SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

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Who Will Play in the GF in 2009?

Gaza
18
4%
Gepps Cross
69
17%
Goodwood Saints
111
27%
Henley
83
21%
Modbury
14
3%
Port District
8
2%
Rostrevor OC
6
1%
Sacred Heart OC
10
2%
Salisbury North
57
14%
Tea Tree Gully
28
7%
 
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Well run » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:29 am

Footy Smart wrote:MP recruits from SANFL clubs dont come for 150 bucks a game they come for alot more.... how many have they recruited??? also players from the countyr eg. Mclean who is a gun would not come cheap.

like lads we at Modbury also rely on our young kids who have come through the junior grades and now have an A2 premiership and other finals experience.


FS I don't know what money there recruits are on but $150 to 250 dollers a game seems what most clubs pay. I just don't see why Gepps and Sals north get branded with spending big money. I will also say i think you will find that Gepps got all there recruits because there all good mates!!!
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Footy Smart » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:32 am

masterplan man wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:MP recruits from SANFL clubs dont come for 150 bucks a game they come for alot more.... how many have they recruited??? also players from the countyr eg. Mclean who is a gun would not come cheap.

like lads we at Modbury also rely on our young kids who have come through the junior grades and now have an A2 premiership and other finals experience.


FS I don't know what money there recruits are on but $150 to 250 dollers a game seems what most clubs pay. I just don't see why Gepps and Sals north get branded with spending big money. I will also say i think you will find that Gepps got all there recruits because there all good mates!!!



I dont doubt that some are mates etc etc.... but in the end these players well majority want good money if they are to leave a league club. I dont see 150-200 bucks as being enough.

To be honest im not really fussed i just hate it when people say oh we dont pay ra ra ra when that BS and everyone knows it....
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Well run » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:44 am

Footy Smart wrote:
masterplan man wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:MP recruits from SANFL clubs dont come for 150 bucks a game they come for alot more.... how many have they recruited??? also players from the countyr eg. Mclean who is a gun would not come cheap.

like lads we at Modbury also rely on our young kids who have come through the junior grades and now have an A2 premiership and other finals experience.


FS I don't know what money there recruits are on but $150 to 250 dollers a game seems what most clubs pay. I just don't see why Gepps and Sals north get branded with spending big money. I will also say i think you will find that Gepps got all there recruits because there all good mates!!!



I dont doubt that some are mates etc etc.... but in the end these players well majority want good money if they are to leave a league club. I dont see 150-200 bucks as being enough.

To be honest im not really fussed i just hate it when people say oh we dont pay ra ra ra when that BS and everyone knows it....


I totally agree with you. Yes they would be getting paid and who really knows what there getting it an arguement that ppl will swear black and blue that different clubs pay different amounts i for one think all clubs pay the same kind of money.. Of coarse with in the salary cap :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby aceman » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:37 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
masterplan man wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:MP recruits from SANFL clubs dont come for 150 bucks a game they come for alot more.... how many have they recruited??? also players from the countyr eg. Mclean who is a gun would not come cheap.

like lads we at Modbury also rely on our young kids who have come through the junior grades and now have an A2 premiership and other finals experience.


FS I don't know what money there recruits are on but $150 to 250 dollers a game seems what most clubs pay. I just don't see why Gepps and Sals north get branded with spending big money. I will also say i think you will find that Gepps got all there recruits because there all good mates!!!



I dont doubt that some are mates etc etc.... but in the end these players well majority want good money if they are to leave a league club. I dont see 150-200 bucks as being enough.

To be honest im not really fussed i just hate it when people say oh we dont pay ra ra ra when that BS and everyone knows it....


This probably needs to be put in the correct context. Gepps Cross has never said it doesnt pay players(unlike some other Div 1 & 2 clubs). It has been rumoured by all and sundry that we pay excessive amounts to players, without any foundation whatsoever except heresay.
It shouldn't matter what a player gets because most are worth every cent,the issue arises when players in conversation want to build their own ego's to the extent they lie about what they get.
The other issue is players sl*tting themselves around (I will PM you Lads about a couple of your guys) looking for extra coin, going back to their own club and talking bullsh*t about other offers in an attempt to increase their worth. There are guys that do it every year.

