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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:29 pm

Just to clear it up FC using current ladder:
Gepps and SHOC down to div 2
Pt district and uni to div 1
Eastern park to div 3
Smosh to div 2
Pembroke and pooraka to div 4
Unley to div 3
Elizabeth and para hills to div 5
Brahma and Lutheran to div 4

.. and so on lol
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby marbles » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:36 pm

so the rams
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Just to clear it up FC using current ladder:
Gepps and SHOC down to div 2
Pt district and uni to div 1
Eastern park to div 3
Smosh to div 2
Pembroke and pooraka to div 4
Unley to div 3
Elizabeth and para hills to div 5
Brahma and Lutheran to div 4

.. and so on lol


so the seaton miss out on promotion that way, still flawed, how else can be done.....
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:49 pm

Never going to keep everyone happy, guess its a matter of keeping unhappy ppl to a minimum?
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby marbles » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:12 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:Never going to keep everyone happy, guess its a matter of keeping unhappy ppl to a minimum?


Nah u done really well mate. Just a few extra tweaks could further satisfy? Maybe just relegate 3? I do know the league just random decide that 4 would be relegated one season and 4 went up or ship
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Yank Man » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:51 pm

Executive Member wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:To be honest all I know about it, is that the league created a Premier League in 1996 and I think it had 3 divisions. P1 consisted of x amount of A1 clubs and Edwardstown ( I think), then P2 had the top x amount of A2 clubs and PNU, Athelstone, Pooraka and a couple of other clubs from SAFA (Plympton may have been in there too) and P3 was made of the best of possibly the A3 clubs and a couple of SAFA teams.

I think it was after that year that the competition was re-graded to the D1,D2 etc... we know of now.

How exactly the divs ended up being spread out after that first initial year though is unknown to me. I actually think I read somewhere that the Premier division was set up as a semi professional setup which is why all of the SAFA teams were in there.

Sorry, that's about all I know off the top of my head. Fourth Estate would be the bloke who can shed more light on it all - and I hope this post hasnt been a case of "fractured fairytales" :lol:


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EM, in 1995 SAFA became extinct. They did a deal with SAAFL to have all their clubs enter SAAFL. P1 and P2 were activated because "no one" payed in amatuer league and clearly, SAFA did. So P1 was set up for the "best clubs" in SAFA who payed, and the best clubs in SAAFL who did not. P2 was the remainder of SAFA and a mix of SAAFL, all non paying clubs. Then came Div1, 2, etc etc. Athelstone were the current SAFA premiers and were offered a spot in P1, but they doubted they could compete at the "elite" level and declined. Edwardstown were the SAFA runners up and were then given the 2nd option. They accepted happily and played in a grand final only to lose to the "non paying" Adelaide Uni. Who pays and who doesn't is irrevelant, the facts are SAAFL saw an incredible opportunity at that time to strengthen their league and made it work. All power to those people. I spent 6 years on that SAFA executive and in the end the only thing that mattererd was the longevity of the clubs involved. SAAFL is now a generous sponsor of the survival of clubs like Athelstone, Pooraka, Plympton, Flinders Pk, Salisbury Nth, PNU, Para Hills and my apologies to who I have forgotten. If Brighton want in, let em in, just get their Div right. No free rides.
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby marbles » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:38 am

Ok heres a solution simply place brighton in div 4 make it an eleven team comp that has byes then make it known that at the end of 2013 3 teams will be relegated in each and every div below div 4 but only 2 goes up to the higher div
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby WHEELS&DEALS » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:17 pm

So by the sounds of things on here, the SAAFL hasn't kept any of the clubs up to date on what they are doing in allowing another team into the comp. I thought it would have had to be voted on.
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Executive Member » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:25 pm

WHEELS&DEALS wrote:So by the sounds of things on here, the SAAFL hasn't kept any of the clubs up to date on what they are doing in allowing another team into the comp. I thought it would have had to be voted on.


