Are College Teams Soft?

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Are college teams soft?

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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:11 pm

jointman wrote:isn't soft ducking your head going for a mark-also reaching for a ball and not going in for it?


Been watching Port Power eh?
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby jointman » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:18 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:
jointman wrote:isn't soft ducking your head going for a mark-also reaching for a ball and not going in for it?


Been watching Port Power eh?

rather watch port than the colliewobbles
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:36 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:
Iron Fist wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:Fisty, sound like when the going got tough, the tough got going somewhere else.

Portland Oval is near a Christian School isn't it? Maybe you need to move your oval closer to the cement works and harden the f*** up!


coming from a bloke whos club dropped 2 divs in as many years
maybe you blokes should move closer to the QEH and get yourselfs some heart!!


Maybe we should have a forum "Which district side talks it up to disguise the fact that, actually, they are pretty soft?"


Some college poof alreay tried that.
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:51 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Iron Fist wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:Fisty, sound like when the going got tough, the tough got going somewhere else.

Portland Oval is near a Christian School isn't it? Maybe you need to move your oval closer to the cement works and harden the f*** up!


coming from a bloke whos club dropped 2 divs in as many years
maybe you blokes should move closer to the QEH and get yourselfs some heart!!


Maybe we should have a forum "Which district side talks it up to disguise the fact that, actually, they are pretty soft?"


Some college poof alreay tried that.


Funny thing is Shrek, I went to watch Kilburn play Scotch at kilburn last year - from what I saw, you haven't any right to call anyone else soft. Your own supporters were calling you soft in the second half
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby candyman » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:08 pm

How does anyone come up with the idea that College teams are soft. It is purely a myth. For god sake, just because their parents had some money and sent them for a private education does not mean the player is soft. The whole arguement is purely based on that assumption that a Private Education = Soft. Have played with and against some wonderful College players and none of them are soft. Certainly the theory that Adelaide University is soft, is the biggest lot of crap I have ever heard. They are as hard at the ball as anyone. Your idea of soft is questionable. Hardness is going for the football and not forging a reputation as a club that snipes, king hits, belts people when not looking and just plain digusting people. Those people and clubs are not hard or tough. Indeed some of those clubs are soft as butter because when they are put to the test and made to go for a hard ball, they pull out and try to belt someone. Toughness is about putting your head over the ball not being a thug
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:18 pm

Iron Fist wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:Funny - I played 250 games of country, district and finally; old scholars
Want me to start naming some very soft district sides I played against! They were usually the ones with the biggest mouths - I see nothing much has changed


i wouldnt mind hearing a few names jimmy!!
who were they??


Kilburn for a start - as above. I nearly pissed myself laughing that a Kilburn bloke started this string

Salisbury Central - I use to smile when they would mouth off before the game on how they were going to cripple us. All you had to do was belt a couple back and they were @#$%ing laughable in how very soft they really were

I wonder how Rostrevor have stayed in A1 for so long being a soft college side - I have watched them in the past 6 years - I didn't see too much softness
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:32 pm

I would agree we were terrible in many facets of football in 2007 Jimmy.

I'm sure you can find multiple incidents of 'softness' from non-college teams.

However, the prevelance of such behaviour in college teams compared to district teams is sufficient to make the generalisation that college teams are soft.
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:44 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:I would agree we were terrible in many facets of football in 2007 Jimmy.

I'm sure you can find multiple incidents of 'softness' from non-college teams.

However, the prevelance of such behaviour in college teams compared to district teams is sufficient to make the generalisation that college teams are soft.


Well, you are allowed your opinion - and I am not sure you have the evidence of the supposed prevalence

I will worry about my team and you can yours - but it wasn't just 2007 was it? We played a trial match against you in 2003 - I saw it then as well
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:45 pm

Jimmy obviously all your expensive education couldn't buy you a sense of humour, but seeing as you are so keen to take this thread seriously, so will I.

In my experience college teams emphasise the use of the ball. Once they get possession they link up with handballs and generally try to get as many uncontested possessions as possible.

District teams generally pride themselves on being tough. Therefore it is not surprising that they emphasise attacking the ball and contested possessions.

Players in each environment generally gravitate towards whichever style is promoted by their team.