With due respect to Modbury, if Vassil and Gunning weren't on good money then I'm a monkeys uncle and one of footy's biggest grabbers, a Modbury guy left the club and shopped at just about every club in Adelaide, played at 2 other clubs and went back to Modbury. He doesn't play for nothing so I suggest we all stop kidding ourselves because unless you are on the 'inside' you have no idea about player payments, you can only guess!
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Footy Smart » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:53 pm

With due respect to Modbury, if Vassil and Gunning weren't on good money then I'm a monkeys uncle and one of footy's biggest grabbers, a Modbury guy left the club and shopped at just about every club in Adelaide, played at 2 other clubs and went back to Modbury. He doesn't play for nothing so I suggest we all stop kidding ourselves because unless you are on the 'inside' you have no idea about player payments, you can only guess


Vassal and Gunning are the exception at Modbury. Vassal played for well under what he would have got at any other club but played at his junior club. Gunning only came due to Brad becoming good friends with him at Maitland.

With Vassal and Gunning gone there is no paid players at modbury other than there winning and loosing game payments which is standard across all players.

Its a never ending discussion so lets talk about footy.....

Modbury has been battling the heat but still getting good numbers out. time trial results show improvement in fitness which means they are all doing there own work.

The lads are really looking forward to the challenge this year
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby aceman » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:59 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
With due respect to Modbury, if Vassil and Gunning weren't on good money then I'm a monkeys uncle and one of footy's biggest grabbers, a Modbury guy left the club and shopped at just about every club in Adelaide, played at 2 other clubs and went back to Modbury. He doesn't play for nothing so I suggest we all stop kidding ourselves because unless you are on the 'inside' you have no idea about player payments, you can only guess


Vassal and Gunning are the exception at Modbury. Vassal played for well under what he would have got at any other club but played at his junior club. Gunning only came due to Brad becoming good friends with him at Maitland.

With Vassal and Gunning gone there is no paid players at modbury other than there winning and loosing game payments which is standard across all players.

Its a never ending discussion so lets talk about footy.....

Modbury has been battling the heat but still getting good numbers out. time trial results show improvement in fitness which means they are all doing there own work.

The lads are really looking forward to the challenge this year



Good idea, the sooner the season starts the better. Is Dennis French still involved up there?
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Lads » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:12 pm

aceman wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:
masterplan man wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:MP recruits from SANFL clubs dont come for 150 bucks a game they come for alot more.... how many have they recruited??? also players from the countyr eg. Mclean who is a gun would not come cheap.

like lads we at Modbury also rely on our young kids who have come through the junior grades and now have an A2 premiership and other finals experience.


FS I don't know what money there recruits are on but $150 to 250 dollers a game seems what most clubs pay. I just don't see why Gepps and Sals north get branded with spending big money. I will also say i think you will find that Gepps got all there recruits because there all good mates!!!



I dont doubt that some are mates etc etc.... but in the end these players well majority want good money if they are to leave a league club. I dont see 150-200 bucks as being enough.

To be honest im not really fussed i just hate it when people say oh we dont pay ra ra ra when that BS and everyone knows it....


This probably needs to be put in the correct context. Gepps Cross has never said it doesnt pay players(unlike some other Div 1 & 2 clubs). It has been rumoured by all and sundry that we pay excessive amounts to players, without any foundation whatsoever except heresay.
It shouldn't matter what a player gets because most are worth every cent,the issue arises when players in conversation want to build their own ego's to the extent they lie about what they get.
The other issue is players sl*tting themselves around (I will PM you Lads about a couple of your guys) looking for extra coin, going back to their own club and talking bullsh*t about other offers in an attempt to increase their worth. There are guys that do it every year.

