2011/12 pre-season

[X Runna]

I think you may find our dates are worked out after the AFL and maybe SANFL draws. It is all designed to finish at a certain time in their program. If my memory serves me correctly, Div 2 down grand finals are played on the AFL's second week of finals.

[Footy Chick]

Dont know why everyone is getting so worked up about playing 1 round and then having the easter bye, I can pull up at least 3 other occasions int he last 10 years where its happened and no-one was whinging about it then. Stop having a bitch for the sake of having a bitch.

The only problem which could be encountered is clubs being unable to use grounds because of an April 1 handover with their cricket clubs.

THe cricket season for all cricket comps finish the week before(weekend of the 24 and 25th) with the exception of Hills and grade which finish on March 31. Not every team is going to affected by not being able to use their oval, so it's just as easy to programme in away games for those clubs in round 1.

and then of course there is the use of Thebby to use up your mandatory 1 game there.

[zedman]

we got some strange american game that uses our oval..will be touch and go..might have to be away round 1..

[The Dark Knight]

Dont know why everyone is getting so worked up about playing 1 round and then having the easter bye, I can pull up at least 3 other occasions int he last 10 years where its happened and no-one was whinging about it then. Stop having a bitch for the sake of having a bitch.

The only problem which could be encountered is clubs being unable to use grounds because of an April 1 handover with their cricket clubs.

THe cricket season for all cricket comps finish the week before(weekend of the 24 and 25th) with the exception of Hills and grade which finish on March 31. Not every team is going to affected by not being able to use their oval, so it's just as easy to programme in away games for those clubs in round 1.

and then of course there is the use of Thebby to use up your mandatory 1 game there.

On those last three occasions did anyone have access to this forum or any other forums to bitch and complain about all this?

[Footy Chick]

yes, smart ass

[Demon Juke]

Dont know why everyone is getting so worked up about playing 1 round and then having the easter bye, I can pull up at least 3 other occasions int he last 10 years where its happened and no-one was whinging about it then. Stop having a bitch for the sake of having a bitch.

The only problem which could be encountered is clubs being unable to use grounds because of an April 1 handover with their cricket clubs.

THe cricket season for all cricket comps finish the week before(weekend of the 24 and 25th) with the exception of Hills and grade which finish on March 31. Not every team is going to affected by not being able to use their oval, so it's just as easy to programme in away games for those clubs in round 1.

and then of course there is the use of Thebby to use up your mandatory 1 game there.

Yes most of the clubs will have 5 days to get there oval readfy for football, where do yo suggest all the clubs play there trial games ....at Thebby

[New Era]

Yes most of the clubs will have 5 days to get there oval readfy for football, where do yo suggest all the clubs play there trial games ....at Thebby

So most clubs would normally have 2 probably 3 trial games prior to the start of the season so where have you played them in the past?

[turbo182]

Pretty frustrating that the SAAFL would disregard Grade cricket - the premier cricket comp in the state. We have 5-6 guys who would be aorund the mark for our A grade who may be affected if round 1 starts on the 31st...

Pretty sure district Baseball and a lot of tennis competitions follow similar time-lines.

Some people who say along the line of 'who care, footys the best sport' - naiveity at its best. Facilities, player numbers, and, perhaps most crucially, volunteers who can't be in two places at once! And when some poor bastard breaks his ankle on a cricket pitch (or baseball mound in our case), everyone will be up in arms about the early start!

And FWIW, the idea of playing round 1, then having a bye is ridiculous.

Cheers.

[Q.]

Pretty frustrating that the SAAFL would disregard Grade cricket - the premier cricket comp in the state. We have 5-6 guys who would be aorund the mark for our A grade who may be affected if round 1 starts on the 31st...

Pretty sure district Baseball and a lot of tennis competitions follow similar time-lines.

Some people who say along the line of 'who care, footys the best sport' - naiveity at its best. Facilities, player numbers, and, perhaps most crucially, volunteers who can't be in two places at once! And when some poor bastard breaks his ankle on a cricket pitch (or baseball mound in our case), everyone will be up in arms about the early start!

And FWIW, the idea of playing round 1, then having a bye is ridiculous.

Cheers.

Round 1 is on the same weekend as it was this year!!! How is it an 'early start'?

In 2011, we played Round 1 on the 92nd day of year. If we play Round 1 the week before Easter in 2012, it will fall on the 91st day of the year.

