Ovingham Farce

[FOURTH ESTATE]

Just received a phone advising that Ovingham are forfeiting todays game.

What a joke!!!! The league has to show some balls now and tell them it is over.
Not fair to the rest of the competition for some sides to rack up a cricket score and others not. This will go a long way to deciding finals spots and percentage.

IT MUST END NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[locky801]

Just received a phone advising that Ovingham are forfeiting todays game.

What a joke!!!! The league has to show some balls now and tell them it is over.
Not fair to the rest of the competition for some sides to rack up a cricket score and others not. This will go a long way to deciding finals spots and percentage.

IT MUST END NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately have to agree, the SAAFL has to now make a stand and say enough is enough, they also should cancel all scores for and against in the 2 or 3 weeks they played, as said, some sides have picked up huge percentage in the last few weeks which yes may have a huge say in finals positions. would love to see Ovingham survive but surely lets call it quits for this year in fairness of all other clubs in that Div

[Footy Chick]

or enforce the mercy rule on the games they have played...

but I also agree, as much as it's sad to see a club go, after how hard they fought to stay afloat last year - enough is enough.

[Blacks130]

or enforce the mercy rule on the games they have played

Ovingaham's place in the competition aside, a mercy rule, FC - what, where and who introduced the "mercy rule"? and while you're qualifying the answers for the first three questions, where's the precedent ever been set for such?

[Footy Chick]

Settle down blacks, it was just a thought to keep all and sundry happy.


If you don't know what the mercy rule is Blacks, perhaps go and read the rules of junior footy...

[aceman]

or enforce the mercy rule on the games they have played...

but I also agree, as much as it's sad to see a club go, after how hard they fought to stay afloat last year - enough is enough.

Unfortunately I must agree FC, leaving all emotions in the cupboard firstly, it's not fair that other clubs are unsure each week if they will or won't be playing.
A valiant fight appears to have come to a sad end.

[Footy Chick]

Hello!

Did you lot not read the last sentence of my first post!

[Punk Rooster]

would there be any merit in "evening up the competition", by restricting clubs to 3 sides- A, & C grade?
this would potentially help struggling clubs like Ovingham, yet curb affluent clubs like Adelaide Uni..
This may also allow the league to structure-
Div 1- A & B grade
C1- C grade
right down through to Div 7/C7.

What do people think of the concept- would work better than a salary cap.

[Ian]

would there be any merit in "evening up the competition", by restricting clubs to 3 sides- A, & C grade?
this would potentially help struggling clubs like Ovingham, yet curb affluent clubs like Adelaide Uni..
This may also allow the league to structure-
Div 1- A & B grade
C1- C grade
right down through to Div 7/C7.

What do people think of the concept- would work better than a salary cap.

In theory it is a good idea, the biggest obstacle is a lot of those lower grade players have come through the juniors at their respective clubs, will never be good enough to play A's or B's where they are but just want to play for their club, not another one.
In reality a lot of players would be lost to footy and some teams would still struggle to field a side.

[Blacks130]

would there be any merit in "evening up the competition", by restricting clubs to 3 sides- A, & C grade?
this would potentially help struggling clubs like Ovingham, yet curb affluent clubs like Adelaide Uni..
This may also allow the league to structure-
Div 1- A & B grade
C1- C grade
right down through to Div 7/C7.

What do people think of the concept- would work better than a salary cap.

What do you want to 'even the competition" up for. Whatever happened to survival of the fittest and all that hoohaha? Are we becoming that weak as a society that we need to keep initiatives from moving ahead so we can keep those in the race that can't keep up.

Punk, what does affluence have to do with the quanity of teams in a club and especially a club that doesn't pay players to play.

[Punk Rooster]

well Blacks, football has become a socialist competition at the highest level, when it's probably needed more at a grass roots level.
It's just an idea thrown up- I'm not on the executive Committee or anything, but wonder what good it is for football to have a side like Uni, with 10 or so + teams, yet a club like Ovingham is on the brink of folding.
This is not an anti-Blacks campaign, but I do wonder what can be done to save the smaller clubs.

& I'd rather see survival of the fittest at the highest level, not the lowest.

[Blacks130]

well Blacks, football has become a socialist competition at the highest level, when it's probably needed more at a grass roots level.
It's just an idea thrown up- I'm not on the executive Committee or anything, but wonder what good it is for football to have a side like Uni, with 10 or so + teams, yet a club like Ovingham is on the brink of folding.
This is not an anti-Blacks campaign, but I do wonder what can be done to save the smaller clubs.