With due respect to Modbury, if Vassil and Gunning weren't on good money then I'm a monkeys uncle and one of footy's biggest grabbers, a Modbury guy left the club and shopped at just about every club in Adelaide, played at 2 other clubs and went back to Modbury. He doesn't play for nothing so I suggest we all stop kidding ourselves because unless you are on the 'inside' you have no idea about player payments, you can only guess!

Well ace i would like to know what salisbury north players your talking about
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Footy Smart » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:40 pm

aceman wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:
With due respect to Modbury, if Vassil and Gunning weren't on good money then I'm a monkeys uncle and one of footy's biggest grabbers, a Modbury guy left the club and shopped at just about every club in Adelaide, played at 2 other clubs and went back to Modbury. He doesn't play for nothing so I suggest we all stop kidding ourselves because unless you are on the 'inside' you have no idea about player payments, you can only guess


Vassal and Gunning are the exception at Modbury. Vassal played for well under what he would have got at any other club but played at his junior club. Gunning only came due to Brad becoming good friends with him at Maitland.

With Vassal and Gunning gone there is no paid players at modbury other than there winning and loosing game payments which is standard across all players.

Its a never ending discussion so lets talk about footy.....

Modbury has been battling the heat but still getting good numbers out. time trial results show improvement in fitness which means they are all doing there own work.

The lads are really looking forward to the challenge this year



Good idea, the sooner the season starts the better. Is Dennis French still involved up there?


Frenchy still floats around the club although his input isnt as big as what it used to be.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Blue Boy » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:05 am

aceman wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:
masterplan man wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:MP recruits from SANFL clubs dont come for 150 bucks a game they come for alot more.... how many have they recruited??? also players from the countyr eg. Mclean who is a gun would not come cheap.

like lads we at Modbury also rely on our young kids who have come through the junior grades and now have an A2 premiership and other finals experience.


FS I don't know what money there recruits are on but $150 to 250 dollers a game seems what most clubs pay. I just don't see why Gepps and Sals north get branded with spending big money. I will also say i think you will find that Gepps got all there recruits because there all good mates!!!



I dont doubt that some are mates etc etc.... but in the end these players well majority want good money if they are to leave a league club. I dont see 150-200 bucks as being enough.

To be honest im not really fussed i just hate it when people say oh we dont pay ra ra ra when that BS and everyone knows it....


This probably needs to be put in the correct context. Gepps Cross has never said it doesnt pay players(unlike some other Div 1 & 2 clubs). It has been rumoured by all and sundry that we pay excessive amounts to players, without any foundation whatsoever except heresay.
It shouldn't matter what a player gets because most are worth every cent,the issue arises when players in conversation want to build their own ego's to the extent they lie about what they get.
The other issue is players sl*tting themselves around (I will PM you Lads about a couple of your guys) looking for extra coin, going back to their own club and talking bullsh*t about other offers in an attempt to increase their worth. There are guys that do it every year.

With due respect to Modbury, if Vassil and Gunning weren't on good money then I'm a monkeys uncle and one of footy's biggest grabbers, a Modbury guy left the club and shopped at just about every club in Adelaide, played at 2 other clubs and went back to Modbury. He doesn't play for nothing so I suggest we all stop kidding ourselves because unless you are on the 'inside' you have no idea about player payments, you can only guess!


Hey Champ if thats what I can call ya !!!

Unless you have the inside word on anything that goes on at the Hawks I rekon you might just be a monkeys uncle !!!
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby aceman » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:34 pm

Well ace i would like to know what salisbury north players your talking about



Read the pm I sent you.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby aceman » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:37 pm

Hey Champ if thats what I can call ya !!!

Unless you have the inside word on anything that goes on at the Hawks I rekon you might just be a monkeys uncle !!!



BB, it maybe I have got some inside info, (oops sorry Champ, if that's what I may call you!)
Just happen to know a few past & present players at Modbury and a few committee persons too!
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby On1Leg » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:39 pm

I dont doubt that some are mates etc etc.... but in the end these players well majority want good money if they are to leave a league club. I dont see 150-200 bucks as being enough.