Furthermore, all these rich college boys haven't had to do anything hard in their lives except for telling daddy that they dinged their Mercs. As with most traits, toughness is probably a combination of environmental and biological factors. As these college princesses have had little exposure to difficulty in their lives, the environmental factors leading to toughness are absent.

Attacking Kilburn about being soft is ridiculous. Have you even even played against us Jimmy?
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:48 pm

Sorry, just read your last post. I wasn't at Kilburn in 2003 and can't comment. Gave you boys a hiding in 2005 though.

I don't have any evidence apart from the reasoning I stated above and the observations of others and myself. Asking for any other evidence is ridiculous as last time I checked there wasn't any empirical data concerning 'toughness'.
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby jointman » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:51 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:Sorry, just read your last post. I wasn't at Kilburn in 2003 and can't comment. Gave you boys a hiding in 2005 though.

I don't have any evidence apart from the reasoning I stated above and the observations of others and myself. Asking for any other evidence is ridiculous as last time I checked there wasn't any empirical data concerning 'toughness'.

hey shrek is dallas wiles still there at kilburn
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:53 pm

Nah, he's been helping out doing underage running with Port and Centrals in the last couple of years.
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:14 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:Jimmy obviously all your expensive education couldn't buy you a sense of humour, but seeing as you are so keen to take this thread seriously, so will I.

In my experience college teams emphasise the use of the ball. Once they get possession they link up with handballs and generally try to get as many uncontested possessions as possible.

District teams generally pride themselves on being tough. Therefore it is not surprising that they emphasise attacking the ball and contested possessions.

Players in each environment generally gravitate towards whichever style is promoted by their team.

Furthermore, all these rich college boys haven't had to do anything hard in their lives except for telling daddy that they dinged their Mercs. As with most traits, toughness is probably a combination of environmental and biological factors. As these college princesses have had little exposure to difficulty in their lives, the environmental factors leading to toughness are absent.

Attacking Kilburn about being soft is ridiculous. Have you even even played against us Jimmy?


Actually, I started playing back when PAC were in A1 in the 80's, so I have probably played against all of the better known clubs other than Henley and Port Districts. I have played against Kilburn many times

I do have a sense of humour - I was just seeing whether you'd go the knuckle when I gave it back to you - I was right.

By the way, my dad had a ute on our property, and I was brought up shearing, fencing, mulesing and hay carting - so it just goes to show that generalisations actually are very inaccurate, just like mine about Kilburn being soft.

You are right though - this is far too serious - let's go pick on Hafey instead....... He deserves it
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:47 pm

Hafey(pop-eye) has been rather quiet lately. I think he has been told off for saying something rather untoward to a female poster.

He may also be a tad dissappointed he didn't make the community football board the SANFL set up.

Good idea though, I might go razz him up about that now!

By the way, I don't know if generalisations are always innaccurate. You can always find exceptions to generalisations because that is their nature. If they didn't have exceptions they would be rules instead of generalisations. Applying generalisations to individuals without questioning whether it is appropriate might be silly.
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:05 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:Hafey(pop-eye) has been rather quiet lately. I think he has been told of for saying something rather untoward to a female poster.

He may also be a tad dissappointed he didn't make the community football board the SANFL set up.

Good idea though, I might go razz him up about that now!

By the way, I don't know if generalisations are always innaccurate. You can always find exceptions to generalisations because that is their nature. If they didn't have exceptions they would be rules instead of generalisations. Applying generalisations to individuals without questioning whether it is appropriate might be silly.


He was binned last week for a while - I heard what he said - she should have had him permanently tossed.
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby Footy Chick » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:07 pm

She's the cats mother :wink:

and she did :?

PS: Good avatar choice Jimbob.. I :heart: Dale Thomas :wink:
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:14 pm

So is Popeye gone permanently or just a break?
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:16 pm

Hungover again FC

PAC 125th Anniversary Rowing Dinner last night

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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby Footy Chick » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:21 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:So is Popeye gone permanently or just a break?


the former... no doubt he'll be try and make a comeback soon...
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Re: Are College Teams Soft?

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:45 pm

Footy Chick wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:So is Popeye gone permanently or just a break?


the former... no doubt he'll be try and make a comeback soon...


I'm a bit disappointed he has gone for good. As you may have seen in other threads FC, I'm against capital punishment ha ha.
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