& I'd rather see survival of the fittest at the highest level, not the lowest.

I didn't take it as an anti-blacks slap but let's just say the AUFC & Fitzroy both sacrificed a team each and sent them over to Ovingham to play footy. The real question is would that solve their long term problems. The question that needs to be asked and answered before handicapping the system is why can't they attract and retain players/members?.

I agree with you on the open market at the highest level but then some would say what is the interest of the EPL when MUFC or CFC are a sure thing to win it every year and the rest just play to win spots in the European cup competition

[sheeds]

yeh that would work Punk - I can just see all the leftover Uni, PAC & SPOC boys driving off down to Ovingham for a game of footy. Somehow I think these players play at their respective clubs because they WANT to - like everybody else plays at their respective clubs for the same reason. If there are not enough players who WANT to play for a club it folds. Sad, but simple.
The real fact is - is in points of the compass there are too many teams - like Western Suburbs - Portland, Smosh/West Lakes, Rosewater, West Croydon, North Haven, Port Districts, Woodville South - these days, for lots of reasons,(the change in society being the main reason) there just aren't enough players to fill all the teams at all the clubs and maybe the only way for some to become powerful again is to merge a few clubs. No-one likes doing it - but it is probably the only way out for many teams.

[Blacks130]

yeh that would work Punk - I can just see all the leftover Uni, PAC & SPOC boys driving off down to Ovingham for a game of footy. Somehow I think these players play at their respective clubs because they WANT to - like everybody else plays at their respective clubs for the same reason. If there are not enough players who WANT to play for a club it folds. Sad, but simple.
The real fact is - is in points of the compass there are too many teams - like Western Suburbs - Portland, Smosh/West Lakes, Rosewater, West Croydon, North Haven, Port Districts, Woodville South - these days, for lots of reasons,(the change in society being the main reason) there just aren't enough players to fill all the teams at all the clubs and maybe the only way for some to become powerful again is to merge a few clubs. No-one likes doing it - but it is probably the only way out for many teams.

Well said

[Jimmy_041]

The clubs down at the Port had to bite the bullet - now its in the inner North's turn

Too many clubs for the demographics plus if some of the stories Ive heard about Ovingham are true - I want my $100 back and goodbye. But then again - they were Club of the Year 2 years ago Shows what a farce that was

As for the comment about restricting Uni - if any club has a good admin and people want to play for them, then they are entitled to field as many sides as they want. Ridiculous idea

[Punk Rooster]

As for the comment about restricting Uni - if any club has a good admin and people want to play for them, then they are entitled to field as many sides as they want. Ridiculous idea

the league might embrace it then

[Bluedemon]

if they call quits on ovvies now, what the saafl can do is go back and adjust the scores with the games that were played and give everyone a 10 goal win which is normal for a forfeit game.

[Jimmy_041]

As for the comment about restricting Uni - if any club has a good admin and people want to play for them, then they are entitled to field as many sides as they want. Ridiculous idea

the league might embrace it then

Your thoughts are always profound, incisive and correct PR

[heater31]

well Blacks, football has become a socialist competition at the highest level, when it's probably needed more at a grass roots level.
It's just an idea thrown up- I'm not on the executive Committee or anything, but wonder what good it is for football to have a side like Uni, with 10 or so + teams, yet a club like Ovingham is on the brink of folding.
This is not an anti-Blacks campaign, but I do wonder what can be done to save the smaller clubs.

& I'd rather see survival of the fittest at the highest level, not the lowest.

I didn't take it as an anti-blacks slap but let's just say the AUFC & Fitzroy both sacrificed a team each and sent them over to Ovingham to play footy. The real question is would that solve their long term problems. The question that needs to be asked and answered before handicapping the system is why can't they attract and retain players/members?.

Easy way around it blacks just split the club in two a la Melbourne University.....

[FOURTH ESTATE]

if they call quits on ovvies now, what the saafl can do is go back and adjust the scores with the games that were played and give everyone a 10 goal win which is normal for a forfeit game.

This is the most sensible thing to do. Just look at the Premiership table as it stands and two clubs have benefited from the only 2 games Ovingham have played and the first one they only fielded 14 players and failed to score 32.21 - 0.0 if I am correct.

Time to admit that it is over!!!!