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Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:26 pm
by The Bedge
Mr Beefy wrote:Like Sailsbury?

BANG BANG! :-BD

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:26 pm
by Fricky
Minion Master wrote:
Suri wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Minion Master wrote:so if towns playing in the SFL would be = Div 2/3 SAAFL and are put in 4 are they being given an assimilation period to successfully re-establish themselves in a perceived easier division rather than higher where they should be, not forgetting they pulled out of the SAAFL causing the whole 9 team in balance previously, so should they be granted any favours?

Maybe it was where a gap was that could be filled with an easy fix.


I think they are lucky to be in Div 4. When we came back from SAFA they put us in Div 6, which was a fair bit below the level we should have been. On the flip side we did go up 4 divisions in the next 4 years, picking up a few flags along the way.

I would think Townies will be in Div 3 in 2017.


hence the question are they getting an easy run & potential flag in div 4, to the detrement of other div 4 sides, when they should go into 3 or 2 and for what it's worth I also think they will be in Div 3 in 2017


Is their position in Div 4 more to do with the opinions of the clubs that Edwardstown should have to earn their way to the higher Divisions rather than be gifted a spot in them?

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:30 pm
by Footy Chick
I believe this was simply a matter of which div was available at the time. THey wanted D3.

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:46 pm
by Minion Master
Zartan wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:Like Sailsbury?

BANG BANG! :-BD


Exactly!!!

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:53 pm
by Minion Master
Is their position in Div 4 more to do with the opinions of the clubs that Edwardstown should have to earn their way to the higher Divisions rather than be gifted a spot in them?[/quote]

glass half full or empty could argue point both ways - gifted going higher or easy run placed lower. FWIW my opinion is higher would better determine where they sit, if they do it tough they drop a Div or hold their own and stay, rather than do it easy and win a flag doing out of a chance a team that may have worked hard for years for a chance at a flag and promotion.

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:58 pm
by Lance's brother
Mr Beefy wrote:
Minion Master wrote:
Suri wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Maybe it was where a gap was that could be filled with an easy fix.


I think they are lucky to be in Div 4. When we came back from SAFA they put us in Div 6, which was a fair bit below the level we should have been. On the flip side we did go up 4 divisions in the next 4 years, picking up a few flags along the way.

I would think Townies will be in Div 3 in 2017.


hence the question are they getting an easy run & potential flag in div 4, to the detrement of other div 4 sides, when they should go into 3 or 2 and for what it's worth I also think they will be in Div 3 in 2017

Like Sailsbury?



So that's it...? Div 4 is a lock in November the year before the season starts now?

This is getting earlier and earlier every year.

Guess the rest of us can rest up and start planning for 2017 then.

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:59 pm
by Fricky
Minion Master wrote:Is their position in Div 4 more to do with the opinions of the clubs that Edwardstown should have to earn their way to the higher Divisions rather than be gifted a spot in them?


glass half full or empty could argue point both ways - gifted going higher or easy run placed lower. FWIW my opinion is higher would better determine where they sit, if they do it tough they drop a Div or hold their own and stay, rather than do it easy and win a flag doing out of a chance a team that may have worked hard for years for a chance at a flag and promotion.[/quote]

Fair point. I would say there will be a few smiles around the place if Townies don't make it through to the GF next season

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:00 pm
by Footy Chick
Minion Master wrote:Is their position in Div 4 more to do with the opinions of the clubs that Edwardstown should have to earn their way to the higher Divisions rather than be gifted a spot in them?


glass half full or empty could argue point both ways - gifted going higher or easy run placed lower. FWIW my opinion is higher would better determine where they sit, if they do it tough they drop a Div or hold their own and stay, rather than do it easy and win a flag doing out of a chance a team that may have worked hard for years for a chance at a flag and promotion.[/quote]

But then everyone thought that with the recruits that the lodge picked up for 2015, that they'd be a shoe in.

We all know what happened there.

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:01 pm
by Boosh
Footy Chick wrote:I believe this was simply a matter of which div was available at the time. THey wanted D3.


Correct, with Seaton nominating to stay up as is their right after the Salisbury Cowards pulled the pin on Div 3 the only opening was Div 4 so there really wasn't a decision to be made.

The result is an 8 team Div 4 with two Div 3 clubs in it but those are the rules and we can only really blame ourselves (our clubs) for agreeing to these rules and not changing them at some point when common sense probably suggested we should.

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:03 pm
by Footy Chick
Boosh wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:I believe this was simply a matter of which div was available at the time. THey wanted D3.


Correct, with Seaton nominating to stay up as is their right after the Salisbury Cowards pulled the pin on Div 3 the only opening was Div 4 so there really wasn't a decision to be made.

