The Smithfield domino effect...

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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby BFG » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:23 pm

TOSSER wrote:Just heard that Nth Haven going up to Div 5, Ingle Farm up to Div 6 and future of Paralowie uncertain. (Don't exactly know what that last part about Paralowie means).


would love to hear more about paralowie when information comes to light. i thought the news was they had recruited well and were looking ok for this year? have the finance troubles finally caught up with them?
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:15 pm

Jugs wrote:
TOSSER wrote:Just heard that Nth Haven going up to Div 5, Ingle Farm up to Div 6 and future of Paralowie uncertain. (Don't exactly know what that last part about Paralowie means).


Both North Haven and Ingle Farm are proud clubs and should be applauded for stepping up. Just questioning though if it would be in their best interest to do so, with both coming off horrendous seasons and haven't set the recruiting world alight in 2011? Perhaps TOS and Glenunga/Fitzroy would be the better options.

I expect the Farmers will only be marginally better than last year, so staying in Div 6 could make for a long year...again!
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:18 pm

BFG wrote:
TOSSER wrote:Just heard that Nth Haven going up to Div 5, Ingle Farm up to Div 6 and future of Paralowie uncertain. (Don't exactly know what that last part about Paralowie means).


would love to hear more about paralowie when information comes to light. i thought the news was they had recruited well and were looking ok for this year? have the finance troubles finally caught up with them?

Didn't Paralowie recruit Shannon Goldsmith and about 3 or 4 others from Greenacres? They would tear up Div 6. Has this fallen through?
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Boosh » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:45 pm

Jugs wrote:
TOSSER wrote:Just heard that Nth Haven going up to Div 5, Ingle Farm up to Div 6 and future of Paralowie uncertain. (Don't exactly know what that last part about Paralowie means).


Both North Haven and Ingle Farm are proud clubs and should be applauded for stepping up. Just questioning though if it would be in their best interest to do so, with both coming off horrendous seasons and haven't set the recruiting world alight in 2011? Perhaps TOS and Glenunga/Fitzroy would be the better options.


No doubt it is a massive challenge Jugs but I wouldn't describe last year as horrendous and is no way comparable to ingle farms results, with all respect to them. 2009 was horrendous and 2010 wasn't great but we were competitive thoughout the year.

TOS seem to be a club on the up but they have never played at this level so it's hard to say whether they will do well or not.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Boosh » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:45 pm

TOSSER wrote:
valleys07 wrote:
TOSSER wrote:Just heard that Nth Haven going up to Div 5, Ingle Farm up to Div 6 and future of Paralowie uncertain. (Don't exactly know what that last part about Paralowie means).


Where did you hear that tosser?


Heard a couple minutes before I posted. Dont know if it came out of last nights meeting or whether it was only confirmed during the day today. We obviously had a bit of interest in the subject as we were keen to move up if the opportunity arose. Hopefully we can meet Nth Haven in Div 5 next year instead.


I hope for both our sakes thats ture TOSSER :)
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:51 pm

White Line Fever wrote:
Boosh wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:
valleys07 wrote:
Where did you hear that tosser?

I was just about to post that Havens have accepted to go into D5 when tosser put his post up. Dont know about the other stuff but certain about havens.


Can confirm that


hmmm... TDK won't be too impressed

Whilst I don't completely agree with the decision the commitee has made, I accept it and will be ready along with the rest of the playing group to play Div 5 this season. We were setting ourselves for a big year in Div 6 and now we have to shift our mind set onto Div 5 and hopefully the work we've done and been doing during the pre season will help us to have a good year in Div 5.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby superlative steve » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:06 am

hmmm... TDK won't be too impressed[/quote]
Whilst I don't completely agree with the decision the commitee has made, I accept it and will be ready along with the rest of the playing group to play Div 5 this season. We were setting ourselves for a big year in Div 6 and now we have to shift our mind set onto Div 5 and hopefully the work we've done and been doing during the pre season will help us to have a good year in Div 5.[/quote]

What's there to disagree about ????

