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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby The Bartman » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:08 am

dee man wrote:happy to announce the first trial to be organised this season will be against hope valley c grade.
am rapt that a quality club,that is well coached in all grades,are well respected and play footy for all the right reasons have gone out of their way to help us in our rebuilding,not only by the trial but in other areas as well.from me to the whole club thankyou.
we will be the curtain raiser to the hope valley vs greenacres A and B grade trial and i expect all players and supporters to come along and support not only the cats but give back alot to the demons over the bar and thru the canteen as well as some support for what they have done for us.
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Sounds good Dee Man. Probably would of had a run except I'm away that weekend. I rekon I played against a couple of sides you coached going back a few years now??
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby Sheik Yerbouti » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:28 pm

& on the important issues, NG, are you raising a quid for the club by opening the barby on a Saturday morning for the school footy.
They were pretty good damn fine cook ups on those cool frosty morns.
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby BenchedEagle » Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:19 pm

Demon Juke wrote:
duncs wrote:
dee man wrote:happy to announce the first trial to be organised this season will be against hope valley c grade.
am rapt that a quality club,that is well coached in all grades,are well respected and play footy for all the right reasons have gone out of their way to help us in our rebuilding,not only by the trial but in other areas as well.from me to the whole club thankyou.
we will be the curtain raiser to the hope valley vs greenacres A and B grade trial and i expect all players and supporters to come along and support not only the cats but give back alot to the demons over the bar and thru the canteen as well as some support for what they have done for us.
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keep a check on their guy that sweeps across half back, forgotten his name. A very very good C grade player.


He was sweeping across half back duncs, he was standing you! :

I dont even remember what position i was supposed to play that day :p I swear on the Koran ill never drink all night on a friday night and attempt to 'play' football on the Saturday :p
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby dee man » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:40 am

good night on the track with good numbers again for us.
good to see several new faces and some old boys back on the track for the first time.
things slowly building momentum but the best thing is the buzz that the new boys have brought to the club.
the club has been down for a few years now and it is great to see that the place is full of hope and enthusiasm.
along way off on the skill level but nothing hard work wont fix
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby morell » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:29 pm

Any chance of fielding two sides and slotting into Divvy 7 dee man?
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby dee man » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:51 pm

morell wrote:Any chance of fielding two sides and slotting into Divvy 7 dee man?

no mate
we are just trying to consolidate the club and be able tp preform at the best level we can
as long as head office dont stuff it like last year and put us in an uneven playing field we should come out this season strong and look at building up next season
hope all is well down at the den
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby bandar » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:20 pm

Looking at it Deeman you're going to be at the leagues mercy while you are a 1 team club because they will just use you to fill gaps.
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby dee man » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:36 pm

bandar wrote:Looking at it Deeman you're going to be at the leagues mercy while you are a 1 team club because they will just use you to fill gaps.

and thats what happened in the past
putting a small club in c1 against teams with unlimited resources was plain stupid and short sighted
we are not looking for handouts or special treatment,just an even playing field
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby bandar » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:50 pm

But they will always fill the grades from the top and it's difficult for them to know every clubs position with regards players the previous time you were in C2 you won the flag and they would have worked off that.
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:53 pm

bandar wrote:But they will always fill the grades from the top and it's difficult for them to know every clubs position with regards players the previous time you were in C2 you won the flag and they would have worked off that.


Yeah but thats just stupid, everyone knows they only won the C2 flag because the premiership side from Gepps Cross went there following Chris Newman, and the following year p!ssed off to Wingfield, then moved on again to what was it? North Pines?

Doesnt take a genious to see that the clubs they have visited and left are all a rabble now, and its even more unfair to think that a club that recieve that one year influx of players for instant success are going to be able to step up a grade after they have all left!
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:55 pm

if anything, Ovies is a CLEAR indication that the exec needs to have their fingers on the pulse more, need to be more hands on with the league and get around and find out whats going on around the place.

FFS you can jump on these threads and find out just about everything from every club! I can guarantee you that start of last year, 90% of the SAAFL community wouldve known or assumed that Ovingham where in some strife and would struggle and would be out of their depth.
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby bandar » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:07 pm

See where you coming from but all promotion and relegation is done on previous seasons results whether 20 blokes walk in to your club or 20 blokes walk out. In a unique set of events the league had to work from 2 seasons and decided Ovies were better placed to deal with C1 than Wingies and they were probably right. The league will always try and fill the higher C grades first.

Sometimes you have take what comes remembering I'm from a club that came bottom in C2 last year and are now off to C1.

The real point I was trying to make is while you are a 1 team club you have no control over where you are put not saying it's right just saying it's where you are at.
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby finn » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:06 am

bandar wrote:See where you coming from but all promotion and relegation is done on previous seasons results whether 20 blokes walk in to your club or 20 blokes walk out. In a unique set of events the league had to work from 2 seasons and decided Ovies were better placed to deal with C1 than Wingies and they were probably right. The league will always try and fill the higher C grades first.

Sometimes you have take what comes remembering I'm from a club that came bottom in C2 last year and are now off to C1.

