SAAFL Division 4 & D4R (2012)

[beef]

Is the Rick you're referring to Woodrow.???

Yes. Not sure of what happened but he is not happy with respect being given to him.

[Tony Clifton]

seems a bit too much undisciplined thuggery going on over the last few weeks in amateur league. Thought clubs were getting better at understanding the consequenses (both legally & club) but have heard or read of at least 4 major incidents already this year. While clubs have a duty of care to take action against their players the League can't keep putting its head in the sand and say "reports are down" because it is common knowledge that paid umpires, let alone Club umpires, won't to go to a Tribunal. Footy has changed and while Amateur & country footy is grassroots and we all enjoy the contact, thuggery isn't acceptable anymore. And the damage done to the Scotch boy on Saturday should have consequenses.

that hit the nail on the head.....who really goes out on a saturday to play football to be put in hospital by a punch or a kick......the umpire's should have a duty of care to protect all players from this and yes the problem is getting an umpire to report and turn up wednesday or thursday night to testify

How about this for a solution - if an investigation is brought before the league shouldn't also the umpires be investigated as to why they chose not to take action.

Umpires might be more inclined to make the trip to Thebarton if they know they are going to be hauled over the coals for sticking their head in the sand.

Not the umpires' fault in my opinion. It shouldn't be up to them to stamp out thuggery. They are usually club volunteers or guys running around to do a thankless task for a few dollars. We're asking them to analyse exactly was transpires in what are often split second incidents with witnesses rarely agreeing on what actually happened.

The clubs are the enablers. They are the ones who are responsible.

Every club has players on their list who they know are hot heads, undisciplined, have white line fever, massive tempers, whack blokes occasionally and/or have a history of reports. Their clubs turn a blind eye to this, happy to keep playing them because they might be ok at footy or the club needs the numbers. Or the club secretly likes the 'intimidation factor' these players bring though would never say as much. Often they will even make excuses for them - "there was nothing in it" "fair bump" "the damage must have happened when his head hit the ground" etc.

If clubs truly want thuggery to be removed from the league then as a starting point they must stop picking dirty players.

[Demon Juke]

Had a very good side last year and have added some talent to it. I no they have lost a few players as well but T.Creek is a gun and would be close to one of the best players in this grade.

T. Creek a gun? Serious? Must be playing a hell of a lot better than he did at Wallaroo in YPFL. Perhaps the less travelling and no doubt the once in a lifetime chance to return to the SAAFL has allowed him to concentrate on footy.[/quote]
Would be a better import than a couple that Wallaroo have this year,[/quote]
Would have to agree with that Demon Juke.[/quote]
Better then Nathan Wright? haha I've heard it all now![/quote
Did i mention there names and they do have more than 1 import.

[Noel Craig]

Had a very good side last year and have added some talent to it. I no they have lost a few players as well but T.Creek is a gun and would be close to one of the best players in this grade.

T. Creek a gun? Serious? Must be playing a hell of a lot better than he did at Wallaroo in YPFL. Perhaps the less travelling and no doubt the once in a lifetime chance to return to the SAAFL has allowed him to concentrate on footy.

Would be a better import than a couple that Wallaroo have this year,[/quote]
Would have to agree with that Demon Juke.[/quote]
Better then Nathan Wright? haha I've heard it all now![/quote
Did i mention there names and they do have more than 1 import. [/quote]

My bad

[turbo182]

So there's no illusions:

Tyson CREEK Salisbury West 4 Striking Wed 30 May 2012 7pm n/a - via Investigation

You don't forget him once you've played on him. We'll see what happens with the outcome.

[Lightning McQueen]

So there's no illusions:

Tyson CREEK Salisbury West 4 Striking Wed 30 May 2012 7pm n/a - via Investigation

You don't forget him once you've played on him. We'll see what happens with the outcome.

Operative word.

[Johno6]

people actually get suspended in amatuer league?

i thought this was a myth.....

[Lightning McQueen]

Umpire talk has it's own thread now.

[superboot7]

If true bout Woodrow, it's bad form by Westies, I'd beg, steal and borrow to get a bloke like that a club. Great knowledge of the game and gives a hell of a lot of confidence to a side!