[Footy Chick]

Pretty frustrating that the SAAFL would disregard Grade cricket - the premier cricket comp in the state. We have 5-6 guys who would be aorund the mark for our A grade who may be affected if round 1 starts on the 31st...

Pretty sure district Baseball and a lot of tennis competitions follow similar time-lines.

Some people who say along the line of 'who care, footys the best sport' - naiveity at its best. Facilities, player numbers, and, perhaps most crucially, volunteers who can't be in two places at once! And when some poor bastard breaks his ankle on a cricket pitch (or baseball mound in our case), everyone will be up in arms about the early start!

And FWIW, the idea of playing round 1, then having a bye is ridiculous.

Cheers.

Go and look at previous handbooks - it's happened before!

As for the grade cricketers - it's about 6 people out of the 5000 odd people that actually play - I dare say there would be a lot more understanding if all comps finished that weekend - but they don't.

[Mr Beefy]

For what its worth, the starting dates since 2004:-
Round 1 Easter Sat
03/04/2004 10/04/2004
02/04/2005 26/03/2005
01/04/2006 15/04/2006
14/04/2007 07/04/2007
12/04/2008 22/03/2008
04/04/2009 11/04/2009
10/04/2010 03/04/2010
02/04/2011 23/04/2011

[turbo182]

Pretty frustrating that the SAAFL would disregard Grade cricket - the premier cricket comp in the state. We have 5-6 guys who would be aorund the mark for our A grade who may be affected if round 1 starts on the 31st...

Pretty sure district Baseball and a lot of tennis competitions follow similar time-lines.

Some people who say along the line of 'who care, footys the best sport' - naiveity at its best. Facilities, player numbers, and, perhaps most crucially, volunteers who can't be in two places at once! And when some poor bastard breaks his ankle on a cricket pitch (or baseball mound in our case), everyone will be up in arms about the early start!

And FWIW, the idea of playing round 1, then having a bye is ridiculous.

Cheers.

Go and look at previous handbooks - it's happened before!

As for the grade cricketers - it's about 6 people out of the 5000 odd people that actually play - I dare say there would be a lot more understanding if all comps finished that weekend - but they don't.

6 out of 5000? So you're saying my club is the only one with any grade cricketters who play footy as well? AS Mr beefy shows - earliest start in 9 seasons. You've missed my point anyway - clubs won't have facilties/volunteers for round 1.

Epic tunnel vision from you FC. Most People do other things then Amateur footy.

[turbo182]

Pretty frustrating that the SAAFL would disregard Grade cricket - the premier cricket comp in the state. We have 5-6 guys who would be aorund the mark for our A grade who may be affected if round 1 starts on the 31st...

Pretty sure district Baseball and a lot of tennis competitions follow similar time-lines.

Some people who say along the line of 'who care, footys the best sport' - naiveity at its best. Facilities, player numbers, and, perhaps most crucially, volunteers who can't be in two places at once! And when some poor bastard breaks his ankle on a cricket pitch (or baseball mound in our case), everyone will be up in arms about the early start!

And FWIW, the idea of playing round 1, then having a bye is ridiculous.

Cheers.

Round 1 is on the same weekend as it was this year!!! How is it an 'early start'?

In 2011, we played Round 1 on the 92nd day of year. If we play Round 1 the week before Easter in 2012, it will fall on the 91st day of the year.

The point of that was under-preapred, unsuitable ground being used,.

[Q.]

Pretty frustrating that the SAAFL would disregard Grade cricket - the premier cricket comp in the state. We have 5-6 guys who would be aorund the mark for our A grade who may be affected if round 1 starts on the 31st...

Pretty sure district Baseball and a lot of tennis competitions follow similar time-lines.

Some people who say along the line of 'who care, footys the best sport' - naiveity at its best. Facilities, player numbers, and, perhaps most crucially, volunteers who can't be in two places at once! And when some poor bastard breaks his ankle on a cricket pitch (or baseball mound in our case), everyone will be up in arms about the early start!

And FWIW, the idea of playing round 1, then having a bye is ridiculous.

Cheers.

Round 1 is on the same weekend as it was this year!!! How is it an 'early start'?

In 2011, we played Round 1 on the 92nd day of year. If we play Round 1 the week before Easter in 2012, it will fall on the 91st day of the year.

