we were trying to get the club up and running again but then we were excepted,where did they go
at the moment and for most of the season have had no regular trainer(none on saturday)
no runner
no boundary umpire(use my interchange players)
no team manager
no regular goal umpire
have had to leave a player out of the team so we could have an umpire
me and my partner clean the club
the one award we have i buy
on top of all that the league now want to fine us because in my hurry i wrote a players name as mathew instead of micheal
i would have thought they have alot bigger issues than that
and we lost
you just have to love the c grade comp
its been the most enjoyable footy year i have had in along time

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Until the powers that be harden up and play C grades are based upon ability and not where there A grade lies we will have this problem of one sided results.

A C grade side's ability can change so much from one week to the next, let alone one year to the next!! A relegation/promotion system won't necessarily stop one sided results.

I can only speak for our club, but being aligned to the Division 5 sides in C5 has been the best thing that has happened to our C grade. We have become more a part of the club than ever before and have generated more interest, instead of just being the ugly sister that no one really cared about.

The triple headers have helped us enormously. It's been no surprise that at all of our stand alone games this year - Kenilworth, Trinity and North Haven, we have struggled for support staff. There are arguments for both sides, but I'm not sure how our C grade would go playing away from the A's and B's every single week and how long it could be sustained. I know trying to find help every single week would certainly grow thin very quickly...

dee man wrote:dont know about the rest of the c grade teams but i know that so many clubs love their c grade yet it is always hard to get help
we are a single team and struggle big time
the local community all jumped on the band wagon when we were trying to get the club up and running again but then we were excepted,where did they go
at the moment and for most of the season have had no regular trainer(none on saturday)
no runner
no boundary umpire(use my interchange players)
no team manager
no regular goal umpire
have had to leave a player out of the team so we could have an umpire
me and my partner clean the club
the one award we have i buy
on top of all that the league now want to fine us because in my hurry i wrote a players name as mathew instead of micheal
i would have thought they have alot bigger issues than that
and we lost
you just have to love the c grade comp
its been the most enjoyable footy year i have had in along time

Different grade but I coach the 18's for my club and it can be hard to get help some weeks.
Every sunday morning is spent trying to chase players, then finding someone to run for us. Followed by finding 2 more people to do the interchange and scoreboard once im at the club.

I know its hard Dee man, but really need to look to some of your players, wives, brothers, girlfriends etc for the help. maybe get a missus to do a strapping course that way you have a trainer?? little brothers for the boundary. I know its hard but you need to keep working. Good luck

dee man wrote:dont know about the rest of the c grade teams but i know that so many clubs love their c grade yet it is always hard to get help
we are a single team and struggle big time
the local community all jumped on the band wagon when we were trying to get the club up and running again but then we were excepted,where did they go
at the moment and for most of the season have had no regular trainer(none on saturday)
no runner
no boundary umpire(use my interchange players)
no team manager
no regular goal umpire
have had to leave a player out of the team so we could have an umpire
me and my partner clean the club
the one award we have i buy
on top of all that the league now want to fine us because in my hurry i wrote a players name as mathew instead of micheal
i would have thought they have alot bigger issues than that
and we lost
you just have to love the c grade comp
its been the most enjoyable footy year i have had in along time

Don't worry deeman, it's the same at most clubs incl PAOC, and we have 4 teams! Every week we struggle filling off field roles and I actually prefer away games as there is less work to do by the few that bother to lift a finger.

finn wrote:

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Until the powers that be harden up and play C grades are based upon ability and not where there A grade lies we will have this problem of one sided results.

it must be remembered that the c grade being in similar divisions to a grade was introduced by clubs and clubs have the power to change it. it was canvassed before the start of this year and the majority of clubs wanted to stay with the current format.

What was canvassed was "triple headers", not whether C Grade sides would be graded according to talent if my memory serves me correctly. Very ambiguous the way it was addressed, and consequently voted upon.

We were told that it was the best way to do the program so everyone could get a home game each week then the idea of triple headers was pushed.

Put it this way, I stopped playing because I was only a C Grader and I couldnt watch the A Grade, at one stage I even played for a Southern League Club because their C Grade played on Sundays. Now that the majority of C Grade games for our Club are triple headers I'm back trying to get a kick again.

If it got changed back to non triple headers then I'd probably retire again (for the 34th time).

I don't know how you can grade a C Grade on ability level anyway, especially when the side can look so different from week to week. EG we were sitting third and had to forfiet on the weekend (and would have been playing against the bottom side) because of 20 injuries/changes throughout the club in 1 week.

Jabber wrote:Put it this way, I stopped playing because I was only a C Grader and I couldnt watch the A Grade, at one stage I even played for a Southern League Club because their C Grade played on Sundays. Now that the majority of C Grade games for our Club are triple headers I'm back trying to get a kick again.

If it got changed back to non triple headers then I'd probably retire again (for the 34th time).

I don't know how you can grade a C Grade on ability level anyway, especially when the side can look so different from week to week. EG we were sitting third and had to forfiet on the weekend (and would have been playing against the bottom side) because of 20 injuries/changes throughout the club in 1 week.

We have had 5 triple headers this year. I think they are fantastic for both clubs. As ive said on here and other threads before it raises desperately needed revenue for some clubs and gives the others a week off, as their volunteers get a breather and can actually support their clubs. I will say though taht last night at training i was going through this and the only club that does not have a D grade in C3 is Pembroke. They didnt want to know about triple headers which is rediculous. Smosh have a D garde and the first time for a while we had triples with them this year. C garde footballers (i coach our C grade) either work or have family commitments and early games on staurdays make it possible for most clubs to fill a side. Ive even asked opposition clubs to play the 2;15 games for us at 12:15 so we can go support our A grade. No one has come to the party for that. I agree that most sides should not be ranked on ability and put into different grades. Some sides would be smacked every week becausde the league has different ideas on their ability etc. If that club has extra grades like D grades etc the higher should be the benefit of the skills. Not just stack your D grade side so you can dominate in a lower division.

ts a shame that 1 of the C grade teams forfeited this week instead of play because they were to start with 16 players until 5 B graders turn up after the start
players wanted to play but coach said no and preferred to go watch the A grade
would suggest this is the last year of their C grade which is a shame
sure the club still wants all their fees even tho this is the second time it has happened

I assume your talking about Pt Districts as I know you work with a few of the lads, if that's what happened on Saturday then I think the coach will have to answer to the committee as $500 for a forfeit would not sit too well if 16 were available and a few on their way for the 2nd half. If you can raise the bare minimum of players required for a contest then you should play, saying that though I have never coached so commenting from inexperience.

There are nearly always players willing to play 2 games so their mates get a run, i know i would if asked and did just this last year.....interesting decision by the coach to play someone on the ball in what was my 8th quarter of football for the day but i honestly had a great time and really enjoyed running around with guys who were out there enjoying their football.