To be honest im not really fussed i just hate it when people say oh we dont pay ra ra ra when that BS and everyone knows it....[/quote]

This probably needs to be put in the correct context. Gepps Cross has never said it doesnt pay players(unlike some other Div 1 & 2 clubs). It has been rumoured by all and sundry that we pay excessive amounts to players, without any foundation whatsoever except heresay.
It shouldn't matter what a player gets because most are worth every cent,the issue arises when players in conversation want to build their own ego's to the extent they lie about what they get.
The other issue is players sl*tting themselves around (I will PM you Lads about a couple of your guys) looking for extra coin, going back to their own club and talking bullsh*t about other offers in an attempt to increase their worth. There are guys that do it every year.

With due respect to Modbury, if Vassil and Gunning weren't on good money then I'm a monkeys uncle and one of footy's biggest grabbers, a Modbury guy left the club and shopped at just about every club in Adelaide, played at 2 other clubs and went back to Modbury. He doesn't play for nothing so I suggest we all stop kidding ourselves because unless you are on the 'inside' you have no idea about player payments, you can only guess![/quote]



Gepps and Salisbury North have been paying HUGE $$$$ for a while now. Everyone knows this. It is not an issue. The only issue is the riduculous "salary cap." There is no way these clubs are under it. Those who deny this are kidding themselves. Why do the SAAFL bother with a "cap" when it is virtually impossible to police?
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby aceman » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:22 am

On1Leg wrote:I dont doubt that some are mates etc etc.... but in the end these players well majority want good money if they are to leave a league club. I dont see 150-200 bucks as being enough.

To be honest im not really fussed i just hate it when people say oh we dont pay ra ra ra when that BS and everyone knows it....


This probably needs to be put in the correct context. Gepps Cross has never said it doesnt pay players(unlike some other Div 1 & 2 clubs). It has been rumoured by all and sundry that we pay excessive amounts to players, without any foundation whatsoever except heresay.
It shouldn't matter what a player gets because most are worth every cent,the issue arises when players in conversation want to build their own ego's to the extent they lie about what they get.
The other issue is players sl*tting themselves around (I will PM you Lads about a couple of your guys) looking for extra coin, going back to their own club and talking bullsh*t about other offers in an attempt to increase their worth. There are guys that do it every year.

With due respect to Modbury, if Vassil and Gunning weren't on good money then I'm a monkeys uncle and one of footy's biggest grabbers, a Modbury guy left the club and shopped at just about every club in Adelaide, played at 2 other clubs and went back to Modbury. He doesn't play for nothing so I suggest we all stop kidding ourselves because unless you are on the 'inside' you have no idea about player payments, you can only guess![/quote]



Gepps and Salisbury North have been paying HUGE $$$$ for a . It is not an issue. The only issue is the riduculous "salary cap." Twhile now. Everyone knows thishere is no way these clubs are under it. Those who deny this are kidding themselves. Why do the SAAFL bother with a "cap" when it is virtually impossible to police?[/quote]


May I ask you with what authority you make that statement? Heresay or actual knowledge from the inner sanctum!

Can I suggest you are another person who makes ill informed guesses and wishes to stereotype the clubs mentioned. I suggest until you know exactly what goes on at these clubs, you should be inclusive of many, many others who do the same thing but maybe "fly under the radar".
Your mention of the salary cap is relevant, that's why every other affiliated league has scrapped it and gone to a points system
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Lads » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:10 am

aceman wrote:Well ace i would like to know what salisbury north players your talking about



Read the pm I sent you.



Yes I did ace the first player you mentioned is a suprise as he does extra things around the club ... As for the second one
he left 2 years ago chasing the cash
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Inflight » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:50 pm

Just to put some sort of perspective on the money paid to players issue.

Consider this
An aspiring SANFL player can train 5-6 nights per week. If contracted depending on their standing within the club, starting out as an unknown quantity may get say $200/game Based on 2 hours per night, this roughly equates to $16/hour
If that player only plays reserves then that figure could drop to $50/game $4.16/hour

Here is the question:-If a player leaves the SANFL and plays amateurs, puts in at training like there was no tomorrow and does the same on a Saturday imparts heaps of knowledge, helps the coach and is partly instrumental (team game) in the club winning a grand final then how much is that player worth.?