The point of that was under-preapred, unsuitable ground being used,.

No one was complaining about underprepared or unsuitable grounds this year.

[heater31]

Most grounds that share both sports the winter tenant does not gain control of their facilities until April 1. They hand them back to the summer sports on October 1.

In the SANFL Sturt always play away in round 1 because generally they don't have access to their home ground. On that point is the SANFL and SAAFL starting on the same weekend?

[Footy Chick]

Pretty frustrating that the SAAFL would disregard Grade cricket - the premier cricket comp in the state. We have 5-6 guys who would be aorund the mark for our A grade who may be affected if round 1 starts on the 31st...

Pretty sure district Baseball and a lot of tennis competitions follow similar time-lines.

Some people who say along the line of 'who care, footys the best sport' - naiveity at its best. Facilities, player numbers, and, perhaps most crucially, volunteers who can't be in two places at once! And when some poor bastard breaks his ankle on a cricket pitch (or baseball mound in our case), everyone will be up in arms about the early start!

And FWIW, the idea of playing round 1, then having a bye is ridiculous.

Cheers.

Go and look at previous handbooks - it's happened before!

As for the grade cricketers - it's about 6 people out of the 5000 odd people that actually play - I dare say there would be a lot more understanding if all comps finished that weekend - but they don't.

6 out of 5000? So you're saying my club is the only one with any grade cricketters who play footy as well? AS Mr beefy shows - earliest start in 9 seasons. You've missed my point anyway - clubs won't have facilties/volunteers for round 1.

Epic tunnel vision from you FC. Most People do other things then Amateur footy.

Certainly not, I'm saying that it's the smallest minority that it affects - you can't please all the people all the time - sure, we can start after Easter but then the div 1 clubs would complain about having to play their GF on AFL GF day.

I'm sure any club that has concerns about a POSSIBLE (it's not even set in stone yet) pre April 1 start will contact the SAAFL, if there are enough clubs that it affects, then I guess it will be back to the drawing board, won't it?

[Yardy Lard]

Most grounds that share both sports the winter tenant does not gain control of their facilities until April 1. They hand them back to the summer sports on October 1.

In the SANFL Sturt always play away in round 1 because generally they don't have access to their home ground. On that point is the SANFL and SAAFL starting on the same weekend?

Heater is the only one to add sensible debate to this. It is not about players and how many play etc, etc. It is purely that grounds with cricket on them are owned by the cricket clubs until April 1st and will not be released by councils for football until then. Cricket can not play on grounds until October 1st. What would happen if the SACA or ACTA started programming the first game on the SAAFL grand final? - the only thing that matters here is that clubs can not gain their ovals until April 1st.

And it has never happened before of playing the first round in March, in the last 12 years of playing, which has been demonstrated by Beefy as well.

End of story.

[Footy Chick]

Most grounds that share both sports the winter tenant does not gain control of their facilities until April 1. They hand them back to the summer sports on October 1.

In the SANFL Sturt always play away in round 1 because generally they don't have access to their home ground. On that point is the SANFL and SAAFL starting on the same weekend?

Heater is the only one to add sensible debate to this. It is not about players and how many play etc, etc. It is purely that grounds with cricket on them are owned by the cricket clubs until April 1st and will not be released by councils for football until then. Cricket can not play on grounds until October 1st. What would happen if the SACA or ACTA started programming the first game on the SAAFL grand final? - the only thing that matters here is that clubs can not gain their ovals until April 1st.

And it has never happened before of playing the first round in March, in the last 12 years of playing, which has been demonstrated by Beefy as well.

End of story.

I agree (if you read back that far ) that what I initially said the main problem would be.

[Footy Chick]

For what its worth, the starting dates since 2004:-
Round 1 Easter Sat
03/04/2004 10/04/2004
02/04/2005 26/03/2005
01/04/2006 15/04/2006
14/04/2007 07/04/2007
12/04/2008 22/03/2008
04/04/2009 11/04/2009
10/04/2010 03/04/2010
02/04/2011 23/04/2011

2007 is the example I used as to how it can work, however, what we're missing is that the league would like to see the d2 final as a standalone. Obviously the timing on this one isn't real good for next season though.

[New Era]

the only thing that matters here is that clubs can not gain their ovals until April 1st.

Correct