The real point I was trying to make is while you are a 1 team club you have no control over where you are put not saying it's right just saying it's where you are at.


one side clubs should be in c1 first so that the step up to div 7 is not quite so extreme as from c5 or lower and the saafl is right in placing them first there. the league should cater for all teams but rightly places more emphasis on those clubs with multiple teams as these form the vast majority of the league and as a small body there's only so much it can do.

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bandar wrote:Looking at it Deeman you're going to be at the leagues mercy while you are a 1 team club because they will just use you to fill gaps.

and thats what happened in the past
putting a small club in c1 against teams with unlimited resources was plain stupid and short sighted
we are not looking for handouts or special treatment,just an even playing field


teams with unlimited resources? or clubs that have continously worked hard to ensure that they have enough players and resources to field three (minimum) teams?

i hope ovingham continue to exist but i'd like them to exist as a two team club and don't believe that playing in c5 or c6 can go any way towards achieving this goal.
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby Bigshow82 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:36 am

I dont remember reading anywhere that Ovingham have asked be be put in C5 or C6? Lets be honest here, when clubs go down to only having 1 team its because they have normally lost a heap of there A grade players and then the ones that had not already left will once they realise they will be playing in a C grade comp. To then expect players that may have only played div 7R at best to come up against blokes that have either played Div 1R or perhaps pushing for Div 1R seems ridiculous. Once a club like Ovies can re-establish themselves I would think that the year they look at going back to being a 2 team club they would need/want to recruit more genuine A grade players to be competitive in Div 7. All that I have heard from the guys at Ovies on here is that they would like to be put in a grade that they can be competitive. Whether that be any where from C2 down to C4 or maybe even C5 (there where some decent teams running around in C5 last season) lets just hope they get given the chance to be competitive so the club has a chance to rebuild.

I base my comments on reasons why clubs go down to 1 team and the standard of players a 1 team club gets on what happened to Nth Pines last year. I may be well of the ball in making comparisons between Ovies & Nth Pines but thats just my opinion.
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby D14 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:41 am

Bigshow82 wrote:I dont remember reading anywhere that Ovingham have asked be be put in C5 or C6? Lets be honest here, when clubs go down to only having 1 team its because they have normally lost a heap of there A grade players and then the ones that had not already left will once they realise they will be playing in a C grade comp. To then expect players that may have only played div 7R at best to come up against blokes that have either played Div 1R or perhaps pushing for Div 1R seems ridiculous. Once a club like Ovies can re-establish themselves I would think that the year they look at going back to being a 2 team club they would need/want to recruit more genuine A grade players to be competitive in Div 7. All that I have heard from the guys at Ovies on here is that they would like to be put in a grade that they can be competitive. Whether that be any where from C2 down to C4 or maybe even C5 (there where some decent teams running around in C5 last season) lets just hope they get given the chance to be competitive so the club has a chance to rebuild.

I base my comments on reasons why clubs go down to 1 team and the standard of players a 1 team club gets on what happened to Nth Pines last year. I may be well of the ball in making comparisons between Ovies & Nth Pines but thats just my opinion.



I know its only a trial (players unavailable etc) but you will get some sort of indication of where Ovies are at when they play Hope Valleys C's (C5) in a trial match.
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby dee man » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:05 pm

teams with unlimited resources? or clubs that have continously worked hard to ensure that they have enough players and resources to field three (minimum) teams?

i hope ovingham continue to exist but i'd like them to exist as a two team club and don't believe that playing in c5 or c6 can go any way towards achieving this goal.[/quote]
with unlimited resources it meant man power and not finances ect
some clubs really work hard at club level and i understand that but in alot of cases clubs have the ability to field three teams easily because of location and the success of their a grade sides.im not complaining about that in any way.
but in our situation we are rebuilding from the fact the club has been raped and pillaged both internally and externally in a number of areas and the fact that some local bigger clubs want us to fold so they can have the ground.
we will rebuild and get stronger but it will take time and effort and once again we only asked to be placed accordingly,not where the club was several years ago
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby rockstar » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:32 am

wouldnt under estimate ovies this year by a long way!!
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby dee man » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:54 pm

another good turn up last night boys with a great meal after
good to see a couple of kilburn lads down training with us as well
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby dee man » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:12 pm

Seagull wrote:
dee man wrote:another good turn up last night boys with a great meal after
good to see a couple of kilburn lads down training with us as well[/quote]



I reckon it would be wise to keep that quiet, you'll have Foxy on the doorstep. The numbers at Kilburn are at an all time low my informer tells me even with a new coach.

you are right on one hand but it shows that their are people looking at us and i know for a fact that with a couple of clubs in the area that have been struggling for numbers to fill three teams that players are waiting to see how we would go before coming to us.
and lets be honest,for to long some clubs have sat on their behinds and taken their players for granted believing that money cures all,well it doesnt,and if things like this make clubs work harder to keep their players well the whole league benifits
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Re: Ovingham FC

Postby dee man » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:50 pm

we are looking for trial match on the 19th of march so any c grade teams looking for a hit out,maybe as acurtain raiser before their a grade and b grade teams please PM me
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