The result is an 8 team Div 4 with two Div 3 clubs in it but those are the rules and we can only really blame ourselves (our clubs) for agreeing to these rules and not changing them at some point when common sense probably suggested we should.



Well there was another opening ... in D7 ;)

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:13 pm
by Boosh
Footy Chick wrote:
Boosh wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:I believe this was simply a matter of which div was available at the time. THey wanted D3.


Correct, with Seaton nominating to stay up as is their right after the Salisbury Cowards pulled the pin on Div 3 the only opening was Div 4 so there really wasn't a decision to be made.

The result is an 8 team Div 4 with two Div 3 clubs in it but those are the rules and we can only really blame ourselves (our clubs) for agreeing to these rules and not changing them at some point when common sense probably suggested we should.



Well there was another opening ... in D7 ;)


That is true and it was no secret that Hectorville wanted to stay in Div 4 so they are probably a bit annoyed, im in two minds but Edwardstown would have made life very tough for teams in Divs 5 6 and 7 as they made their way up.

In Div 4 they will be hot favourites along with the other Div 3 club but they won't have it all their own way, in the lower grades I think they would have.

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:17 pm
by Minion Master
So that's it...? Div 4 is a lock in November the year before the season starts now?

This is getting earlier and earlier every year.

Guess the rest of us can rest up and start planning for 2017 then.

the word "potential" was in there as in could happen was only a scenario but going on WOS form in 2015 maybe should look to 2017 as only mediocre this year ;)

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:10 pm
by The Big Shrek
How can anyone be calling Edwarstown or Salisbury flag favourite! North Haven are in this division! They are the pre-season flag favourite!

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:13 pm
by Q.
Think it goes something like this... North Haven premiers, Salisbury to be relegated.

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:32 pm
by cracka
If the top 2 teams in SFL are around div 1/2 standard & with Edwardstown only finishing the SFL minor round in 8th, wouldn't that make them about div 4 standard anyway?

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:04 pm
by Footy Chick
Q. wrote:Think it goes something like this... North Haven premiers, Salisbury to be relegated.


You can't write Salisbury off until they've lost their first trial match ;)

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:49 pm
by twobob
S Demon wrote:2015 Results - Top 8 teams in BLUE
1 Marion 6.7-43 lost to Edwardstown 10.18-78
2 Edwardstown 26.11-167 def Hackham 10.11-71
3 Noarlunga 11.11-77 def Edwardstown 7.6-48
4 Edwardstown 3.9-27 lost to Morphettville Park 10.5-65
5 Christies Beach 11.11-77 lost to 14.2-86 Edwardstown
6 Edwardstown 9.4-58 lost to Reynella 15.8-98
7 Morphett Vale 23.23-161 def Edwardstown 4.2-26
8 Edwardstown 12.16-88 def Marion 10.13-73
9 Edwardstown 5.8-38 lost to Port Noarlunga 10.6-66
10 Brighton Bombers 19.13-127 def Edwardstown 15.15-105
11 Edwardstown 22.27-159 def OSB/Lonsdale 5.5-35
12 Aldinga 5.9-39 lost to Edwardstown 18.14-122
13 Edwardstown 7.2-44 lost to Happy Valley 11.15-81
14 Edwardstown 11.8-74 lost to Flagstaff Hill 17.9-111
15 BYE
16 Edwardstown 15.15-105 def Cove 5.5-35
17 Hackham 6.2-38 lost to Edwardstown 24.14-158
18 Edwardstown 24.24-168 def OSB/Lonsdale 5.4-34
19 Edwardstown 11.4-70 lost to Christies Beach 12.7-79
20 BYE

Finals
(Elimination Final 1) Edwardstown 6.2-38 def Morphettville Park 4.12-36
(Semi Final 1) Edwardstown 9.8-62 lost to Flagstaff Hill 11.16-82


other than Christies and Morphy Parks which they got lucky on a shitful day where they had 8 scoring shots to 16, all the other teams they beat would struggle in div 4 IMO

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:41 am
by Lance's brother
Minion Master wrote:
the word "potential" was in there as in could happen was only a scenario but going on WOS form in 2015 maybe should look to 2017 as only mediocre this year ;)



And your club is...? I see you've got Broughton Mundoora listed, which is like me listing BSR as my grassroots team even though I haven't played there for 19 years.

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:39 am
by Pag
FWIW, we were unofficially told that Townies would be put in Div 3, then there was a backflip.

Re: CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:32 am
by beef
Pag wrote:FWIW, we were unofficially told that Townies would be put in Div 3, then there was a backflip.

Come on Pag, lets not start dealing with facts. Thats not how this site works. Salisbury are just soft cowards and every other teams grading was all because salisbury took the easy option.