Not that there has been an application received but this would probably cover your other trolling comment

From the constituition
6. MEMBERSHIP: NEW ADMISSIONS
6.1 Any club desirous of playing Australian Football may make application for
admission to The League.
6.2 Each application made in accordance with paragraph 6.1 above shall be
considered by the Executive Committee and accepted or rejected at the sole
discretion of the Executive Committee.
6.3 All applications for membership shall be made and determined in accordance
with the provisions of the Rules and Regulations of The League relating to such
applications.
6.4 The decision of the Executive Committee shall be final and there shall be no
appeal against that decision.
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Dutchy » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:41 pm

Brighton would win D3 pretty easy and be in Div 2 in 2014.
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Panther32 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:08 pm

Dutchy wrote:Brighton would win D3 pretty easy and be in Div 2 in 2014.

Agreed.
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:29 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:Not one player being paid at Kilburn and we win 10 in a row.
At Kilburn we play for our mates!

=)) =)) =)) =)) =))
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Muffler » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:34 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:Just to clear it up FC using current ladder:
Gepps and SHOC down to div 2
Pt district and uni to div 1
Eastern park to div 3
Smosh to div 2
Pembroke and pooraka to div 4
Unley to div 3
Elizabeth and para hills to div 5
Brahma and Lutheran to div 4

.. and so on lol


May as well send CBC back to div four or they should request it because they need to start rebuilding and by staying in Div 3 if they can survive, it would be a waste of a year unless they can do some serious recruiting. So brighton could replace them. Looking forward to seeing what happens from here though.
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Champ » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:37 pm

All this tells me is if the club can get members on board then they'd promote that to the SFL in order to force two divs or leave.

Let's not forget, members on board is only the first logical step. Then it's juniors (parents/volunteers), senior players, sponsors and ofcourse some assurities from the SAAFL over grading.

If they miraculously went to SAAFL div 5 down and kept their current group of players they'd be fine for a few years but lets remember players age each season so by the time they get to the dizzy heights they might be a little tired. Yes good recruiting blah blah blah will counter this but I wonder how many players/points the bombers are using now in comparions to home grown players?

Personally I find it hard to believe Edwardstown would come over to the SFL only recently while the Bombers now want to go the other way! SFL have required a two tiered comp for years but idiotic arguments from yester year keep them ticking over the way they are now.

Also IF a number of SFL clubs came to SAAFL (much like the old SAFA shift) then would Salisbury North and co be happy driving to bloody flaggies and everywhere else every second weekend OR could there be an argument for regionalised devision with a north v south v west v east association carnival weekend. Yes, I'm getting way ahead of myself - I'm a state of origin tragic for starters..
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Wild Thing » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:36 pm

Muffler wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Just to clear it up FC using current ladder:
Gepps and SHOC down to div 2
Pt district and uni to div 1
Eastern park to div 3
Smosh to div 2
Pembroke and pooraka to div 4
Unley to div 3
Elizabeth and para hills to div 5
Brahma and Lutheran to div 4

.. and so on lol


May as well send CBC back to div four or they should request it because they need to start rebuilding and by staying in Div 3 if they can survive, it would be a waste of a year unless they can do some serious recruiting. So brighton could replace them. Looking forward to seeing what happens from here though.



Muffler why don't you send your own club back to Div 4 to make way for Brighton? - we fought bloody hard to get to Div. 3 over many years and we are not going to volunteer to go backwards. We did some serious recruiting this year only to cop the old injury curse - we have played some damn good footy this year and will be looking to stay put
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:03 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:Not one player being paid at Kilburn and we win 10 in a row.
At Kilburn we play for our mates!

=)) =)) =)) =)) =))


He's right - no-one's been paid since 30th June
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:09 pm

Champ wrote:All this tells me is if the club can get members on board then they'd promote that to the SFL in order to force two divs or leave.

Let's not forget, members on board is only the first logical step. Then it's juniors (parents/volunteers), senior players, sponsors and ofcourse some assurities from the SAAFL over grading.

If they miraculously went to SAAFL div 5 down and kept their current group of players they'd be fine for a few years but lets remember players age each season so by the time they get to the dizzy heights they might be a little tired. Yes good recruiting blah blah blah will counter this but I wonder how many players/points the bombers are using now in comparions to home grown players?

Personally I find it hard to believe Edwardstown would come over to the SFL only recently while the Bombers now want to go the other way! SFL have required a two tiered comp for years but idiotic arguments from yester year keep them ticking over the way they are now.