[Lightning McQueen]

If true bout Woodrow, it's bad form by Westies, I'd beg, steal and borrow to get a bloke like that a club. Great knowledge of the game and gives a hell of a lot of confidence to a side!

I have no doubt Rick would be a tremendous asset to any club, however, him and Gary are completely different people and would probably have two completely different coaching styles and that doesn't work sometimes.
I'm sure Rick would be better suited at having the main role, you can't knock Gary's results with the exceptionally young squad that he has, after watching them in round 1 I didn't think they'd be much chop, mid-range at best...................I've been proven wrong so far.

[superboot7]

They moved the ball very well last year too. Anyone care to explain how they are moving the ball this year or is it similar to last year

[Robran]

Anyone heard how tyson creek went at tribunal...

[Footy Chick]

adjourned to next week.

[Caramels]

Had a very good side last year and have added some talent to it. I no they have lost a few players as well but T.Creek is a gun and would be close to one of the best players in this grade.

T. Creek a gun? Serious? Must be playing a hell of a lot better than he did at Wallaroo in YPFL. Perhaps the less travelling and no doubt the once in a lifetime chance to return to the SAAFL has allowed him to concentrate on footy.

Would be a better import than a couple that Wallaroo have this year,[/quote]
Would have to agree with that Demon Juke.[/quote]
Better then Nathan Wright? haha I've heard it all now![/quote
Did i mention there names and they do have more than 1 import. [/quote]


Seems like he's off to Thebarton tonight for a meeting
Tyson CREEK Salisbury West 4 Striking Wed 30 May 2012 7pm n/a - via Investigation

[Lightning McQueen]

Seems like he's off to Thebarton tonight for a meeting
Tyson CREEK Salisbury West 4 Striking Wed 30 May 2012 7pm n/a - via Investigation

Today's Thursday.

[Caramels]

Seems like he's off to Thebarton tonight for a meeting
Tyson CREEK Salisbury West 4 Striking Wed 30 May 2012 7pm n/a - via Investigation

Today's Thursday.

Might be where you are, still Wednesday in my time zone!

[Footy Chick]

Every day is Wednesday when you're retired

[Jimmy_041]

As the Dowager Countess asked on Downton Abbey "what is a weekend?"

[FOURTH ESTATE]

Tribunal Division 4: Tyson Creek Salisbury West – striking charge on Douglas Wright (broken jaw) Scotch OC (Wednesday 30/5/12 7.00pm to 9.55pm).

The Tribunal has heard evidence and received submissions in respect of the charge of striking Salisbury West player Tyson Creek on Scotch OC player Douglas Wright.

After hearing evidence and submissions the Tribunal have ruled that there is a case to answer and have adjourned the matter for one week to enable Salisbury West to call any witnesses in respect of the defence of Tyson Creek.



Tribunal Division C3 Dylan Kilworth (Kilburn) – striking charge on Hamish Kellam (broken jaw) Scotch OC (Wednesday 30/5/12 10.05pm to 10.25pm)

The Kilburn advocate sought an adjournment of the hearing on the basis that he had only received notice of the charge on Wednesday and as a result the Tribunal agreed to a one week adjournment.



Neither Creek or Kilworth can play this week.

[Lightning McQueen]

Tribunal Division 4: Tyson Creek Salisbury West – striking charge on Douglas Wright (broken jaw) Scotch OC (Wednesday 30/5/12 7.00pm to 9.55pm).

The Tribunal has heard evidence and received submissions in respect of the charge of striking Salisbury West player Tyson Creek on Scotch OC player Douglas Wright.

After hearing evidence and submissions the Tribunal have ruled that there is a case to answer and have adjourned the matter for one week to enable Salisbury West to call any witnesses in respect of the defence of Tyson Creek.



Tribunal Division C3 Dylan Kilworth (Kilburn) – striking charge on Hamish Kellam (broken jaw) Scotch OC (Wednesday 30/5/12 10.05pm to 10.25pm)

The Kilburn advocate sought an adjournment of the hearing on the basis that he had only received notice of the charge on Wednesday and as a result the Tribunal agreed to a one week adjournment.



Neither Creek or Kilworth can play this week.

Thanks for the feedback FE, now we can just hold off our thoughts til the investigations run their course.