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Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:55 am
by piccachu
Not sure if this topic has been touched on yet but i was in discussion with an official from our football club last night and he informed me that the SAAFL will be introducing the import rule that is currently being used in country leagues, does anyone know much about this rule and what goes on with it?

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:58 am
by Iron Fist
piccachu wrote:Not sure if this topic has been touched on yet but i was in discussion with an official from our football club last night and he informed me that the SAAFL will be introducing the import rule that is currently being used in country leagues, does anyone know much about this rule and what goes on with it?


I believe it was being trialed this season??

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:59 am
by Executive Member
piccachu wrote:Not sure if this topic has been touched on yet but i was in discussion with an official from our football club last night and he informed me that the SAAFL will be introducing the import rule that is currently being used in country leagues, does anyone know much about this rule and what goes on with it?


first I have heard of it
so would have to say NO

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:01 pm
by Executive Member
Iron Fist wrote:
piccachu wrote:Not sure if this topic has been touched on yet but i was in discussion with an official from our football club last night and he informed me that the SAAFL will be introducing the import rule that is currently being used in country leagues, does anyone know much about this rule and what goes on with it?


I believe it was being trialed this season??


We are doing the points system - the import rule is different

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:07 pm
by The Ash Man
Executive Member wrote:
Iron Fist wrote:
piccachu wrote:Not sure if this topic has been touched on yet but i was in discussion with an official from our football club last night and he informed me that the SAAFL will be introducing the import rule that is currently being used in country leagues, does anyone know much about this rule and what goes on with it?


I believe it was being trialed this season??


We are doing the points system - the import rule is different


So each import is worth points......

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:11 pm
by Iron Fist
The Ash Man wrote:
Executive Member wrote:
Iron Fist wrote:
piccachu wrote:Not sure if this topic has been touched on yet but i was in discussion with an official from our football club last night and he informed me that the SAAFL will be introducing the import rule that is currently being used in country leagues, does anyone know much about this rule and what goes on with it?


I believe it was being trialed this season??


We are doing the points system - the import rule is different


So each import is worth points......


thank you ash man

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:12 pm
by Executive Member
The Ash Man wrote:
Executive Member wrote:
Iron Fist wrote:
piccachu wrote:Not sure if this topic has been touched on yet but i was in discussion with an official from our football club last night and he informed me that the SAAFL will be introducing the import rule that is currently being used in country leagues, does anyone know much about this rule and what goes on with it?


I believe it was being trialed this season??


We are doing the points system - the import rule is different


So each import is worth points......


the points system is only if they played a majority A Grade games the previous year and each league has different points associated with it
The import rule is based on where you live

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:26 pm
by piccachu
i can just tell already this is going to get messy i was told if you had played more than 3 games in the A grade you were worth 3 points if another club was to get you and Ex league players worth 5 points or something along those lines.
If it is true and the Rule is going to be in place they (head office) have to start making it common knowledge as some clubs (non finalist would be starting there recruiting drives with in a couple of weeks, i think this is going to get messy

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:35 pm
by Trader
Sorry to ask a silly question but I have no idea what any of this means.
Players are worth points depending on games played, so then what? Is there a limit on how many points you can recruit in an off season or something? And if there is, what's the limit?
Anyone care to explain it from start to finish for someone who has never heard of it? That or post a link to where I can find out about it?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:37 pm
by piccachu
from what i have been told the max points a club can recruit is 15 i know bugger all though, hence why i was asking on here

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:46 pm
by Mr Beefy
There is a maximum number of points that you can field in your a grade for any particular match.
None of this is set in stone yet.
the basics are here

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:16 pm
by Top End
Mr Beefy wrote:There is a maximum number of points that you can field in your a grade for any particular match.
None of this is set in stone yet.
the basics are here



The Community Football Board wanted it this year in the Amateur League. The Delegates of the Clubs essentially told the SAAFL (Executive) to tell the Community Football Board to shove it where the sun does not shine. And that is where it lies and that is where it should stay IMO.
Moves are a foot though from Stalag Thebarton to try and introduce this ASAP is my understanding. Generally what they want, they get, no question. Clubs should again say NO, we told you once to go away and this is not wanted, unless the Clubs change their minds, but we shall see. Essentially it is the Clubs who run the League and should be telling the CFB and Amateur League what they want.

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:34 pm
by FOURTH ESTATE
Post season a committee of SAAFL Club Delegates will be reviewing the points system and making recommendations to the SAAFL Executives on the pros and cons of this plan. The Committee has already been selected

Until the final decision is made it will be a 3yr trial with a review after each season.

This was voted on at the February Delelgates meeting and the committee selected at the June/July Meeting from memory

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:40 pm
by aceman
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Post season a committee of SAAFL Club Delegates will be reviewing the points system and making recommendations to the SAAFL Executives on the pros and cons of this plan. The Committee has already been selected

Until the final decision is made it will be a 3yr trial with a review after each season.

This was voted on at the February Delelgates meeting and the committee selected at the June/July Meeting from memory



FE, who is on the committee?

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:38 pm
by bird of prey
I belive that this works in the country leagues, but in the amateurs it has its bad points.
lets say for example a side finishes in the top 2 in div 2, then has to go up the following year. in order to be competitive the club would have to pick up 5 quality players to what they already have. Then if a couple of players decide to move on ore retire, they would have to get more recruits again. but then this would exceed the max points allowed to be used for recruits. the newly promoted club would then struggle to be competitive, and could pretty much rule themselves out of contention for a flag.
in country leagues, teams dont get promoted or relegated, so this would not affect them as much.
the system needs to be looked at a bit more maybe. just my opinion though.

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:59 pm
by true colors
why do we need rules like this it only hurts the team that gets promoted to the hire grade. so why does the league want it????? no one dominates any one grade so why change.

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:59 pm
by Clever Dick
[quote="true colors"]why do we need rules like this it only hurts the team that gets promoted to the hire grade.[b] so why does the league want it?????


coz Big Brother says so!

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:35 am
by LaughingKookaburra
Think it could work if the higher the division you play, then the higher amount of points you are allocated. For instance Div 6=13 points,Div 5=15, Div 4=17 ect. There would then still be the step up each division.....

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:18 am
by Old Dog New Tricks
The only way this can work will be for the first time all leagues, yours, mine and others band together and say no one wants it otherwise it's just going to create added animosity between leagues.

F**k it off once and for all and let us all get on with running our club and leagues and fighting for supremacy rather than operating under a sanitised blanket.

Re: Import Rule

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:44 am
by pureclass
bird of prey wrote:I belive that this works in the country leagues, but in the amateurs it has its bad points.
lets say for example a side finishes in the top 2 in div 2, then has to go up the following year. in order to be competitive the club would have to pick up 5 quality players to what they already have. Then if a couple of players decide to move on ore retire, they would have to get more recruits again. but then this would exceed the max points allowed to be used for recruits. the newly promoted club would then struggle to be competitive, and could pretty much rule themselves out of contention for a flag.
in country leagues, teams dont get promoted or relegated, so this would not affect them as much.
the system needs to be looked at a bit more maybe. just my opinion though.


Well said BOP
I totally agree that it would need to be looked at very hard before they implemented such a rule change.
I think in the Barossa league the import rul is capped on how many players a team can recruit every year depending on ladder positions.
So finish bottom you are allowed to recruit more imports and finish top and you are allowed to recruit the bare minimum.
But they also have a locals rule, where if you live in the town and are new to the club then you are not classed as an import but as a local.
An if you are an import and play 'x' amount of games over a certain amount of years (might be 2) you are no longer classed as an import.