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Just a quick question for you guys on here in the know-

Whats the average standard if blokes playing reserves in D1-3 compared to say a Div 4 players "Average". Yes we all know there are some guns playing in the lower levels, so please dont get into that side of things, just the standard of most players.

With the Points system as it currently stands, Reserve Div 1-3 are 0 points compared to A Graders in Div 4 who attract 2 points. Is this an accurate portrail of the ability of most guys?

i guess looking at the eastern park lads who have gone to brahma would be a fair guide i suppose

for what its worth i think its about right.

carey wrote:for what its worth i think its about right.

So your saying Div4 side would be stronger then a Div1 reserves side?

whufc wrote:i guess looking at the eastern park lads who have gone to brahma would be a fair guide i suppose

EPs B res we average though.

Henley, Goodies, SHOC reserves sides would beat div 4 side IMO

Goldberg wrote:

carey wrote:for what its worth i think its about right.

So your saying Div4 side would be stronger then a Div1 reserves side?

Yep.

Goldberg wrote:

carey wrote:for what its worth i think its about right.

So your saying Div4 side would be stronger then a Div1 reserves side?

i would say YES but its an opinion thing i guess. also depends on the strength of each side i mean in terms of ladder position.

i.e top side in div1r against the bottom side in div4 well you get where i'm going with this.

carey wrote:

Goldberg wrote:

carey wrote:for what its worth i think its about right.

So your saying Div4 side would be stronger then a Div1 reserves side?

i would say YES but its an opinion thing i guess. also depends on the strength of each side i mean in terms of ladder position.

i.e top side in div1r against the bottom side in div4 well you get where i'm going with this.

As part of a Div 4 club, I would be very confident walking out onto the park to play a D1R side.

Quichey wrote:

Goldberg wrote:

carey wrote:for what its worth i think its about right.

So your saying Div4 side would be stronger then a Div1 reserves side?

Yep.

Not convinced. We had a guy leave our club (div 3) to play A grade at a newly promoted div 5 club, which i'm told he will be doing. He was battling to make our B grade!

I'd say Henley's entire B grade would walk into any div 4 or 5 A Grade side!

Goldberg wrote:

carey wrote:for what its worth i think its about right.

So your saying Div4 side would be stronger then a Div1 reserves side?

Oh FAAAAAAAARK

Not this ol' chestnut

Next year (unless someone wants to do it this year) I'm going to put the call out to a D1R side to take on a div 4 or 5 side in a trial.

That'll solve this stupid argument once and for all

turbo182 wrote:

Quichey wrote:

Goldberg wrote:

carey wrote:for what its worth i think its about right.

So your saying Div4 side would be stronger then a Div1 reserves side?

Yep.

Not convinced. We had a guy leave our club (div 3) to play A grade at a newly promoted div 5 club, which i'm told he will be doing. He was battling to make our B grade!

I'd say Henley's entire B grade would walk into any div 4 or 5 A Grade side!

battling is nice way of putting it. played 2 d grade games and did not get a kick

Footy Chick wrote:

Goldberg wrote:

carey wrote:for what its worth i think its about right.

So your saying Div4 side would be stronger then a Div1 reserves side?

Oh FAAAAAAAARK

Not this ol' chestnut

Next year (unless someone wants to do it this year) I'm going to put the call out to a D1R side to take on a div 4 or 5 side in a trial.

That'll solve this stupid argument once and for all

well it wont really, as you cant take anything out of a trial result!

i just think this is an question that doesnt really have an answer its more of an opinion thing

Alot of the Jets younger lads are mates with those at Goody Saints who play D1R and we have this debate a fair bit. Unley came 4th in D4 last year and Goodys D1R played finals, not sure where they finished. Would be a real good game, probably give the edge to Goodies just...maybe, more or less on par I think.

I dont think his question was who would win in a game against the two moreso is the points system weighed correctly.

Goldberg wrote:Just a quick question for you guys on here in the know-

Whats the average standard if blokes playing reserves in D1-3 compared to say a Div 4 players "Average". Yes we all know there are some guns playing in the lower levels, so please dont get into that side of things, just the standard of most players.

With the Points system as it currently stands, Reserve Div 1-3 are 0 points compared to A Graders in Div 4 who attract 2 points. Is this an accurate portrail of the ability of most guys?

Interesting debate, it has been rightly pointed out that this topic has been around for awhile but the points system definately puts another spin on it.
Regardless of who would win or otherwise the split opinions here show that in most cases the groups would be reasonably even depending on the strength of the clubs at any given point in time. ( IMO PAOC's a grade over the last few years would have comfortably beaten most div 1 reserves sides)
If the sides are relatively comparable you would be much better off picking up a div 1 reserves player to play div 4 for you than a div 4 player from a diffent club IMO. Cost you 0 points compered to 2 to start with !

It's like asking who would win a fight between superman and mighty mouse

Fc that depends where they fight ??? If is was near say a deposit of Kryptonite well then its a monty that the Mouse wins.

I am going back some years now but when i was playing div 1 res for Kilburn we would have been beaten fairly well by most div 4 clubs, but we were ordinary, i played in alot of losing games out there.

I was playing at the time when Goodies won about 4 or so flags on the trot in the B grade, that side would have beaten anyone in div 4 no problems. They would have pushed a few div 1 sides. It would deffinately depend on the position the club is in at the time. Take Broadview, they used to have a great B grade side in div 1 and like Goodies would fair well against ,pst div 4 sides, but now would probably struggle against the top clubs in that div.

Footy Chick wrote:It's like asking who would win a fight between superman and mighty mouse

Hi FC, this was a question reguarding points allocation more the "Who would beat who", from a country side point of view it seems a lot more of the "filler" type players are coming from the reserves of the higher grades, and was wondering what peoples opinions where to the fairness of the allocation

That is all

carey wrote:for what its worth i think its about right.

I agree with Carey it's about right.