Also IF a number of SFL clubs came to SAAFL (much like the old SAFA shift) then would Salisbury North and co be happy driving to bloody flaggies and everywhere else every second weekend OR could there be an argument for regionalised devision with a north v south v west v east association carnival weekend. Yes, I'm getting way ahead of myself - I'm a state of origin tragic for starters..


Salisbury North have to travel to Henley, Brighton and Camden already
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Muffler » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:14 pm

Wild Thing wrote:
Muffler wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Just to clear it up FC using current ladder:
Gepps and SHOC down to div 2
Pt district and uni to div 1
Eastern park to div 3
Smosh to div 2
Pembroke and pooraka to div 4
Unley to div 3
Elizabeth and para hills to div 5
Brahma and Lutheran to div 4

.. and so on lol


May as well send CBC back to div four or they should request it because they need to start rebuilding and by staying in Div 3 if they can survive, it would be a waste of a year unless they can do some serious recruiting. So brighton could replace them. Looking forward to seeing what happens from here though.



Muffler why don't you send your own club back to Div 4 to make way for Brighton? - we fought bloody hard to get to Div. 3 over many years and we are not going to volunteer to go backwards. We did some serious recruiting this year only to cop the old injury curse - we have played some damn good footy this year and will be looking to stay put


I don't have a club in div 3 buddy. I know you did some serious recruiting and do have a few injuries too but you have no depth in your club what so ever which is obviously evident with some of your players playing A Grade footy.. Well keep working hard then, you might need too.
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby Wild Thing » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:30 pm

Muffler wrote:
Wild Thing wrote:
Muffler wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Just to clear it up FC using current ladder:
Gepps and SHOC down to div 2
Pt district and uni to div 1
Eastern park to div 3
Smosh to div 2
Pembroke and pooraka to div 4
Unley to div 3
Elizabeth and para hills to div 5
Brahma and Lutheran to div 4

.. and so on lol


May as well send CBC back to div four or they should request it because they need to start rebuilding and by staying in Div 3 if they can survive, it would be a waste of a year unless they can do some serious recruiting. So brighton could replace them. Looking forward to seeing what happens from here though.



Muffler why don't you send your own club back to Div 4 to make way for Brighton? - we fought bloody hard to get to Div. 3 over many years and we are not going to volunteer to go backwards. We did some serious recruiting this year only to cop the old injury curse - we have played some damn good footy this year and will be looking to stay put


I don't have a club in div 3 buddy. I know you did some serious recruiting and do have a few injuries too but you have no depth in your club what so ever which is obviously evident with some of your players playing A Grade footy.. Well keep working hard then, you might need too.


My mistake Muppet - it is just that you seem to be quite the expert on Div 3 and our club. Don't know too many clubs with 5-6 first choice A Graders playing B Grade but apparently your club does. Perhaps you would like to name this super club of yours?
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby easy TIGA » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:54 pm

It doesn't matter what's right and wrong in regards to relegation promotion etc, the saafl will make up and bend their own rules to make them look even more amateurish than they already do.
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Re: Brighton to join SAAFL Div 3 2013

Postby marbles » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:21 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:
Champ wrote:All this tells me is if the club can get members on board then they'd promote that to the SFL in order to force two divs or leave.

Let's not forget, members on board is only the first logical step. Then it's juniors (parents/volunteers), senior players, sponsors and ofcourse some assurities from the SAAFL over grading.

If they miraculously went to SAAFL div 5 down and kept their current group of players they'd be fine for a few years but lets remember players age each season so by the time they get to the dizzy heights they might be a little tired. Yes good recruiting blah blah blah will counter this but I wonder how many players/points the bombers are using now in comparions to home grown players?

Personally I find it hard to believe Edwardstown would come over to the SFL only recently while the Bombers now want to go the other way! SFL have required a two tiered comp for years but idiotic arguments from yester year keep them ticking over the way they are now.

Also IF a number of SFL clubs came to SAAFL (much like the old SAFA shift) then would Salisbury North and co be happy driving to bloody flaggies and everywhere else every second weekend OR could there be an argument for regionalised devision with a north v south v west v east association carnival weekend. Yes, I'm getting way ahead of myself - I'm a state of origin tragic for starters..


Salisbury North have to travel to Henley, Brighton and Camden already


Would Angle Vale to Flinders Uni be the longest drive in the SAAFL?
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