In 10 years time when you ask them what was it like to play in a winning Grand Final and they will tell you quarter by quarter because there is no better feeling than going into battle with your mates and winning the ultimate prize.
Ask him in 10 years time what he got paid and he wouldn't even remember because the end result was bigger than the money.

If a player is recognised for their ability and is paid accordingly than so be it. Hopefuly for the benefit of the game and the players own integrity they have put in and deserved it
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby aceman » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:00 pm

Inflight wrote:Just to put some sort of perspective on the money paid to players issue.

Consider this
An aspiring SANFL player can train 5-6 nights per week. If contracted depending on their standing within the club, starting out as an unknown quantity may get say $200/game Based on 2 hours per night, this roughly equates to $16/hour
If that player only plays reserves then that figure could drop to $50/game $4.16/hour

Here is the question:-If a player leaves the SANFL and plays amateurs, puts in at training like there was no tomorrow and does the same on a Saturday imparts heaps of knowledge, helps the coach and is partly instrumental (team game) in the club winning a grand final then how much is that player worth.?
In 10 years time when you ask them what was it like to play in a winning Grand Final and they will tell you quarter by quarter because there is no better feeling than going into battle with your mates and winning the ultimate prize.
Ask him in 10 years time what he got paid and he wouldn't even remember because the end result was bigger than the money.

If a player is recognised for their ability and is paid accordingly than so be it. Hopefuly for the benefit of the game and the players own integrity they have put in and deserved it


A great comment, however, those guys you cannot put a $$$ value on because they are "priceless" just like volunteers at every club.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Blue Boy » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:13 pm

aceman wrote:Hey Champ if thats what I can call ya !!!

Unless you have the inside word on anything that goes on at the Hawks I rekon you might just be a monkeys uncle !!!



BB, it maybe I have got some inside info, (oops sorry Champ, if that's what I may call you!)
Just happen to know a few past & present players at Modbury and a few committee persons too!



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Me doubts it very muchly !!!!
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Iron Fist » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:25 pm

Inflight wrote:Just to put some sort of perspective on the money paid to players issue.

Consider this
An aspiring SANFL player can train 5-6 nights per week. If contracted depending on their standing within the club, starting out as an unknown quantity may get say $200/game Based on 2 hours per night, this roughly equates to $16/hour
If that player only plays reserves then that figure could drop to $50/game $4.16/hour

Here is the question:-If a player leaves the SANFL and plays amateurs, puts in at training like there was no tomorrow and does the same on a Saturday imparts heaps of knowledge, helps the coach and is partly instrumental (team game) in the club winning a grand final then how much is that player worth.?

In 10 years time when you ask them what was it like to play in a winning Grand Final and they will tell you quarter by quarter because there is no better feeling than going into battle with your mates and winning the ultimate prize.
Ask him in 10 years time what he got paid and he wouldn't even remember because the end result was bigger than the money.

If a player is recognised for their ability and is paid accordingly than so be it. Hopefuly for the benefit of the game and the players own integrity they have put in and deserved it


that is very well said
the other point is, if this bloke who has come from a sanfl club for some cahs is helping the coach and actively being involved with the club, you will also find he is more then likely spending half his payments at the club, on beers, dinner on a sat night and other social events. So in turn the club is only paying half as much as people say!

I dont think it is the ex SANFl players who are real money chasers, there would be some
but more the blokes who couldnt make it out at an SANFl club, but still think they are guns and cant get off there high horse!!
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby Rotter » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:26 am

Can anyone tell me when the last time SHOC were in Div1? I've got the years 97 or 98 in my head
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2009)

Postby White Unicorn » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:48 am

Rotter wrote:Can anyone tell me when the last time SHOC were in Div1? I've got the years 97 or 98 in my head


i think it was 98 Rotter
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