The club is in the position to move up a division and have a team that will be competetive in Div 5.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby morell » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:19 am

I have to admit to being very surprised by Ingle Farm's decision to stay up in Div 6. Staggered in fact.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby newbloke » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:29 am

Seagull wrote:
zedman wrote:mmmm..

surely you cant pay a player a cent if you have debts..thats called preferential trading and is illegal :)


It is also illegal to trade when 'insolvent' which if you look at the definition, is what this club is trying to do. No problem in trying to trade out of debt, but not by going further into debt to achieve it. Not only that but face up to the creditors, not hide from them and deny any wrongdoings.

Meaning of 'insolvent';
Unable to meet debts or discharge liabilities; bankrupt.
Insufficient to meet all debts, as an estate or fund.
Of or relating to bankrupt persons or entities.

Seagull what is you problem with Paralowie. Im not involved with the club but i do know a few blokes who are. The club is trying its best to pay off the debts with a new committee who have not hid from any debts. AFAIK they have contacted everyone the owe money to and spoken about it.
They are not paying players this season and miught have a certain person who is lookigng after the blokes from Greenacres. Every second post i read from you, you are sticking the boots into them. Im guessing you just want to see another club go under? If you have ties to the club or anything else y dont you own up to it instread of bagging the shit out of them?

Some good people are trying very hard to get out of there situation.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Jabber » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:02 am

Seagull wrote:
zedman wrote:mmmm..

surely you cant pay a player a cent if you have debts..thats called preferential trading and is illegal :)


It is also illegal to trade when 'insolvent' which if you look at the definition, is what this club is trying to do. No problem in trying to trade out of debt, but not by going further into debt to achieve it. Not only that but face up to the creditors, not hide from them and deny any wrongdoings.

Meaning of 'insolvent';
Unable to meet debts or discharge liabilities; bankrupt.
Insufficient to meet all debts, as an estate or fund.
Of or relating to bankrupt persons or entities.


With regards to trading insolvent, plenty of Sports clubs have done in the past, and will do into the future.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby mighty hounds » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:06 am

The Dark Knight wrote:Whilst I don't completely agree with the decision the commitee has made, I accept it and will be ready along with the rest of the playing group to play Div 5 this season. We were setting ourselves for a big year in Div 6 and now we have to shift our mind set onto Div 5 and hopefully the work we've done and been doing during the pre season will help us to have a good year in Div 5.


Dont know why you wouldnt agree. Unless you play football for fun you should be aiming to play as high as ur standard allows. I's be personally disappionted if my club passed up the opportunity to go back up.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Grahaml » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:05 pm

TW Rooster wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Whilst I don't completely agree with the decision the commitee has made, I accept it and will be ready along with the rest of the playing group to play Div 5 this season. We were setting ourselves for a big year in Div 6 and now we have to shift our mind set onto Div 5 and hopefully the work we've done and been doing during the pre season will help us to have a good year in Div 5.


Dont know why you wouldnt agree. Unless you play football for fun you should be aiming to play as high as ur standard allows. I's be personally disappionted if my club passed up the opportunity to go back up.


If you aren't playing for fun and you're in div 5 then what are you doing playing at all?
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby mighty hounds » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:13 pm

Grahaml wrote:
TW Rooster wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Whilst I don't completely agree with the decision the commitee has made, I accept it and will be ready along with the rest of the playing group to play Div 5 this season. We were setting ourselves for a big year in Div 6 and now we have to shift our mind set onto Div 5 and hopefully the work we've done and been doing during the pre season will help us to have a good year in Div 5.


Dont know why you wouldnt agree. Unless you play football for fun you should be aiming to play as high as ur standard allows. I's be personally disappionted if my club passed up the opportunity to go back up.


If you aren't playing for fun and you're in div 5 then what are you doing playing at all?


So Salisbury West will be playing div 5 for fun and not really bothering to go back to div 4?
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:32 pm

Grahaml wrote:
TW Rooster wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Whilst I don't completely agree with the decision the commitee has made, I accept it and will be ready along with the rest of the playing group to play Div 5 this season. We were setting ourselves for a big year in Div 6 and now we have to shift our mind set onto Div 5 and hopefully the work we've done and been doing during the pre season will help us to have a good year in Div 5.


Dont know why you wouldnt agree. Unless you play football for fun you should be aiming to play as high as ur standard allows. I's be personally disappionted if my club passed up the opportunity to go back up.


If you aren't playing for fun and you're in div 5 then what are you doing playing at all?


I think you underestimate the expectations that A Grade teams have placed on them, whether they be in Div 1 or Div 7.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby turk186 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:37 pm

newbloke wrote:
Seagull wrote:
zedman wrote:mmmm..

Seagull what is you problem with Paralowie. Im not involved with the club but i do know a few blokes who are. The club is trying its best to pay off the debts with a new committee who have not hid from any debts. AFAIK they have contacted everyone the owe money to and spoken about it.
They are not paying players this season and miught have a certain person who is lookigng after the blokes from Greenacres. Every second post i read from you, you are sticking the boots into them. Im guessing you just want to see another club go under? If you have ties to the club or anything else y dont you own up to it instread of bagging the **** out of them?

Some good people are trying very hard to get out of there situation.


So does this mean the blokes from Greenies are getting paid and the others are not...dont think I would be very happy if I was one of the "others" :roll:
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby morell » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:52 pm

I don't care how high a level you're playing, if you're not doing it for fun you're playing for different reasons than I and most of the footballers I know are playing for...

.. and ultimately, you wont be successful.

Fun is what I thought is was all about...
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby S Demon » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:07 pm

TW Rooster wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Whilst I don't completely agree with the decision the commitee has made, I accept it and will be ready along with the rest of the playing group to play Div 5 this season. We were setting ourselves for a big year in Div 6 and now we have to shift our mind set onto Div 5 and hopefully the work we've done and been doing during the pre season will help us to have a good year in Div 5.


Dont know why you wouldnt agree. Unless you play football for fun you should be aiming to play as high as ur standard allows. I's be personally disappionted if my club passed up the opportunity to go back up.


What else do you play for? :shock:
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby sprinttospace » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:17 pm

S Demon wrote:
TW Rooster wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Whilst I don't completely agree with the decision the commitee has made, I accept it and will be ready along with the rest of the playing group to play Div 5 this season. We were setting ourselves for a big year in Div 6 and now we have to shift our mind set onto Div 5 and hopefully the work we've done and been doing during the pre season will help us to have a good year in Div 5.


Dont know why you wouldnt agree. Unless you play football for fun you should be aiming to play as high as ur standard allows. I's be personally disappionted if my club passed up the opportunity to go back up.


What else do you play for? :shock:


SD - he's a very serious footballer these days since leaving the saafl :)

TW - there is a lot more to it than just taking up the offer. It is late february not late october, 5ish weeks to rd 1, plans are in place for the div you're set to play in, recruiting plays a part, does the coaching group think that the playing group will handle going back to the previous division, and probably a whole range of considerations. Imagine for a moment you say yes and you win the same number of games with essentailly the same playing list, in my view you've gained nothing other than being relegated again. That wouls hurt more than consolidating in the lower div for at least a year.

Even though i'm not on the committee at BOS i was considering what i would recommend if (a) i was part of the committee and (b) if the club was given the chance if nth haven didn't take it.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby The Riddler » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:21 pm

sprinttospace wrote:SD - he's a very serious footballer these days since leaving the saafl :)

TW - there is a lot more to it than just taking up the offer. It is late february not late october, 5ish weeks to rd 1, plans are in place for the div you're set to play in, recruiting plays a part, does the coaching group think that the playing group will handle going back to the previous division, and probably a whole range of considerations. Imagine for a moment you say yes and you win the same number of games with essentailly the same playing list, in my view you've gained nothing other than being relegated again. That wouls hurt more than consolidating in the lower div for at least a year.

Even though i'm not on the committee at BOS i was considering what i would recommend if (a) i was part of the committee and (b) if the club was given the chance if nth haven didn't take it.

And what did you come up with sprint?
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby The Riddler » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:22 pm

morell wrote:I have to admit to being very surprised by Ingle Farm's decision to stay up in Div 6. Staggered in fact.

ditto
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